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Trying a new combination wondering if its safe

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dextrodoctor

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I will start this off by saying that i would consider myself an experienced user when it comes to psychedelics. And i plan on tripping in a few days with my friend who is fairly experienced with some psychs. But i acquired some psilocybe cubensis, 2c-i, and 2c-p.

what we were planning on doing was dosing all at once on empty stomachs the following each.

1.7 g mushrooms
7mg 2c-p
20mg 2c-i

I was wondering if anyone has done anything along these lines or if there is a major issue with this combo.
 
Doesn't sound very fun. IMO 2C-x and shrooms don't mix well, but I've only mixed with 2C-I. I just think the drugs are very different and it doesn't do them justice to mix them.
 
if you have the timing right, you might have a good time. but taking everything at once will most likely kill your pleasureable trip with the 2c's body load. especially 2c-p body load is pretty nasty the first 2-3 hours. i'd wait at least 3 hours with the 2c-i and then another hour or 2 with the shrooms. you'll notice if you can handle it anyway.
don't take all at once. 2c-p lasts long enough to overlap with leaving enough time for the bodyload to get comfortable.
 
I dont really mind the body load i have taken 2c-s before but i didnt find anything wrong with it but i seek dxm and diphenhydramines body load in the past so im probably weird like that and i need to take my friend into consideration i guess. And for the timing i was going to take the others with the 2c-p to give effects while 2c-p kickes in. I could adjust dosages i have like 60mgs of the 2ci and a gram of the 2c-p and with my scale i can adjust dosages near to the microgram.
I wasn't planning on getting too many effects from the shrooms they seem to be pretty average and i haave taken that amount before with nbome with little effect. Another thing i was considering is adjusting it to just one main substance like 2c-p im just afraid of its duration we only have about 15 hours before his dad is gonna show up I guess the main question i have at this point is just more information on peoples experiance with 2c-p.

People that have taken 2c-p what amount did you take? and how long did it take to come up? how long untill the effects began to subside? I know thats kindove a loaded set of questions but any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
i've taken 2c-p up to 15mg. on average i take 10mg and the trip lasts well over 12hours in total. i found 2c-p has a very slow comeup. 2-3 hours until it fully unfolds, then a good 5-6 hour peak and another 4-6 hours comedown. taken nasally the bodyload is pretty nasty for me the first 1-2 hours of the peak. i just cannot rest and enjoy the wonderful visuals fully with all the jutters and tremors. when plugged the bodyload is pretty easy in comparison.

i've mixed 2c-p with lots of other stuff because of its long duration its especially good for festivals or long parties. i cannot however recommend combining it with 2c-e, that's a bit too much for your brain. dont know about 2c-i tho. you definitly want to watch your dose with 2c-p. the dose curve is insane. 7mg is too light for me. 10 is ok, and beyond 14 its too much.

7mg 2cp sounds ok in my eyes. but go slow on the rest. have fun.
 
from what i hear obsidios 2c-i is very similar to 2c-b.

Im probably going to adjust the dose to the following

10mg 2c-p then wait 2 hours
15mg 2c-i wait a while until i get a grip on trip
1.7g cubensis drop to mix with peak of previous

this is mainly because shrooms are relatively weak to me in doses under 3 grams so ile rely on 2c-p to give me the bulk of the trip and go slow on 2c-i.
 
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Seems like a little much, man. I recommend you reduce the combo to 2 substances until you have enough experience with that first (by that I mean significantly more than 1 trip!). The most logical would be to take the mushrooms and one of the 2C-X instead of both, I can understand you imagine each has something to contribute to the mix but first it should be enough to see how 2C-I and 2C-P combine with mushrooms separately.
There are a lot of reasons including safety, mosty specifically though this is about predictability... with 3 drugs it is that much harder to come up with the right dosages, let alone the fact that every situation can ask for a slightly different dosing.

So take 2 first and be satisfied remembering that without extensive experience you possibly (probably?) wouldn't appreciate a more elaborate mix that much more.

For the record: I have had mixed results with combining mushrooms or tryptamines with PEAs. Sometimes it synergized, other times it felt like 2 trips both wanting to tell their own story shouting at the same time. Be sensible and keep it down, you must be prepared that it will not be ideal. If you'd take a lot of all 3 it could get complicated.

Regarding safety: the risk would be mental and sensory overload, I think that physically it should not be life threatening but drugs like 2C-P can be very unpleasant if you take a lot and 2C-I can be physically taxing as well. Be careful.
 
My experiences mixing 2c-x & tryptamines have been pretty blah FWIW. And that does seem excessive, especially if you don't even have a full 24hrs without having to deal with an authority figure. I'dsave the 2c-p for when you have a least a whole day to yourself. My propyl trips have all lasted about 16hrs or so
 
dextrodoctor said:
from what i hear obsidios 2c-i is very similar to 2c-b.
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sounds to me like you arent experienced with 2c-i. perhaps you should consider doing it solo first? IME 2c-i feels pretty different from 2c-b....

i subscribe to what others have said so far. doses are a bit much for a combo, and you might want to give the mushrooms a miss for such a lenghty trip/combo that 2c-p implies
 
I have tried 2c-p a few times before and have extensive experience with mushrooms and i tried out 2c-i by itself today and to be it seems extremely similar to 2c-b which i have taken many times. I will try out all 3 my friend definitly will not be taking any 2c-i he has little experience with 2cx's. Thanks for the input i might post a write up of how it goes if i can recall it afterwards.
 
The dosages certainly sound overkill to me. 20mg of 2C-I or 7mg of 2C-P are enough for a fairly strong trip as is. Combining the two and you're looking at doubling the intensity or more - then throwing mushrooms into the mix is just going to make it even stronger.

Personally I think you'd be better off with something like: 1.7g of mushrooms (I'm assuming Cubensis, if it's liberty caps, lower the dosage) + 12mg 2C-I + 4mg 2C-P - I think that'd give a nice strong trip but not overwhelming or distracting, and allows the chemicals to mix nicely and provide an interesting blend of effects rather than simply being an excess of everything like you might encounter with higher doses.

If your friend has little experience you might want to stick to two of the drugs or lower the doses further.

Also, due to 2C-P's duration, it might actually be worth considering stacking the doses towards favouring 2C-P as the strongest component and the others much weaker - otherwise you end up with an intense peak but then it might drop off into an underwhelming trip through the rest of the duration of the 2C-P. If 2C-P is the compound you take the highest dose of, you'll have the really intense peak but then it'll drop down into a regular trip rather than a weak one. :)

Have fun, and do report back like you said :)
 
Well last weekend i dosed 16mg of 2c-p with the 1.7 grams of cubensis then on the comedown I bumped some ketamine. I decided against taking the 2c-i because ahead of time i tested the 2c-i in a low dose in conjunction with a low dose of 2c-p which gave me too uncomfortable of a body buzz to consider taking a large dose of each. My friend ended up just taking an 1/8 of Psilocybe Cubensis and then deciding against taking the 2c-p. The visuals were Noticeable and pronounced more so than even my usual LSD trip, the night went okay except I had to wait 27 hours after taking the 2c-p before i could finally relax and fall asleep. Now a few days later i still feel a little off but i can tell that i will probably be back to baseline in the morning.
 
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