Trying to get off of heroin - only have 2.5 mg sub

[Smash2488]

Okay so here's the situation - Swim is a junkie and was clean for about two years with an exception of a little week long bender here and there if you know what I mean. Swim broke her arm about three months ago and has been back on the dope ever since. Swims mom found a bag in the bathroom the other day and has no choice but to quit now and swims mom bought an 8 mg suboxone for her, however, swim took a 3rd of it yesterday and then went out and broke through the sub last night, then turned around and did the same exact thing today. Now swim is left with a 3rd of a sub, no cash, work in 2 days, and doesn't know what to do because of her not so smart decisions in the last couple of days.

Swim wants to know if it would be wise to divide up te last 3rd of the sub strip and add some Imodium on top of it to make it through? Or if you break through the suboxone with heroin, once the heroin is gone, is the suboxone still there due to the longer half life? Swim understands it's clearly not on the receptors anymore because the heroin made it onto them but maybe it's still in the system somewhere? Any help is greatly appreciated as swim has school all day tomorrow and for the rest of the week and now really doesn't know what to do. Thanks.

 

[T. Calderone]

We shouldn't use swim here, understand your position. You will probably need to stock up on the immodium to get you through.
A third of a strip may help you through, but wait to use it until tomorrow or Thursday

 

[Smash2488]

Oh okay sorry I didn't know if this was one of the sites that gets weird about self incrimination haha I'm new here. So would it be wise to get me hands on another strip? Clearly it would help but I don't exactly want to get hooked on subs either, though I know that takes a while. And how much Imodium would be sufficient to take some of the withdrawal symptoms away? I don't have a very large habit, literally like a .3 per day of tar

 

[Smash2488]

Like i know I can do it I've done it before and had a good chunk of time at one point I just have an extremely demanding schedule right now I go to school 5 days a week all day long and I work 3 nights a week on top of it so I can't really be running around all dope sick ya know? The only reason I kept getting high was because I would rather jump off a bridge than be sick. Thank god my mom is being so supportive through all of this.

 

[T. Calderone]

There was a thread mentioning immodium a little while ago. So if you're trying to get through the next couple days, maybe get another strip. This way you can split it up, you can go to work and school and feel okay. If your goal is to completely get off the stuff, buy a bunch of immodium. Being that you've been back using for three months, you're bound to have intestinal symptoms. There's some good threads here that go into detail about different ways people have detoxed. I'm glad your mom has been there for you! That support makes all the difference.

 

[Smash2488]

Okay I'll try to get my hands on another sub then. My cousin gets subutex and he said he would give me one it's just a matter of finding him that's a pain in the ass. And my mom really has been a huge help, she's out getting imodium for me as we speak. I don't know what I'd do without her. Thank you for your help.

 

[T. Calderone]

Hey no problem. :D Remember if your cousin is getting subutex, as opposed to suboxone that you can use less. If you can't get a hold of him, maybe your mom can get you another strip? or is that out of the question?

 

[Smash2488]

Yeah, I always liked subutex waaaaay more than suboxone for some reason it works much much better for me and I feel completely normal on as little as 1.5 mg I always wondered why it was like that if the suboxone is supposedly the same thing? I will definitely work on that tomorrow and try to get the subutex but if not I can get another strip from someone I work with on Thursday night. Hopefully this all turns out okay Im terrified of having to be at school and work sick.

 

[T. Calderone]

See the subutex does not contain the blocking (whatever it's called) ingredient nalexone that suboxone has. This enables a person to sort of feel "buzzed" whereas suboxone won't allow for that if that makes sense. You will be ok don't worry!

 

[Smash2488]

That's what I figured it was. I never felt like suboxone worked as well. Anyways, I really appreciate your help!! It means a lot. I got a bottle of Imodium and my sub strip set out for the morning. I think I'm gonna try to only use half of my strip in the morning with some Imodium to try to conserve the little sub I have until i find more :/

 

[PantyRaid]

Yeah personally I try to take as little as possible to get me through just cause subs can be a pretty nasty addiction themselves, although you should be able to take them for at least a week with no adverse effects. I just like to be on the safe side. I'd say start out with as little as you think could help, wait a few hours and if you're still not feeling too hot (you likely won't ever feel entirely ok - at least I never have - I'm just talking about bearable here) then take a little more. I usually take the most on day one and then try to skip day two entirely - it's got a long half-life, one can last up to three days. Then on day three I'll take just a little more and then try to stick it out for the remainder of the time. The first time I did it like this I was doing a half to a gram of raw a day, took about 4 mgs on day one and 4 more on day three and while I by no means felt great, it was bearable and I was not only confident that I would not get hooked on the subs, but also pretty proud of myself for making it through. It's a good feeling and I wish you the best!

 

[Smash2488]

Thank you!!

 

[Smash2488]

I woke up and took 1.5 mg
Of sub and 8 mg of loperamide. I feel okay right now. No motivation to get my ass to school but I don't feel sick by any means. Hopefully I feel okay all day.