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drdmike

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I'm about 190 and I'm trying to get down to 175. I'm 32, m, 5'9.
Last week, I started to moderate my food intake by restricting my calories to 1350 per day except on the weekends when I can eat around 2500. I do not count fruits or veggies in the calories intake. I know 1350 sounds like a little but surprisingly, it fills me up when I supplement it with fruits and veggies. I could probably get by on 1100 calories. I've been working out 4x a week and so far, I am only down 1lb. Does it take a long time to lose weight when you're reducing calories and working out?
 
I believe calorie restriction is a very bad idea. You're focused on results, not process, when it needs to be vice versa.

Start by writing down everything you eat. The time, the rough amount (small, medium, large serving) and how you feel after (a quick 1-10 scale is simple and effective enough).
 
If you're losing far under what the calorie schedule / your expectations were, and you're not counting fruit/veggie calories (unsure why on earth you think that's valid), the next step is right there: start acknowledging that fruit/veg have calories and should be included as such ;)
 
bmxxx said:
If you're losing far under what the calorie schedule / your expectations were, and you're not counting fruit/veggie calories (unsure why on earth you think that's valid), the next step is right there: start acknowledging that fruit/veg have calories and should be included as such ;)
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I sort of do. That is why I stay under 1350 a day. I probably have 2 bananas, pineapple, green peas and tomatoes.
 
there's no 'sort of' on this thing, is all i meant; the problem of ppl who just assume they know what they're getting down and turn out to be woefully wrong is very commonplace in this type of thing. I cannot recommond enough using something like fitday(the FREE version, never pay for something like this) as accurately as you can, for a couple weeks minimum (it is annoying/PITA the first couple days, after that half the stuff you eat is already entered and it's a breeze!). Even ppl who were doing at-home, written tracking tend to be surprised once they utilize something like fitday.
/bonus: after a couple weeks on fitday, most can stop using it w/o much detriment, and just use it on/off every once in a while to stay on-track ;P
 
drdmike said:
I'm about 190 and I'm trying to get down to 175. I'm 32, m, 5'9.
Last week, I started to moderate my food intake by restricting my calories to 1350 per day except on the weekends when I can eat around 2500. I do not count fruits or veggies in the calories intake. I know 1350 sounds like a little but surprisingly, it fills me up when I supplement it with fruits and veggies. I could probably get by on 1100 calories. I've been working out 4x a week and so far, I am only down 1lb. Does it take a long time to lose weight when you're reducing calories and working out?
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lol dat aint smart

either you eat too little of this shit,or you dont count significant amount of calories,dat fructose aint myth
 
IF'ing is fantastic for most-anybody I've known who's tried it. I probably feed about 6-8hrs daily starting around 4-6pm and I'm actually trying to gain weight, I IF because it makes me feel better :)

If you're just getting into it it can be psychologically 'off' for many in the very very beginning (so is fixing a bad sleep schedule) Once in the groove I find it real enjoyable and really don't like to break fast til i'm "done" w/ my day.
 
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Ya, I know what you mean. I actually cannot lift unless I'm properly fasted now. Lifting without food in my stomach used to sound horrible to me, but now lifting after eating food tends to suck! And you can accomplish so much more in the day if you just get up and go go go without even thinking about food.

Bulking with IF would be interesting. I don't even know if my body would allow it beyond 12%BF or so...I feel like I could feed 6 hours straight at the buffet and top out around 12% on IF.
 
haha that's how I used to be, now I couldn't imagine changing back. IF'ing feels far more proper than trying to eat all day (especially eating before training) Whether training or just getting shit done during the day I much prefer to be fasted now. I eat when my day's done, if that's closer to 8p then that's when I end fasting (and I strangely don't get too hungry until way after dark...that's probably indicative of too much afternoon coffee though)

I've gotten my 2nd highest (natty)bodyweight ever, about 1.5months ago, while IF bulking. Once I got used to how to 'refuel' I have it as 3 very very heavy meals daily from around dark til midnight, so no issue getting down enough dense, quality stuff. I feast and it literally sedates me, i'll never go back to regular breakfasts/lunches.
 
I see it on a very primal level...ancient hunters didn't eat before they went and killed the day's feast, right? And animals tend to hunt when they are hungry. Point is, it seems rather natural (yes, I hate the overuse of this term, but I do choose to use it here!) to undergo a gruelling workout shortly before the daily feast. Sleep, wake up, repeat.
 
How are we doing?
/REALITY: I've been worse off the entire time since I switched to IF, and've built up an impressive defense-structure complete w/ pawning the practice to others, to secure my false, daily reality that I simply behave better- whether athletically, or at an office- when I'm in a half-day fasting mode. It's in my head, my brother's head, and the heads of thousands+ on hundreds of boards who agree wholeheartedly w/ my(our) sentiments.
//wanna know how I know you've never given IF'ing a week's honest try?

FUCK! I wrote out like another paragraph, going into how 'health'/fitness protocols adn products are half garbage, how I have heavy personal experience from several years managing a major GNC locale while doing personal training on the side, and have learned that this type of data is, sadly, out of the reach of 'show me pubmed sources' when it comes to proving something works. My real response was more detailed but all it really had was that IF is awesome, the overwhelming majority of those who try it (especially when accounting for relative 'authority') are believers, and that I love it even though it is worse for my "fitness" goal (get big/muscle). I have gotten my biggest (2nd biggest really) while IF'ing, but the majority of the time I'm probably lighter than I'd otherwise be on an all-day eating protocol. I know and accept this because the way I feel while living my days as 'half/half' (hungry/fed, so to speak) actually became an unintended but more important part of diet than bulking.
 
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