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trump new york fraud investigations


Good. They should learn now rather than later that he thinks of them as no more than marks. Less I suspect.

If everyone who doesn't benefit from his 'make the ultra rich richer' platform were to realize they are voting directly against their own interest; perhaps that would help clarify things.

Yes buying his stock is just giving him money; expect no return. Remember you are donating money to a billionaire and ask yourself if it should be vice versa? If you are still on board I won't stop you
 
when trump ran in 2016 he talked a lot about how superrich he was and how that made him able to fund his own campaign thus he couldn't be bought and was beholden to nobody.

that turned out to be just more utter bullshit. he took money from political donors and special interests like everybody else in the d.c. 'swamp'.

now moms and pops all over the nation are sending him money which he's using for legal bills.

trumpmeme12.jpg


it would be funny if it wasn't so cynically tragic.

alasdair
 
when trump ran in 2016 he talked a lot about how superrich he was and how that made him able to fund his own campaign thus he couldn't be bought and was beholden to nobody.

that turned out to be just more utter bullshit. he took money from political donors and special interests like everybody else in the d.c. 'swamp'.

now moms and pops all over the nation are sending him money which he's using for legal bills.

trumpmeme12.jpg


it would be funny if it wasn't so cynically tragic.

alasdair

Disturbing. From what I have gathered this dude NEVER spends his own money. From daddy to gov bail outs to campaign money for his defense. I will go as far as to say I THINK that is what HE THINKS makes him a "brilliant businessman"....I can kind of understand the delusion from his point of view; he has failed upward his entire life and never spends a cent of what's his. This mofo is white and green privelage walking. And it looks about as pretty as it sounds......


I have to go here because believe it or not my area is like fierce pro-trump. (I sware I would try and help but there is no talking or reasoning with the orange idiot crowd.) There are STILL TRUMP 2020 billboards and banners and ish. Drive through you would think it is 2019 covid never happened and the world very well may be flat. Trump hats on the workers at convenience stores (so obviously the owners are on board). T-shirts reading "learn the language or get out", bumper stickers being sold suggesting DIRECTLY to Run Obama Over, they garble a couple letters to make it cute but there is no joke there.....which seems to be pushing the limit of the 1st amendmant. NOT that I think Obama was perfect or anything; honestly 'run trump over' bumper stickers would be slightly on the wrong side of good taste IMO.

What national poll should I be looking at the most seriously? There are so many....who holds the gold standard? That is a real question.

All of us near the poverty line (minus a couple farm owners). lower middle class? Mostly fixed income. The exact people he sees as dead weight.
 
You beat me to it. 34/34 felonies, and what 11 contempts of court. (meaning he can't sit down and behave to save his life; almost literally)

Im done with saying Trump, it is now Convict # (still waiting on that) and nothing more; ever.....

34 felonies, shit he has most career criminals I know beat with his rap sheet......

So a r*cist r*pis frequent flyer and admitted friend of Epstein; a man that attempted a coux against the government and now a 34 time felon is the GOP candidate.

I hope anyone that supported this man even for a second has a bit of shame. (yes even you guys that got 56k to not do minimum wage jobs).

HOW DID WE GET HERE? Erosion of civil rights IMO. The Patrot Act is a good example.
 
Pretty bad that we went from the most fair court system in the world, to this kangaroo court. Most people won't immediately be aware of how bad this precedent is, but they'll eventually see when it's weaponized against people they support, by their political enemies that decide to use the same lawfare that is now apparently acceptable, because now that it is this way, both sides will use lawfare, but hating trump is more important to a lot of people than the actual checks and balances that kept us stabilized
 
Judges, District Attorneys, and Prosecutors can now do what they want if it aligns with the beliefs of the state orthodoxy
 
Pretty bad that we went from the most fair court system in the world, to this kangaroo court.

is it a kangaroo court simply because trump was found guilty?

please explain, in detail and with evidence, how this was not a fair trial and an example of due process?

the indictment was handed down by a ny grand jury in march 2023. grand juries are made up of regular ny citizens. if you claim that this was unfair then please explain - with evidence - how the members of the grand jury were 'got' and forced to indict trump?

he was found guilty today on all counts by a jury of ny citizens. again, can you explain how all 12 jurors were 'got' and forced to return a guilty verdict? please show your work.

seriously, please explain how this whole shadowy conspiracy was orchestrated and executed...

this is lawfare! this is a disgrace! the judge is corrupt! is emotional, baseless nonsense which plays great in the court of public opinion, where trump loves to perform his histrionics. but when it gets real, and he and his team have to make their case in a real world court of law where things like facts and evidence matter, it all falls apart as it so clearly did.

he's a criminal and he'll be sentenced as such on july 11th.

alasdair
 
I know.........but still........

Someone said times are getting Stormy for Trump.

Nobody for president.
 
I know.........but still........

Someone said times are getting Stormy for Trump.

Nobody for president.
If Global Warming brings "Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs" forecast debut, I suggest we take 1 second to appreciate it. It's global warming, but still. If Hitler hands you a kitten you say "Thank-you". "Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs", I know what my next wish is gonna be.
 
But they was good people.

Willie Nelson told a story on a show about Great Moments in white trash. Old farmer Joe, left his wife, 4 young kids and a dying farm and ran off with the neighbor's wife. But they was Good People!
 
Pretty bad that we went from the most fair court system in the world, to this kangaroo court. Most people won't immediately be aware of how bad this precedent is, but they'll eventually see when it's weaponized against people they support, by their political enemies that decide to use the same lawfare that is now apparently acceptable, because now that it is this way, both sides will use lawfare, but hating trump is more important to a lot of people than the actual checks and balances that kept us stabilized

I agree with the your basic sentiment here, but where was this line of thinking the entire time Trump supporters were shouting "Lock her up" for months on end?

I think the American people do not want this, in either direction. Despite how divided we are, I think the vast majority of us want our institutions to be as fair and unbiased as possible.

I'm not a fan of Trump, everyone knows that. But I cannot objectively look at this situation and conclude anything other than the whole thing was politically motivated. I don't know enough about the law to say anything conclusively on the merits of the case itself, but I don't think there's any doubt that this trial wouldn't have happened if he hadn't decided to run again.

The democrats squandered every bit of credibility with the Russian collusion , Robert Mueller, storyline. I think the democratic establishment still resents the fact they wasted all their political capital on that. They see being able to call Trump a convicted felon on television as a consolation prize for all their previous failed endeavors. I don't think that's how it should work.

But let me reiterate, the next time HRCs name is uttered at a Trump rally, there will be cries to lock her up. And that is and has always been hypocritical if you don't want to live in a country that prosecutes political opponents.

But as usual democrats shit the bed and gave more momentum/ammunition to Trump. He was probably going to win anyway, but he almost certainly will now. People will not show up for Biden. Gen Z calls him genocide Joe. The biggest tankie leftist commentator in the world, Hasan Piker, has publicly stated he will not be voting for him. (He's a millionaire millennial but he likes to cosplay as a working class Zoomer lol).

That's a huge problem. That's supposed to be your base. Trump is shaving off minority support as well among religious/moderate blacks and Hispanics... and to top it off, the pro Israel camp doesn't like him anymore either. It is actually difficult to think of a single demographic where his support hasn't at least slightly dipped.

And yet, he refuses to step away.
That's not being a patriot, imo.
 
Would these charges ever have been brought had he never became president? That's a good question.

I don't feel bad for him either way. He brought this on himself with his bloodlust for ultimate power. It's almost cathartic to watch him bleed.

Has nothing to do with his politics, he's the type of rich scumbag who abuses the system, I hated him before he got into politics.
 
Here’s the thing, his family should’ve stopped trump from running for president. He was king of New York for a while, even though he was fucking people over. But he was not under a spotlight. As soon as you want the power of the presidency you are going to become under a spotlight. And from there, of course, crimes were uncovered. So I don’t call it political, I call it being under a damn spotlight because you’re running for president.

I don’t care what the media says, the abortion things gonna kill the Republicans. I honestly believe Trump doesn’t have a chance in hell.
 
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