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Trying to move on from opiates.

Franklin Stein

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Hello everyone,


First time posting, can't wait to get this off my chest.


Been an addict for the past 8 years, not always using, but always on my mind. Just finished a two year run from Ms and OC daily, taken orally, 360mg and 240mg respectively(not at the same time, either/or). Had 10 days clean until about 10 hours ago.


Leading up to the clean time, I cut out the OC and tapered the Ms to 60-80mg a day over the course of a month, then nothing for 10 whole days, was feeling great about everything, only complaint is the boredom.


The problem seemed to be chance (found 60mg Ms cleaning out the couch) and mental fortitude, mostly boredom.


Now that I'm out and have cut off my supplies, how do you all cope with the boredom? Personal experience with how long it took to keep focused on things for longer than 5 mins would be appreciated and what things that you liked doing while using vs. things you like doing while clean.
 
When you are bored or have nothing to do and your mind gets going thinking about useing etc....try to find a sober friend you can call to meet up with for coffee or go to a movie or whatever just to get your mind on something else...also when you are bored maybe try and find a local NA or AA meeting to attend...Good luck you can do it!
 
Thank you so much for the warm welcome and all the great reads, neversickanymore. I'll start on some of this right now.

MrCream, thank you for your input, I reached out to my sisters this morning, we've been really distant for a while, but they know what I'm going through and said they are willing to help whenever I need a little positive reinforcement or just to hang out.


kleinerkiffer, thanks for the proper move. I hope it's okay to try and keep this around as a journal. Maybe it will keep me motivated and help people about to go through the same thing, since my clean time has to start at day one, again, today.
 
Boredom can be so insidious can't it?
I think that's one of the many reasons I relapse, if you can try to find a hobby it helps A LOT.
Even trying out AA/NA meetings may help you personally. You just need to broaden your horizons.

When I was using I liked to commit retail theft - no lie.
When I am sober - I LOVED working out.

Best of luck to you mate, remember there are people going thru the exact same thing, myself included.
Much love to you!
 
Welcome to BL! Personally, I'm about 7 weeks into quitting a 3-year H habit and I know how killer the boredom can be. I've relapsed countless times and I'm sure boredom has a lot to do with that track record.

Honestly, one of the reasons I spend time on BL is to keep boredom at bay. I get on here and read and read and read, and I find it helps...at least some of the time.

Another trick I've developed: so long as I don't use, I tell myself I'm allowed to do whatever the fuck I feel like (within reason ;)). So I watch a shit-ton of TV. I read bullshit magazines. I play video games intended for people 1/3 my age. If I wanted an ice-cream sundae with 5 cherries on top, I'd give it to myself. Sometimes I want to lie on the floor in the fetal position and cry b/c I want dope so badly...so that's what I do. If I stay clean, I give my appetites free rein.

I started doing this after about a year of following my first impulse: trying to be a macho, ascetic hard-ass. I gloried in self-mastery and control. Unfortunately, that approach worked till it didn't, which often was when I got bored. And when I failed under this approach, I saw it as a failure of character and personal mettle. This made me want to use *more*.

I completely endorse the idea of getting productive hobbies, of volunteering, of getting into shape, etc. And if those things keep you healthy, then awesome. But the way I see it, in early recovery, I'm still pretty sick. I need to have easy expectations on my behavior. My *only* goal right now is to make it through today without picking up. I'll do whatever mortifying, lame-ass thing I have to do to make that happen. At bedtime, I'm not always proud of how I've spent my day. But I'm a lot closer to happy than I am on the days when I slip.

Main thing is, give yourself the latitude to find what works for you. If you slip up, that's fine; part of the process. Just dust yourself off and keep going. And keep writing on BL!
 
w0w0mg and simco, thank you both for the inspiration, made my day. Made me feel like the relapse was a speed bump instead of a brick wall.

I have a couple hobbies, the Dark Souls series, playing music (bass), and love reading sci-fi/fantasy books and short stories, and trying to get back into jogging/running.

So far so good, went for a short 20 mins jog and had a good breakfast, no symptoms yet. I'll check back in tomorrow.
 
Fantastic! Keep up the great work - Just take it one day at a time, one minute at a time if needed!
 
[MENTION=46704]Franklin[/MENTION], what kind of music do you like (I asked since you play bass)? Playing music has dug me out of several holes. Running is great too, tho I've personally been too fuckin lazy to make myself get back on that horse.
 
The boredom is rough for sure. The only cure I know is to get out and do things that you enjoy. Having a hobby may be the most important part of getting clean. Without one your just staring at the wall thinking of getting high.
 
Hobbies are definately needed to keep ourself busy when we try to stay sober. The more I feel cravings the more I need to plunge into my hobbies. Idk though if it is about my bi-polar disorder or why but plenty of others suffering from the same get obsessed on what they do. Like there isn't any shades of grey for not doing or doing it as deeply as we can.

It can be anything. I have recently spent thousands to modeling and miniature wargames and sometimes even have spent all the time I am awake either playing against others or modeling, painting and getting new army lists done. Same applied to cars and once I slept in a jump suit for a week so I didn't have to change when I started working with my newest project.

While I did drugs recreationally I spend all my time getting more knowledge on my DOC and how to potentiate the effects further. I read 50+ books on pharmacology during last period I used.

It doesn't matter me as I stay sober atleast but others may think I am one weird guy who gets obsessed into things. I am practically an Otaku most of the time but I have also sprees when I am more socially active and can hang out with others without especially doing anything significant.

Luckily rest of the world seems to know how to keep themselves in balance without getting too deeply obsessed into what they are doing.
 
simco, I love to listen to prog rock, jazz fusion, and I suppose some sort of classical/avant-garde classical, but love playing whatever.

Day two is going great, just got done with work and about to go on another short jog. No symptons still, except for being slightly more aggressive than I need to be.

cj and Mr Roots, thanks for the info, trying to be more productive in my down time, it's just really hard sometimes.
 
Hey I'm trying to move on from everything (especially opiates). Exercise, playing video games, hanging out with friends who don't drink / do drugs --- all help to varying degrees.

Best of luck
 
Have you checked out some mental health help OP. Generally the people that become addicted to opiates have a problem in their life that they themselves cannot control. I have OCD and panic disorder. I used to not feel so scared all the time. I would check out the dsm IV. Here is a good resource :http://allpsych.com/disorders/dsm/

Other than that, having hobbies is amazing. I find I have the most clarity in my day when I am watering my garden in the morning and night. It is a soulful retreat when things are a bit rough. I am dealing with some health issues and it helps me focus on something else for awhile.
 
I checked through the symptoms of different mental issues from DSM-IV manual and it seemed like it wasn't a good idea. Help me I think I might have these :)

V62.3 Academic Problem
V62.4 Acculturation Problem
308.3 Acute Stress Disorder
Adjustment Disorders
309.9 Unspecified Adjustment Reaction NOS
309.24 With Anxiety
309.0 With Depressed Mood
309.3 With Disturbance of Conduct
309.28 With Mixed Anxiety and Depressed Mood
309.4 With Mixed Disturbance of Emotions and Conduct
V71.01 Adult Antisocial Behavior
995.2 Adverse Effects of Medication NOS
780.93 Age-Related Cognitive Decline
300.22 Agoraphobia Without History of Panic Disorder
Alcohol
305.00 Abuse
303.90 Dependence
291.89 -Induced Anxiety Disorder
291.89 -Induced Mood Disorder
291.1 -Induced Persisting Amnestic Disorder
291.2 -Induced Persisting Dementia
291.5 -Induced Psychotic Disorder, With Delusions
291.3 -Induced Psychotic Disorder, With Hallucinations
291.89 -Induced Sexual Dysfunction
291.89 -Induced Sleep Disorder
303.00 Intoxication
291.0 Intoxication Delirium
291.9 -Related Disorder NOS
291.81 Withdrawal
291.0 Withdrawal Delirium
Amnestic Disorder
294.0 Amnestic Disorder Due to...Indicate the General Medical Condition
294.8 Amnestic Disorder NOS
Amphetamine (or Amphetamine-Like)
305.70 Abuse
304.40 Dependence
292.89 -Induced Anxiety Disorder
292.84 -Induced Mood Disorder
292.11 -Induced Psychotic Disorder, With Delusions
292.12 -Induced Psychotic Disorder, With Hallucinations
292.89 -Induced Sexual Dysfunction
292.89 -Induced Sleep disorder
292.89 Intoxication
292.81 Intoxication Delirium
292.9 -Related Disorder NOS
292.0 Withdrawal
307.1 Anorexia Nervosa
301.7 Antisocial Personality Disorder
Anxiety Disorder
293.84 Anxiety Disorder Due to...Indicate the General Medical Condition
300.00 Anxiety Disorder NOS
299.80 Asperger's Disorder
Attention-Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder
314.01 Combined Type
314.01 Predominantly Hyperactive-Impulsive Type
314.00 Predominantly Inattentive Type
314.9 Attention-Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder NOS
299.00 Autistic Disorder
301.82 Avoidant Personality Disorder
V62.82 Bereavement
Bipolar Disorder
296.80 Bipolar Disorder NOS
Bipolar I Disorder, Most Recent Episode Depressed
296.56 In Full Remission
296.55 In Partial Remission
296.51 Mild
296.52 Moderate
296.53 Severe Without Psychotic Features
296.54 Severe With Psychotic Features
296.50 Unspecified
296.40 Bipolar I Disorder, Most Recent Episode Hypomanic
Bipolar Disorder I, Most Recent Episode Manic
296.46 In Full Remission
296.45 In Partial Remission
296.41 Mild
296.42 Moderate
296.43 Severe Without Psychotic Features
296.44 Severe With Psychotic Features
296.40 Unspecified
Bipolar Disorder I, Most Recent Episode Mixed
296.66 In Full Remission
296.65 In Partial Remission
296.61 Mild
296.62 Moderate
296.63 Severe Without Psychotic Features
296.64 Severe With Psychotic Features
296.60 Unspecified
296.7 Bipolar I Disorder, Most Recent Episode Unspecified
Bipolar I Disorder, Single Manic Episode
296.06 In Full Remission
296.05 In Partial Remission
296.01 Mild
296.02 Moderate
296.03 Severe Without Psychotic Features
296.04 Severe With Psychotic Features
296.00 Unspecified
296.89 Bipolar II Disorder
300.7 Body Dysmorphic Disorder
V62.89 Borderline Intellectual Functioning
301.83 Borderline Personality Disorder
780.59 Breathing-Related Sleep Disorder
298.8 Brief Psychotic Disorder
307.51 Bulimia Nervosa
Caffeine
292.89 -Induced Anxiety Disorder
292.89 -Induced Sleep Disorder
305.90 Intoxication
292.9 -Related Disorder NOS
Cannabis
305.20 Abuse
304.30 Dependence
292.89 -Induced Anxiety Disorder
292.11 -Induced Psychotic Disorder, With Delusions
292.12 -Induced Psychotic Disorder, With Hallucinations
292.89 Intoxication
292.81 Intoxication Delirium
292.9 -Related Disorder NOS
293.89 Catatonic Disorder Due to...Indicate the General Medical Condition
299.10 Childhood Disintegrative Disorder
V71.02 Child or Adolescent Antisocial Behavior
307.22 Chronic Motor or Vocal Tic Disorder
307.45 Circadian Rhythm Sleep Disorder
Cocaine
305.60 Abuse
304.20 Dependence
292.89 -Induced Anxiety Disorder
292.84 -Induced Mood Disorder
292.11 -Induced Psychotic Disorder, With Delusions
292.12 -Induced Psychotic Disorder, With Hallucinations
292.89 -Induced Sexual Dysfunction
292.89 -Induced Sleep Disorder
292.89 Intoxication
292.81 Intoxication Delirium
292.9 -Related Disorder NOS
292.0 Withdrawal
294.9 Cognitive Disorder NOS
307.9 Communication Disorder NOS
Conduct Disorder
312.81 Childhood-onset type
312.82 Adolescent-onset type
312.89 Unspecified type
300.11 Conversion Disorder
301.13 Cyclothymic Disorder
Delirium
293.0 Delirium Due to...Indicate the General Medical Condition
780.09 Delirium NOS
297.1 Delusional Disorder
Dementia Due to Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease
294.10 Without behavioral disturbance
294.11 With behavioral disturbance
Dementia Due to Head Trauma
294.10 Without behavioral disturbance
294.11 With behavioral disturbance
Dementia Due to HIV Disease
294.10 Without behavioral disturbance
294.11 With behavioral disturbance
Dementia Due to Huntington's Disease
294.10 Without behavioral disturbance
294.11 With behavioral disturbance
Dementia Due to Parkinson's Disease
294.10 Without behavioral disturbance
294.11 With behavioral disturbance
Dementia Due to Pick's Disease
294.10 Without behavioral disturbance
294.11 With behavioral disturbance
Dementia Due to... Indicate Other General Medical Condition
294.10 Without behavioral disturbance
294.11 With behavioral disturbance
294.8 Dementia NOS
Dementia of the Alzheimer's Type, With Early Onset
294.10 Without behavioral disturbance
294.11 With behavioral disturbance
Dementia of the Alzheimer's Type, With Late Onset
294.10 Without behavioral disturbance
294.11 With behavioral disturbance
301.6 Dependent Personality Disorder
300.6 Depersonalization Disorder
311 Depressive Disorder NOS
315.4 Developmental Coordination Disorder
799.9 Diagnosis Deferred on Axis II
799.9 Diagnosis or Condition Deferred on Axis I
313.9 Disorder of Infancy, Childhood, or Adolescence NOS
315.2 Disorder of Written Expression
312.9 Disruptive Behavior Disorder NOS
300.12 Dissociative Amnesia
300.15 Dissociative Disorder NOS
300.13 Dissociative Fugue
300.14 Dissociative Identity Disorder
302.76 Dyspareunia (Not Due to a General Medical Condition)
307.47 Dyssomnia NOS
300.4 Dysthymic Disorder
307.50 Eating Disorder NOS
Encopresis
787.6 Encopresis, With Constipation and Overflow Incontinence
307.7 Encopresis, Without Constipation and Overflow Incontinence
307.6 Enuresis (Not Due to a General Medical Condition)
302.4 Exhibitionism
315.31 Expressive Language Disorder
Factitious Disorder
300.19 With Combined Psychological and Physical Signs and Symptoms
300.19 With Predominantly Physical Signs and Symptoms
300.16 With Predominantly Psychological Signs and Symptoms
300.19 Factitious Disorder NOS
307.59 Feeding Disorder of Infancy or Early Childhood
625.0 Female Dyspareunia Due to...Indicate the General Medical Condition
625.8 Female Hypoactive Sexual Desire Disorder Due to...Indicate the General Medical Condition
302.73 Female Orgasmic Disorder
302.72 Female Sexual Arousal Disorder
302.81 Fetishism
302.89 Frotteurism
Gender Identity Disorder
302.85 in Adolescents or Adults
302.6 in Children
302.6 Gender Identity Disorder NOS
300.02 Generalized Anxiety Disorder
Hallucinogen
305.30 Abuse
304.50 Dependence
292.89 -Induced Anxiety Disorder
292.84 -Induced Mood Disorder
292.11 -Induced Psychotic Disorder, With Delusions
292.12 -Induced Psychotic Disorder, With Hallucinations
292.89 Intoxication
292.81 Intoxication Delirium
292.89 Persisting Perception Disorder
292.9 -Related Disorder NOS
301.50 Histrionic Personality Disorder
307.44 Hypersomnia related to...Indicate the Axis I or Axis II Disorder
302.71 Hypoactive Sexual Desire Disorder
300.7 Hypochondriasis
313.82 Identity Problem
312.30 Impulse-Control Disorder NOS
Inhalant
305.90 Abuse
304.60 Dependence
292.89 -Induced Anxiety Disorder
292.84 -Induced Mood Disorder
292.82 -Induced Persisting Dementia
292.11 -Induced Psychotic Disorder, With Delusions
292.12 -Induced Psychotic Disorder, With Hallucinations
292.89 Intoxication
292.81 Intoxication Delirium
292.9 -Related Disorder NOS
307.42 Insomnia Related to...Indicate the Axis I or Axis II Disorder
312.34 Intermittent Explosive Disorder
312.32 Kleptomania
315.9 Learning Disorder NOS
Major Depressive Disorder
Major Depressive Disorder, Recurrent
296.36 In Full Remission
296.35 In Partial Remission
296.31 Mild
296.32 Moderate
296.33 Severe Without Psychotic Features
296.34 Severe With Psychotic Features
296.30 Unspecified
Major Depressive Disorder, Single Episode
296.26 In Full Remission
296.25 In Partial Remission
296.21 Mild
296.22 Moderate
296.23 Severe Without Psychotic Features
296.24 Severe With Psychotic Features
296.20 Unspecified
608.89 Male Dyspareunia Due to...Indicate the General Medical Condition
302.72 Male Erectile Disorder
607.84 Male Erectile Disorder Due to...Indicate the General Medical Condition
608.89 Male Hypoactive Sexual Desire Disorder Due to...Indicate the General Medical Condition
302.74 Male Orgasmic Disorder
V65.2 Malingering
315.1 Mathematics Disorder
Medication-Induced
333.90 Movement Disorder NOS
333.1 Postural Tremor
293.9 Mental Disorder NOS Due to...Indicate the General Medical Condition
Mental Retardation
319 Mental Retardation, Severity Unspecified
317 Mild Mental Retardation
318.0 Moderate Mental Retardation
315.31 Mixed Receptive-Expressive Language Disorder
Mood Disorder
293.83 Mood Disorder Due to...Indicate the General Medical Condition
296.90 Mood Disorder NOS
301.81 Narcissistic Personality Disorder
347 Narcolepsy
Neglect of Child
V61.21 Neglect of Child
995.5 Neglect of Child (if focus of attention is on victim)
Neuroleptic-Induced
333.99 Acute Akathisia
333.7 Acute Dystonia
332.1 Parkinsonism
333.82 Tardive Dyskinesia
333.92 Neuroleptic Malignant Syndrome
Nicotine
305.1 Dependence
292.9 -Related Disorder NOS
292.0 Withdrawal
307.47 Nightmare Disorder
V71.09 No Diagnosis on Axis II
V71.09 No Diagnosis or Condition on Axis I
V15.81 Noncompliance With Treatment
300.3 Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder
301.4 Obsessive-Compulsive Personality Disorder
V62.2 Occupational Problem
Opioid
305.50 Abuse
304.00 Dependence
292.84 -Induced Mood Disorder
292.11 -Induced Psychotic Disorder, With Delusions
292.12 -Induced Psychotic Disorder, With Hallucinations
292.85 -Induced Sleep Disorder
292.89 -Induced Sexual Dysfunction
292.89 Intoxication
292.81 Intoxication Delirium
292.9 -Related Disorder NOS
292.0 Withdrawal
313.81 Oppositional Defiant Disorder
625.8 Other Female Sexual Dysfunction Due to...Indicate the General Medical Condition
608.89 Other Male Sexual Dysfunction Due to...Indicate the General Medical Condition
Other (or Unknown) Substance
305.90 Abuse
304.90 Dependence
292.89 -Induced Anxiety Disorder
292.81 -Induced Delirium
292.84 -Induced Mood Disorder
292.83 -Induced Persisting Amnestic Disorder
292.82 -Induced Persisting Dementia
292.11 -Induced Psychotic Disorder, With Delusions
292.12 -Induced Psychotic Disorder, With Hallucinations
292.89 -Induced Sexual Dysfunction
292.89 -Induced Sleep Disorder
292.89 Intoxication
292.9 -Related Disorder NOS
292.0 Withdrawal
Pain Disorder
307.89 Associated With Both Psychological Factors and a General Medical Condition
307.80 Associated With Psychological Factors
Panic Disorder
300.21 With Agoraphobia
300.01 Without Agoraphobia
301.0 Paranoid Personality Disorder
302.9 Paraphilia NOS
307.47 Parasomnia NOS
V61.20 Parent-Child Relational Problem
V61.1 Partner Relational Problem
312.31 Pathological Gambling
302.2 Pedophilia
310.1 Personality Change Due to...Indicate the General Medical Condition
301.9 Personality disorder not otherwise specified
299.80 Pervasive Developmental Disorder NOS
V62.89 Phase of Life Problem
Phencyclidine (or Phencyclidine-Like)
305.90 Abuse
304.90 Dependence
292.89 -Induced Anxiety Disorder
292.84 -Induced Mood Disorder
292.11 -Induced Psychotic Disorder, With Delusions
292.12 -Induced Psychotic Disorder, With Hallucinations
292.89 Intoxication
292.81 Intoxication Delirium
292.9 -Related Disorder NOS
315.39 Phonological Disorder
Physical Abuse
V61.12 Physical Abuse of Adult (if by partner)
V62.83 Physical Abuse of Adult (if by person other than partner)
995.81 Physical Abuse of Adult (if focus of attention is on victim)
V61.21 Physical Abuse of Child
995.54 Physical Abuse of Child (if focus of attention is on victim)
307.52 Pica
304.80 Polysubstance Dependence
309.81 Posttraumatic Stress Disorder
302.75 Premature Ejaculation
307.44 Primary Hypersomnia
307.42 Primary Insomnia
318.2 Profound Mental Retardation
316 Psychological Factors Affecting Medical Condition
Psychotic Disorder Due to...Indicate the General Medical Condition
293.81 With Delusions
293.82 With Hallucinations
298.9 Psychotic disorder NOS
312.33 Pyromania
313.89 Reactive Attachment Disorder of Infancy or Early Childhood
315.00 Reading Disorder
Relational Problem
V62.81 Relational Problem NOS
V61.9 Relational Problem Related to a Mental Disorder or General Medical Condition
V62.89 Religious or Spiritual Problem
299.80 Rett's Disorder
307.53 Rumination Disorder
295.70 Schizoaffective Disorder
301.20 Schizoid Personality Disorder
Schizophrenia
295.20 Catatonic Type
295.10 Disorganized Type
295.30 Paranoid Type
295.60 Residual Type
295.90 Undifferentiated Type
295.40 Schizophreniform Disorder
301.22 Schizotypal Personality Disorder
Sedative, Hypnotic, or Anxiolytic
305.40 Abuse
304.10 Dependence
292.89 -Induced Anxiety Disorder
292.84 -Induced Mood Disorder
292.83 -Induced Persisting Amnestic Disorder
292.82 -Induced Persisting Dementia
292.11 -Induced Psychotic Disorder, With Delusions
292.12 -Induced Psychotic Disorder, With Hallucinations
292.89 -Induced Sexual Dysfunction
292.89 -Induced Sleep Disorder
292.89 Intoxication
292.81 Intoxication Delirium
292.9 -Related Disorder NOS
292.0 Withdrawal
292.81 Withdrawal Delirium
313.23 Selective Mutism
309.21 Separation Anxiety Disorder
318.1 Severe Mental Retardation
Sexual Abuse
V61.12 Sexual Abuse of Adult (if by partner)
V62.83 Sexual Abuse of Adult (if by person other than partner)
995.83 Sexual Abuse of Adult (if focus of attention is on victim)
V61.21 Sexual Abuse of Child
995.53 Sexual Abuse of Child (if focus of attention is on victim)
302.79 Sexual Aversion Disorder
302.9 Sexual Disorder NOS
302.70 Sexual Dysfunction NOS
302.83 Sexual Masochism
302.84 Sexual Sadism
297.3 Shared Psychotic Disorder
V61.8 Sibling Relational Problem
Sleep Disorder
Sleep Disorder Due to...Indicate the General Medical Condition
780.54 Hypersomnia Type
780.52 Insomnia Type
780.59 Mixed Type
780.59 Parasomnia Type
307.46 Sleep Terror Disorder
307.46 Sleepwalking Disorder
300.23 Social Phobia
300.81 Somatization Disorder
300.82 Somatoform Disorder NOS
300.29 Specific Phobia
307.3 Stereotypic Movement Disorder
307.0 Stuttering
307.20 Tic Disorder NOS
307.23 Tourette's Disorder
307.21 Transient Tic Disorder
302.3 Transvestic Fetishism
312.39 Trichotillomania
300.82 Undifferentiated Somatoform Disorder
300.9 Unspecified Mental Disorder (nonpsychotic)
306.51 Vaginismus (Not Due to a General Medical Condition)
Vascular Dementia
290.40 Uncomplicated
290.41 With Delirium
290.42 With Delusions
290.43 With Depressed Mood
302.82 Voyeurism
 
When you are bored or have nothing to do and your mind gets going thinking about useing etc....try to find a sober friend you can call to meet up with for coffee or go to a movie or whatever just to get your mind on something else...also when you are bored maybe try and find a local NA or AA meeting to attend...Good luck you can do it!

i second this NA idea..the soul crushing boredom when u come off opiates is awful..i just toughed it out at home but i should have tried to do something..the lack of energy was so crippling as well..together it made it hard to do anything..i think an NA meeting would be best idea though because u would be around others that are going through the same thing..

just thinking back to the months of intense boredom after opiates makes me cringe
 
MrRoot my friend, you may need what doctors refer to as a full frontal lobotomy :P.

There are personality tests that will help you find a doctor. Getting my mental health treated was key in my recovery. A lot of the reasons I self medicated have been helped with therapy and medication.
 
damn, that's some technical stuff. anymore, i stick to e-z stuff myself (nominally a guitar player). but, good deal! impressive!

Thanks, I cant even wrap my mind around guitar, too many chords and weird finger postions, stressed out just thinking about it, lol.

Day 3 and 4 were great, really productive!! Almost no symptoms, just saying things without much of a filter, you all know how it goes.
 
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