Opioids Trying to stay out of withdrawal from a massive Hydromorphone binge..

[rld73]

So.. like an idiot.. when I got my script of 180 Hydromorphones last week I went on a bender and did almost all of them with my wife. She is going on Suboxone tomorrow so we just kept doing them and doing them thinking it was going to be "fun week" because it was her last big hurrah..

Anyway.. now tomorrow she will be in the clear because she will have the subs and won't need to be banging opiates to stay out of withdrawal.. I on the other hand.. have a bottle of about 60 Opana 40 mg tablets that I have figured out are impossible to inject safely.. and I am not about to start injecting this goo crap that they turn into if you try to prep them for injection. These are the new formulation that are impossible to crush/snort as well.

So I guess my question is this.. I need to stay out of withdrawal for about 2 and a half weeks until I go back to see my pain doc.. what are your suggestions.. I will list all the stuff I have at my disposal below..

Opana 40 Mg tablets - 56 pills
Hydroxyzine 50 Mg Tablets - 17 pills
Sertraline (Xoloft) 50 Mg Tablets - 22 pills
Cymbatla 60 Mg Tablets - 30 caps
Cymbalta 30 Mg Tablets - 5 caps
Diclofenac (NSAID Pain Reliever) 75 Mg Tablets - 50 pills
Lyrica 100 Mg Tablets - 78 caps
Lyrica 150 Mg Tablets - 48 caps
Promethazine 25 Mg Tablets - 33 pills
Gabapentin 300 Mg Tablets - 26 caps
Baclofen 10 Mg Tablets - 43 pills
Fexmid 7.5 Mg Tablets - 21 pills
Flexeril 5 Mg Tablets - 25 pills
Flexeril 10 Mg Tablets - 26 pills
Topiramate 25 Mg Tablets - 34 pills
Ropinirole HCL 1mg Tablets - 37 pills
Alprazolam 2 Mg Tablets - 4 pills
Alprazolam 1 Mg Tablets - 76 pills
Lomotil .025/2.5 Mg Tablets - 22 pills

I also can get any OTC Meds that you guys think I might need.. I have some Immodium AD and plenty of Aleve and other NSAID's. I don't have or know of any way to get Kratom.. which I hear is a wonder drug as far as W/D is concerned.

Now I know that a good bit of this stuff is useful to help keep withdrawals at bay.. and I think that if I take the Opana orally that it will help.. but I know that I need some time for my tolerance to get back to a normal level.

I am hoping that someone on here might have some experience with these medications and can give me some advice as to what to take in order to keep myself comfortable.. and also to avoid going and doing something stupid/illegal in order to get more Hydromorphone..

Thanks in advance for any help!


*Mods* If this thread is in the wrong place.. I apologize in advance.. feel free to move it to a more suitable forum. Thanks!

 

[rld73]

Oh I forgot.. I also have about 30 - 50 mg Tramadol.. I have found them to be kinda useless as far as W/D goes in the past.. but you never know.. Someone might have an idea that would incorporate those into my dosing regiment that could help.. so I figured I would mention it.

 

[rld73]

Wow 113 views and no one has any idea? Will the Opana be enough on it's own maybe?

I took some Opana and feel alright.. but I did shoot up a Dilaudid around 10 am too.. not sure if I should be in W/D by now or not.. I usually do a shot every couple hours.. I guess maybe the Opana is helping more than I thought it would?

 

[aguythatlikessmoke]

This is difficult. Why dont you just wait and see how your withdrawal goes the first day without any meds??? Why not just try cold turkey for the first day or two?
and then why don't you try to dose 1 mg of xanax throughout the day for a couple of days max 7 days you dont want to get addicted to benzos. Besides Kratom does do wonders why dont you try and find some that would be the best bet.:D You could also try the Gabapentin to ease withdrawal. Lyrica as well but dont mix alprazolam lyrica or gabapentin just use one at a time.

 

[aguythatlikessmoke]

Drugs are bad most of all why did you go through so many hydrocodones???
shit withdrawals I suck at giving advice. This is the best I could do as I never had a problem with opiates. Bummer Could you help me with Amphetamine cravings??? like I dont have a physical addiction but I get Amphetamine cravings and occasional cocaine cravings what can I do to avoid?

 

[rld73]

This is difficult. Why dont you just wait and see how your withdrawal goes the first day without any meds??? Why not just try cold turkey for the first day or two?
and then why don't you try to dose 1 mg of xanax throughout the day for a couple of days max 7 days you dont want to get addicted to benzos. Besides Kratom does do wonders why dont you try and find some that would be the best bet.:D You could also try the Gabapentin to ease withdrawal. Lyrica as well but dont mix alprazolam lyrica or gabapentin just use one at a time.

In the past when I have ran out of Dilaudid the withdrawals have been horrible.. like really bad.. I usually have ended up going and buying more from someone but I really would like to stay out of jail and they are cracking down on that stuff big time right now.. so I am not looking to do that.

I am prescribed 3mg per day of the Alprazolam and have been for about 10 years.. it is for my IBS. It does wonders as far as helping regulate me on that particular disease.. I guess I am probably addicted to it already.. but after taking it for 10 years so far.. why not if it helps stave off the Dilaudid withdrawals eh..

Where do you find Kratom at? I know sourcing on this site is a no-no and I am not asking a specific question about where to get it.. but can you get it at your local drug store?? Or is that something that has to be ordered?? I am not sure I want to go spending money on ordering something on the internet without knowing which site is the good one and which ones are the scammers.. I guess I would have to do some research on my own to figure that out if it isn't something I can pick up at my local CVS.

 

[rld73]

Drugs are bad most of all why did you go through so many hydrocodones???
shit withdrawals I suck at giving advice. This is the best I could do as I never had a problem with opiates. Bummer Could you help me with Amphetamine cravings??? like I dont have a physical addiction but I get Amphetamine cravings and occasional cocaine cravings what can I do to avoid?

Why did I go through so many Dillies?? Why do we druggies do anything we do.. it sounded fun at the time and I didn't keep up with how many I was going through.. I have a feeling my wife was taking more to work than she was supposed to as well.. who knows how stuff goes so fast.. it just happens lol.

As far as your Amphetamine cravings go.. I hate to suggest a benzo.. but Xanax does wonders for me as far as cravings go.. I have been taking it forever tho.

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

Dude, you have a shit load of pills... with all of that at your disposal there are 1000 ways you could avoid getting sick...

The oxymorphone alone is plenty.. ha. You basically have your own fucking pharmacy. Shouldn't be too hard for you..

 

[rld73]

Dude, you have a shit load of pills... with all of that at your disposal there are 1000 ways you could avoid getting sick...

The oxymorphone alone is plenty.. ha. You basically have your own fucking pharmacy. Shouldn't be too hard for you..

Yea I get ya.. I just want to make sure I don't mix shit that I shouldn't I guess.. For now the Opana seems to be doing ok.. I just didn't know how going from shooting up 24/7 to taking a pill orally was going to do me. I will say tho.. I have only taken 2 of the Opana's today and I am doing pretty good.. I did shoot a dillie around 10 am tho so I am a little worried.. I am getting less and less worried as time goes on tho. I do have a couple dillies left over that I am trying to save for right before I go back to the doc (gotta have it in my system in case he wants me to piss)

If nothing else.. this will be a nice vacation for my veins.. seems like I have been shooting up every day for the last 6 or 7 months heh.. every since the doc took me off Oxycodone and moved me over to Dilaudid.

 

[shreddedlettuce]

Dude, you have a shit load of pills... with all of that at your disposal there are 1000 ways you could avoid getting sick...

The oxymorphone alone is plenty.. ha. You basically have your own fucking pharmacy. Shouldn't be too hard for you..

Was waiting for someone to say it like it is.

 

[Mass08]

Seriously this is like borderline trolling lol...you have enough shit to keep all of BL free from withdrawals dude. I cant take this seriously...you have oxymorphone...lyrica...gabapentin....xanax...like wtf? 56 Opanas? Dude your gonna be fuckin fine

 

[rld73]

Seriously this is like borderline trolling lol...you have enough shit to keep all of BL free from withdrawals dude. I cant take this seriously...you have oxymorphone...lyrica...gabapentin....xanax...like wtf? 56 Opanas? Dude your gonna be fuckin fine

I am definitely not trolling.. I was worried about going from shooting up to orally.. was pretty freaked out when I tried to figure out how to bang these Opana's and found out it was impossible.

I did read something a little while ago about "crisping" them.. not sure how safe that is tho.

Like I said earlier in the thread.. I know I have alot of stuff that can help.. I am just not sure what is safe to take together and was thinking that someone might have some advice as to what I could use.. this is a Harm Reduction site.. right?

 

[rld73]

The reason I have all these pills is because I have had 2 back surgeries and countless injections.. and am probably headed to another back surgery..

The Lyrica and Gabapentin was supposed to help for the leg pain from the pinched nerve.. didn't do shit tho..

The muscle relaxers are from right after my last surgery I was getting bad leg cramps..

Cymbalta was supposed to be for nerve pain.. didn't do shit once again.. same with the Xoloft..

I just didn't throw these pills away.. never know when you are going to need them heh.

 

[Opanaking]

The xanax your taking is already making the opana stronger. That with promethazine should make it a lot stronger. Look at this as a good opportunity to lower your tolerance. Just take as few opana as possible. Then when you get your next script dont take large amounts of dilauladid just because you have it at your disposal. Save them for when you really need them and make it last. If you get in the habit of doing this every month you'll run into problems eventually and possibly loose your scripts. Kratom works good also and can be found on the internet with little effort.

 

[ReversiblePulpitis]

Is your wife going on subs for good?
If so, I don't know how her suboxone treatment is going to go next month - year - decade -death after you get your next dil script. Going to take a role on your relationship too I suppose. She'll be bored, you'll be high. She will relapse.
Stop taking that shit for granted, obviously youre a CPP - but for whatever reason (there a million) what happens when you they cut you off? Plus, if you ever have acute emergency pain, no amount of IV meds at the hospital are going to take care of you.
Sorry for the lecture bro.

Yes, baking the Opana (following shaving down via very fine cheese grater, ped egg, or dremmel tool) at approx 450 for 8-15 min until deep dark golden brown, then stuck in freezer until dish is cool and the opana is chilled back to a state where it's basically frozen (since it will be goo out of the oven), and then chopped again with a razor and snorted, retaining pieces in the nasal passageways (and if you do it right, you will have a brown liquid bitter drip out your nose, will elicit near IR affects. The heat melts away the time release to an effective degree and does work. Ive done it 2-3 dozen times now.

otherwise, make sure your pharmacist orders the new Impax (Global) Pharma Generic Oxymorph ER before your next fill date. They started shipping Jan 4th and have already hit some pharmacy shelves. At least one BL'er has reported using them. THey are made of the ORIGINAL opana formula, and you know what that means.

But down the needle dude. You're a legit CPP - dont jeopardize yourself.

 

[rld73]

Is your wife going on subs for good?
If so, I don't know how her suboxone treatment is going to go next month - year - decade -death after you get your next dil script. Going to take a role on your relationship too I suppose. She'll be bored, you'll be high. She will relapse.
Stop taking that shit for granted, obviously youre a CPP - but for whatever reason (there a million) what happens when you they cut you off? Plus, if you ever have acute emergency pain, no amount of IV meds at the hospital are going to take care of you.
Sorry for the lecture bro.

Yes, baking the Opana (following shaving down via very fine cheese grater, ped egg, or dremmel tool) at approx 450 for 8-15 min until deep dark golden brown, then stuck in freezer until dish is cool and the opana is chilled back to a state where it's basically frozen (since it will be goo out of the oven), and then chopped again with a razor and snorted, retaining pieces in the nasal passageways (and if you do it right, you will have a brown liquid bitter drip out your nose, will elicit near IR affects. The heat melts away the time release to an effective degree and does work. Ive done it 2-3 dozen times now.

otherwise, make sure your pharmacist orders the new Impax (Global) Pharma Generic Oxymorph ER before your next fill date. They started shipping Jan 4th and have already hit some pharmacy shelves. At least one BL'er has reported using them. THey are made of the ORIGINAL opana formula, and you know what that means.

But down the needle dude. You're a legit CPP - dont jeopardize yourself.

This is great advice..

The whole point of my wife going on Suboxone is because she has been taking more of my medicine than I have eh.. She is tired of it running her life and asked me to make her an appointment to go on the subs.. We just went a little nuts this last week or 2 with the dillies because we had them and knew she wasn't going to be able to take them anymore. Usually we can make it through a month with my meds alone.. I am glad that she want's out tho.. I have another surgery coming up and she isn't going to be able to be taking my meds afterwards because I am going to really need them big time.

I had nothing to do with a needle or even snorting pills until the whole war on Oxycodone made it to where my doc wouldn't prescribe them anymore and went the Dilaudid/Opana route.. Dilaudid is garbage orally.. it didn't kill my pain at all.. I tried it nasally.. and that didn't work either. 8 months ago I had never used a needle before in my life.. now I can't imagine life without it.

I am still doing ok on the Opana orally tho.. and it has been 12 hours since my last shot and I have only taken 2 40 Mg Opana's. I think I will take another one before bed tho so I don't wake up sick.

If this does work and I can get through this month with just using the Opana orally and not have any problems then I might just ask my doc to go with Opana IR and ER and not use the needle anymore at all.. Dilaudid is the only reason I ever used a needle and maybe if I cut that from my pain regiment then I won't need it anymore.

 

[ReversiblePulpitis]

Good idea, for both you and your wife (getting off Dilaudid since that was her DOC assumingly).

Yes, use the motivation of your surgery to back off, you may get uncomfortable at times, but time to pay the piper -- and if you think that a little withdrawal pain is bad, wait til even the hospital cant control your post op pain after they cut into your spine, seriously.

If the OPANA is holding you now orally, the new Generic from Global will work even better as that new forumla should totally do the trick.

I'm a CPP as well -- and I've tried to go off before too.... it always SOUNDS like a great idea, and yet she really really may be ready, but with your constant supply - she probably hasnt hit the rock bottom that truly elicits a committment to change. since youre the CPP and shes the addict, she has some great manipulation skills by now. DOnt let her fool herself or you.

May be a good time to take a break from the pills as well, a medium that neither you nor here can abuse as easily. Fentanyl patches. Your doc won't let you switch to a non-equivalent dose, request a patch change every 48 hrs. I went from Opana/Dilaudid (same combo) to patches rather seemlessly, and I LOVE them. I use Sandoz (non gel), made by Janssen, the makers of the brand Duragesic. They contain 60% more fentanyl than most of the others that Im aware of (including the gel), and as a result, creates a MUCH larger concentration gradient difference b/w subdermal adipose tissue and the patch itself, eliciting what I consider a dose dump and a much stronger much more efficient delivery of fentanyl. I detect euphoria and mood lift for the first 24 hours, but as the euphoria fades for the next 24, the mood lift and energy remain -- only to to be time to apply the next patch.
You can retain a breakthru med, but with just 15 patches (and thats all you need) to get yu thru the month -- theres no room for abuse without sickness.


good luck

 

[Mass08]

Hey man I wasn't trying to say your a troll by any means....just saying with the stockpile of pills you have you really shouldn't be worried about WD at all. I see your concern about coming from the needle but you won't even withdraw at all with the opanas you have. Anyway good luck, stop abusing your pain meds! Like someone posted above me being a CPP is a privilege (and I guess a curse?) but you certainly dont want to jeopardize it. Good luck.

 

[Hobble]

Just a heads up, don't shoot those new round plastic Opana's. Health officials have announced that shooting them causes a rare condition that can be fatal:

"As if abusing painkillers weren't already dangerous enough. Despite a new version of Opana ER being released last February, designed to be harder to abuse, Tennessee health officials are reporting cases of a rare blood-clotting problem among people who injected the drug after crushing the pills (which are meant to be taken orally). Only about one in 100,000 people generally develop thrombotic thrombocytopenic purpura (TTP), a disorder that causes clots to form in small blood vessels around the body. But 15 cases were reported in the state between last August to October—and all were linked to intravenous drug abuse, with 14 of the 15 related to Opana."

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/660089-Abuse-of-New-Opana-Pill-Causes-Blood-Clots

http://www.thefix.com/content/opana-blood-clotting91133

 

[ReversiblePulpitis]

Just a heads up, don't shoot those new round plastic Opana's. Health officials have announced that shooting them causes a rare condition that can be fatal:

"As if abusing painkillers weren't already dangerous enough. Despite a new version of Opana ER being released last February, designed to be harder to abuse, Tennessee health officials are reporting cases of a rare blood-clotting problem among people who injected the drug after crushing the pills (which are meant to be taken orally). Only about one in 100,000 people generally develop thrombotic thrombocytopenic purpura (TTP), a disorder that causes clots to form in small blood vessels around the body. But 15 cases were reported in the state between last August to October—and all were linked to intravenous drug abuse, with 14 of the 15 related to Opana."

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/660089-Abuse-of-New-Opana-Pill-Causes-Blood-Clots

http://www.thefix.com/content/opana-blood-clotting91133

Very true Hobble, an obscure fact that folks need to know that goes along with the already existing dangers of shooting any pill intravenously. Bad enough that fillers can create aggregated plaques on vessel walls, as well as aggregate in the tiny vessels of the lungs and kidneys. Worse yet, fillers blocking blood flow to the brain or heart an causing ischemia and death. Then to TOP it off if that doesn't happen, or in conjunction, develop TTP: which unfortunately was INCORRECTLY defined by your quoted source. TTP actually is responsible for the loss of platelets, leading to bleeding that cannot be clotted. So, when those fillers stretch out an arterial wall enough to burst and your TTP doesn't allow the blood to clot, you're fucked.