Trying second time. Is it too soon?

[myr]

Hi all!

This is my first post and seeking some guidance from the pros here.
I tried MDMA for the first time on last saturday. The dosage was 1*100mg ~87% crystal for the evening. It was really nice, like being a jelly octopus full of pleasant feelings. The magic lasted around 2 hours, then it wore off, some stimulant effect lasted a bit longer. I found psy-trance to be a great catalyst for the stuff
There was no noticable comedown and I felt alright and relaxed in the past days.
Ok, here's the thing:
I've read a lot about how the tolerance builds up that I should wait at least a month or so between uses.
Now, there will be a party on this thursday (so that's 5 days from my first) and I was wondering if I it's alright if I took, say 1*120mg (~105 mg pure), and then I'll wait till the end of summer with the next experience anyway. Am I right if I expect it to be nearly as intense as the first with this slightly upped dose?

Any info about possible outcomes would be appreciated

 

[Bearlove]

Did you test your stuff?

It will be ok if you take 120mg 5 days after your first dose - just do not get into the habit of dosing so close together. Depending on the setting you were in then it may be better, worse or same as your first. (If you dosed first time at home, listening to music alone, then taking in a party setting (with other people) then I would say its going to be a very different high). Better vs worse ? You tell us based on your experience.

Why are you looking to increase the dose ? If 100mg worked for you why increase it?

 

[myr]

I did not test it myself, my friend did it, but that was only to determine that it has MDMA in it. The percentage info comes from the seller who had great feedbacks based on his product and people who tried the same said that's about right.
The setting was an open air psy trance party the first time, and it will be the second time too. Most of the people do MDMA there, also, it's a kind and open environment that boosts positive thoughts and we are dancing till after the sun comes up. Wonderful

About dosage: my friend told me that the optimal would be 1.5mg/body weight(kg) of pure stuff. For me that'd be 72*1,5mg=108mg. 120mg of 87% product would be 104.4mg pure. I have nothing to compare to, but the first one - even though it was great - still left me wishing to get a bit higher.

 

[JWills20]

I did not test it myself, my friend did it, but that was only to determine that it has MDMA in it. The percentage info comes from the seller who had great feedbacks based on his product and people who tried the same said that's about right.
The setting was an open air psy trance party the first time, and it will be the second time too. Most of the people do MDMA there, also, it's a kind and open environment that boosts positive thoughts and we are dancing till after the sun comes up. Wonderful

About dosage: my friend told me that the optimal would be 1.5mg/body weight(kg) of pure stuff. For me that'd be 72*1,5mg=108mg. 120mg of 87% product would be 104.4mg pure. I have nothing to compare to, but the first one - even though it was great - still left me wishing to get a bit higher.

I wouldn't get caught up on the whole purity % bullshit. You have no idea what percentage it was, and it's unlikely that whoever is telling you actually knows either. Not to mention most dealers will lie anyway.

1.5mg/kg sounds about right, but don't bother factoring in the purity. It's just something you can never really know. As long as it tests for MDMA and isn't highly cut, you're good to dose normally. I've found the perfect dose to be around 120-130mg with a 50mg redose 2-3 hours laters. I weigh 78kg.

Welcome to BL.

 

[myr]

On an online market where dozens of people compete, he might not be in a position to lie - or he ends up not selling anything so i trust it's near as advertised. Anyway, you may be right.
I'm not going to top up, I have to work the next day so i'm looking to get 2,5-3 hrs of joy then 6 hrs of sleep :D Thanks for the info, happy to be here

 

[JWills20]

On an online market where dozens of people compete, he might not be in a position to lie - or he ends up not selling anything so i trust it's near as advertised. Anyway, you may be right.
I'm not going to top up, I have to work the next day so i'm looking to get 2,5-3 hrs of joy then 6 hrs of sleep :D Thanks for the info, happy to be here

I might just happen to know what online market you're talking about, but that doesn't mean they won't lie. Without technical chemistry equipment which costs 1000s of £££ you can't find out the amount of byproducts reducing purity, so of course they're going to lie to you. Not to mention how can you tell how pure the product is by simply taking it? Highly doubt there's much of a subjective difference between 100% & 90% pure MDMA, and even if their was, how could you attribute that to purity from just your subjective experiences.

100% pure MDMA would be an odorless translucent crystal. I've never encountered that off the street nor any online markets, so obviously none of it is completely pure. Nevertheless, it's pure enough and unlikely to change all that much to the experience.

Another problem with interpreting purity is the 84% confusion that is regularly discussed. In order for MDMA to be psychoactive in humans, the freebase liquid must be bound to a salt. Therefore, all MDMA crystal molecules consist of a minimum of 16% hydrocloride salt (as this is what each molecule of MDMA requires for binding), therefore meaning that only 84% of the overall weight is MDMA. But, without the binding to the salt, it wouldn't work in humans anyway (it would be a liquid that we couldn't metabolize), so technically that is 100% pure. Therefore, when you're trying to interpret purity, how do you know whether the manufacturer is reporting a purity which reflects the amount of actual MDMA in the sample, where the answer would be 84% if it was produced perfectly. Or, on the other hand, does the 84% reported reflect 16% byproducts ignoring the weight of the hydrocloride salt therefore rendering it less. Using the first example, the weight of the second example would actually be 68% MDMA reflecting the 16% byproducts AND the 16% hydrocloride salt weight.

Hope that made sense. Moral of the story - purity isn't even worth thinking about. If it tests for MDMA, dose as you would usually.

 

[myr]

Absolutly made sense thanks for shedding light on that!

 

[myr]

Ok guys, repoting back.
I was hesitant taking crytal yesterday - for the better part of the evening. I felt discomfort and some inner tension and headache from some weed (i sometimes get that). Nevertheless, got some contact high from my friend who was already rolling and redosing the initial 120 with 50. The setting wasn't nearly as stimulating like, say, an open air party but the music was trippy so I went along with the original plan, and dropped the 120 at 2am.
Experience: on pretty empty stomach, it took 30 minutes to come up and then it hit the same level of high as the first time. The only difference, that even without redosing it lasted much longer. At T+2 i thought i'm coming down already like last time but that was just a trick to hit me even harder. Ear to ear smile, rolling my ass off, then at T+3 the last DJ finished but still felt like dancing and euphoric. So we went to my place to sweeten the comedown with some weed, which didn't really wanted to happen, still at T+4. I slept maybe 30 mins, then woke up and I was finally down. Took the bus for work, it's midday now, had a coffee and even though i'm craving for a bed, the afterglow keeps me awake and entertained :D
Strangely i get jaw tension after comedown, nothing while rolling.

It's time for a break till august to keep the magic flow ^^

 

[Altjira]

Naaaaiiiiiyyyycceeeee! Lucky you bro! My jaw is crazy as hell when I roll... and the next day... and sometimes the day after that... Happy Rollin'!