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Benzos Trying to quit Klonopin - can I cold turkey or do I need to taper? I feel so lost...

Ifeel4U said:
Hey guys... I just started to take klonopins... I have a bad comedown from Mdma for the last 5 weeks.. Still going through it mental wise(brain still foggy/cloud) which the Klonopin eliminates so i wonder if it the pain it anxeity based?

The (first week)first day i took .5mg second day .25mg, 3rd day .5, 4th .25,5th day .25mg... Then i stopped for a week...

I know people build a tolorence and bc addicted.. So i stop or a week

Last night i took .5 at 7pm and went out had 1 drink... Then went to bed

My question is will I go through withdrawls for the amount i have taken? And is a tapper nessesary at this point? I know it not alot however, i want to be save and not become dependent on klonopin or build a tolerance .. I dont want to be on this for month/years

Any help or advice?!
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You should be fine. If thats all you took, you're golden pony boy.....lol :)
 
Yeah man I agree, only a few days at those dosages, I think your fine bro. Don't get carried away though, some folks really got a thing for the benzos, good luck :)
Damn man haven't done e's in a long time. That used to be some teeth grinding, leg rocking fun man!!! Gonna have to expand my horizons lol
 
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Everybodys different n has different experiences. But for me n the vast majority of ppl i know (btw where i live everyones on drugs, seriously) thats not that big of a problem. Xanax i understand but klonopin i cant even get high on or feel the effects of period. Ive taken 10-15 at a time &couldnt tell. Even w/xanax thats not a lot to take in a day for me. I took 46 in 1day (30 .5mg & 16 1mg). If u really wanna stop takin them talk to ur doc about taperin off but i really dont think ur in danger. I was prescribed xanax & klonopin when i was 17 then xanax again when i was 19 both times i was on them "officially" for 8mnths-1yr (.5mg & 1mg xanax 3xs a day both times) plus i was buyin them on the streets cuz my whole script wld be gone in 2-3days. Talk to ur doc or taper down on ur own ur not gonna die. Also, my mom was prescribed xanax for almost 6yrs when she was cut off from the doc it was sudden but she was fine nothin really happened she withdrawled from opiates waaay worse physically.
 
Hey,

I am prescribed 2 mg of clonazepam 3 times a day, ive been trough withdrawal several times and it really is horrendous, definatly avoid alcohol during withdrawal, i started drinking once, 3 bottles of 8% 2 liter cider bottles a day, after several days alcohol started inducing a toxic reaction it was like every sip of alcohol in my body caused a extremely painfull toxic reaction, i also couldnt stop drinking as this induced a withdrawal that was ten times worse.

What worked for me was switching to etizolam i noticed after 2 days i basicly woke up hours after etizolam wears off wich was suprising and was able to abrubtly stop.
 
Hi everyone,

I just want to say thank you so much for all your replies....I've been reading them all over the last week and I'm really touched by all the great replies I've gotten....so far, I've been able to keep my daily benzo intake at .5 mg....I think for now, I'll have to keep it there until I can find a good professional to talk to...thanks MeDieVil for the tip about not drinking...(I thought at first the alcohol would be calming but it seems to cause a much more toxic reaction than usual for me too.)
 
Lorne??? said:
I was, and still am concerned though, that this is a situation that will quickly escalate back into abuse. But then what can we really do about that over the net?
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Thank you Lorne, I have to say that's what I'm most afraid of too...I've tried to kick my benzo habit before and then come a few bad days, and suddenly I'll find myself right back at abuse levels again...

Sorry to hear you're dealing with withdrawal too...I hope you're doing better
 
Lorne??? said:
Did anyone read her post? She's already went cold turkey for 5 days, clearly she is not going to die.

Benzodiazepine dependence is serious, but come on guys, some of you are fucking going overboard. Perhaps y'all need some Xanax?

A taper is the best plan, BUT after 5 days you're tolerance will be pretty low. If you did taper at this point, you'd need to start low. I'd say 0.5mg clonazepam per day.
I found clonazepam easier to manage than alrazolam, lorazepam is a good benzo for these purposes as well, as it's slow and long acting.

The fact you went 5 days if you're own accord is a great accomplishment, and a good sign. Starting a 90 day taper when you're that close to a clean break is insane. Unless you find you simply cannot function without a REASONABLE dose of benzodiazepines, you're probably best staying the course, while keeping a "rescue dose" on hand.
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You're the best, Lorne. Was going to say something very similar as I kept reading and BAM you said it all. So glad you are getting clean-- a huge step! Now, just try to stay off them because you probably will not feel very good for at least another week, maybe two more, then lesser symptoms will continue. If you feel like you cannot take it, get an appointment, explain your problem, and plan a valium taper after you switch your script to it.
 
edaisycake said:
Thank you Lorne, I have to say that's what I'm most afraid of too...I've tried to kick my benzo habit before and then come a few bad days, and suddenly I'll find myself right back at abuse levels again...

Sorry to hear you're dealing with withdrawal too...I hope you're doing better
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And, you're a step ahead of me, good for you! I am glad you are doing this-- oh the horrors of benzo withdrawal. I was on two monthly scripts of xanax-- xr and ir a month-- its a bitch, but I tapered and here I am :) you can do it. I tapered with xanax but... whatever.
 
I wish you all the best with this. Benzos are so very useful but have to be respected. I have an rx for klonopin given to me for when I was coming off subs-for the RLS. I continue with some RLS here and there. I am amazed by the half life of this drug. I had a friend who could not get off these, got down to 1/8 I believe of a pill and still could not get past that. She is still on them years later. I think she had deep underlying psych issues. Lesson is, these drugs deserve our respect and I can see others agree. Great posts.
 
I'm hooked on Klons too and im seeing my dr about a diazapam taper Friday..DO NOT COLD TURKEY THIS SHIT.
It's not like opiates. You can't super man your way outa this one. I know it feels desperate. Please come to terms with the fact that you need this drug even though you dont want it. Slowly..SLOWLY get off this shit and never look back.
 
edaisycake said:
I'm really feeling very lost and desperate sitting here at 9 in the morning after another sleepless night and I feel way too ashamed to talk to my bf or any of my friends about the extent of my benzo problems so I'd really value any feedback you guys have.

11 months ago, I first started taking xanax recreationally. At first, I'd take just .5 mg or .25 mg a couple of times a week but soon (I'd say within a month), I was taking anywhere from .5 to 3 mg a day.

Then last fall, I decided that the xanax my bf supplied wasn't enough, so I went to my doctor and got a prescription for more benzos. Over the last 8 months, I've tried Ativan, Xanax and Klonopin and I'm currently being prescribed 1 mg Klonopin daily. This is only what I've officially been prescribed. The reality is that there are days where I'll take a lot more than 1 mg and there are days where I won't take any Klonopin at all but my best guess is that I averaged about 1 mg Klonopin a day for the last 6 months and before that, I've taken at least .5 -1 mg of Xanax almost every day.

Problem is, in addition to the Klonopin, I've also been regularly supplementing with Xanax bars. Usually, I'll just take a .5 or 1 mg of extra Xanax but there have been days where I've taken 10 mg of Xanax (or more.)

I've recently realized how much of a problem this is as I'm almost always numb and have pretty much come to rely on it for sleep. So for the last 5 days, I've tried to go cold turkey and I don't know if it's more psychological or not, but I feel so goddamn awful!! Food tastes absolutely horrendous to me and if I even try to eat, my stomach starts hurting... I haven't been able to sleep more than 3 hours a night if I'm able to sleep at all and my anxiety is so high and my muscles are so tight, I'm surprised, I haven't had a panic attack yet. So I finally broke down tonight and took a .5 Kpin pill. I'm still nowhere close to sleeping but at least I don't feel like I'm so on edge that the slightest noise will send me into a panic spiral.

Should I taper or should I just try to go cold turkey for as long as possible and only take a little bit of Klonopin if I desperately need it? I'd rather tough out the withdrawal process than taper down but the idea of a seizure really scares me. I haven't been taking benzos for years and years so I thought maybe I could go cold turkey without risking a seizure but would I be causing my brain more harm if I were to cold turkey instead of tapering off? I also have GHB, tylenol 4's and weed at my disposal so I thought perhaps, I could use something else to get through the withdrawal.

I know that I should really talk to my doctor but I'd rather not out myself for taking illegal Xanax (not to mention outing myself for not taking the Klonopin even close to as prescribed.) Also, my doctor just refills my script as a formality and he keeps trying to start me on antidepressants so I'm not sure I would entirely trust his judgement anyway.

I'd much rather hear from you guys and would really appreciate your thoughts.
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DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES QUIT BENZOS OF ANY KIND COLD TURKEY. BENZOS AND BARBITURATES ARE TWO WITHDRAWAL PROCESSES THAT CAN KILL YOU, YOU NEED TO BE TAPERED DOWN PROFESSIONALLY. JUST CHECK INTO A DETOX, DON'T THINK ABOUT IT, YOU REALLY SHOULDN'T AND PROBABLY CAN'T DO IT ON YOUR OWN. THIS IS NO JOKE. YOU RISK GRAND MAL SEIZURES AT THE VERY LEAST IF YOU COLD TURKEY BENZOS, WITH COMA AND DEATH A REALISTIC POSSIBILITY. GET HELP. IF YOU CAN'T BE HONEST WITH YOUR FAMILY, GO TO YOUR FAMILY DOCTOR, SEE IF HE/SHE WILL HELP YOU TAPER ON THE QUIET.

Benzo withdrawal takes months and it is one of the worst. But if you don't stop, you'll be in a whole other kind of trouble. Talk to your doc and come clean before you really fuck yourself up.
 
detox centers usually dont cut it for long term benzo use... many times people get out and relapse and/ or commit suicide . Since it's such a long process it's more realistic to taper at home and in a lot of cases, have a loved one doll out your meds to you so you don't slip up. Man coming off this shit was a battle. I can't believe I got out of it. Will power AND tapering combined . 3 seizures and 2 months later, yay I'm off
 
I'll admit I did not read through the whole thread, but wanted to share my two cents from benzo addiction, recovery, etc.

For me, the issue was major social/life anxiety. I realized that without Kpins/benzos, all I had to do was figure out how to be happy and deal with the anxiety. Once I did that, I quite a deep benzo addiction within 3 days. Yes, there was some physical withdrawals (which I can't help you with), but the main part getting over was dealing with the anxiety in normal day to day life.

My solution: working on, and building up my confidence. I realized that other human beings are just like me, and if I treat life with a sense of humor, things are easier to deal with. Hard for me to put in words on a forum, but by being able to do things like walk up to random people and ask for weed, or talking to girls with confidence WITHOUT drugs, I realized its all in my head. If you can go through life SOBER, while acting, and feeling like you are on cocaine, (basically channeling that anxiety into happy emotions and confidence) you are set! Practice it, the worst that could happen is some stranger thinks you're weird. Luckily for me I had a very very alpha-male best friend who showed me how to live life sober and happy and confident, without any shame or worries.

That said, I still love my benzos, but I only use them occasionally, mainly for stimulant come-downs.

Cheers and best of luck to you man, I know it sucks but you've got this amazing community behind you!
Peace.
 
Im tryinf to come off xanax... mainly cuz I cant fall aslepe without it.. what is my risk of seizure iv onlu been using a couple months and mostly just .5 to 1mg before bed
 
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