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Lysergamides True Strength Of LSD tabs (2024)

Quasimoto said:
I think 600ug actual dose would land about 30% of novice users in a hospital.

Shit gets fucking wild after 300ug. It becomes increasingly difficult to NOT freak out during the peak, and when you're peaking for 16+ hours, good luck with that 👍.
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When I was a 18 yo dipshit (still a dipshit, just a couple years older), I had my first ever trip with ALD-52. At that point, my experiences with altered states were confined to maybe two times being drunk and having smoked cannabis once. Both drinking and doing weed were rationalised because I wanted to work up to psychedelics, being utterly mesmerised by Hofmann's "LSD - My Problem Child". The schoolmate I bought the cannabis from actually mentioned that someone in his clique had 2C-B pills, and I wanted to get them, but was told to "try weed first, maaan".

I got two 100 μg tabs of ALD-52. Being a dipshit, I rationalised Hofmann had 250 μg and somehow handled it without knowing what to expect. 200 μg ALD-52 was less and at that time it was already speculated (but I don't think confirmed) that ALD-52 is just a pro-drug anyways. Took it in the evening, because at the time school was over and my parents usually left to work before I came down for breakfast. That morning, they heard a sound of me collapsing on the floor. I had just assumed I died and played my part, lying "unconscious" on the floor. They were shocked, called the ambulance and somehow I weaseled my way out of that one with the occasion being labelled as a syncope of unknown cause.

Years later I took a pellet of 150 μg 1cP-LSD and had to call in a friend to emergency-take-care-of-me. Was reborn again, samsara the whole ordeal.

Obviously I seem to be sensitive, but it is beyond me how anyone could ever take more than 3 tabs of clean 100 μg LSD. I have not tried again, except recently 1/3 tab of 150 μg 1T-LSD, which was very weird and not useful.

I prefer the psycholytic, not psychedelic approach, and for that the phenethylamines shine and I know how to use them and can dose them accurately, with largely no bad surprises awaiting. But I can not help be impressed by the mind-shattering and spiritual qualities of LSD. For now, I have no use for it, but one day I am sure I will revisit it again to break and reassemble my psyche. Truly an awe-inspiring material.
 
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Oh, LSD is great in psycholytic doses! Try like 60-75 ug LSD (for a normal person), or less if you are sensitive. It is an excellent amount to do with a bunch of friendly people who are also on LSD. Smaller amounts of LSD also combine well with the phenethylamines I've tried it with (mescaline, 2C-I, and 2C-E).
 
Quasimoto said:
Go to the LSD subreddit. They take 600ug and it makes them giggly and they describe effects from 75ug.

Reddit is insanely, laughably bad for drug advice or trip reports. I think the main problem there is the average age. r/drugs is probably around 50-70% teenagers under 18.

Nobody knows what they hell they are talking about. It's mostly 15 year olds getting shitty drug advice from 16 year olds.
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That is why we are here. You can look through quite a few of my posts and clearly see that the same disease you have presented from reddit is spreading to this sacred site as well, on many different topics. Factual information means nothing to the echo of the mob. May the Lords of Karma save us all.
 
iom said:
Oh, LSD is great in psycholytic doses! Try like 60-75 ug LSD (for a normal person), or less if you are sensitive. It is an excellent amount to do with a bunch of friendly people who are also on LSD. Smaller amounts of LSD also combine well with the phenethylamines I've tried it with (mescaline, 2C-I, and 2C-E).
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Possibly, but I don't have a good connect for lysergamides and the pro-drugs are ridiculous (plus the company now closing down). My connect for phenethylamines is much better. What a weird situation to be in, huh? If I had a stash of LSD I could accurately dose, I'd experiment with it much more. But it all doesn't align nicely, so for now I prefer the phenethylamines I have known and loved. It may sound a lil' wook - and it is - but a psychonaut friend of mine (who is quite connected to the tryptamines) told me he feels the phenethylamine character in me. And I can feel the tryptamine spirit in him.

I did try maybe 50 μg of 1T-LSD a couple weeks ago, but I was really biased going in and it was mostly an annoying experience, with a cloudy mind and not too much going on.
 
Does LSD very in quality/purity? I think the most common answer to this question "LSD is LSD, the rest is just marketing", implying all tabs are basically the same and very only in potency (assuming it's real LSD). I know the crystals themselves very in their quality, maybe there's an actual difference between batches? I can testify that when I switch batches there's a noticable difference, some tabs take longer to take effect, some are more euphoric, some give "cleaner trips" and some give "infinite thought loops".
 
Swim21 said:
Does LSD very in quality/purity? I think the most common answer to this question "LSD is LSD, the rest is just marketing", implying all tabs are basically the same and very only in potency (assuming it's real LSD). I know the crystals themselves very in their quality, maybe there's an actual difference between batches? I can testify that when I switch batches there's a noticable difference, some tabs take longer to take effect, some are more euphoric, some give "cleaner trips" and some give "infinite thought loops".
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I have a big vial with 2C-B. Nice and pure. I've often taken the exact same dose. Sometimes it is entactogenic, sometimes it is introspective, sometimes it is entirely surprising. Every trip is different. Whenever I think "that's it, I've seen it all that 2C-B has to offer", I'm surprised by my next trip yet being totally different. All with the same material, often the same dose.

I'd think LSD is even more of a wildcard, and suggestion goes a long way to influence a psychedelic trip. Don't underestimate the role of your expectation.

Does this exclude the possibility that some impurities are active on their own and modulate the experience? No. But unless we all get our tabs analytically tested, meticulously record experiences and going in blind (i.e. with no knowledge of the identity of the LSD and its purity), there is no clear pattern to emerge.

Here is a suggestion for you: if you think you have two batches of LSD which you think have similar potency but different qualitative effects, let a friend help you pack them into capsules so you can't see into them. Let your friend note which tab is in which and non-descriptively mark them A, B, C, ... or something. Note the experience of each capsule and once you have gone through this stash, check back with your friend to see if the pattern you expected emerges.
 
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GulpingBatteryLiquid said:
Yeah the dosage on dark web tabs is obvious bullshit. Every tab on there is listed 200-300ug, possibly more, which is very unlikely. The dealers are in a sort of fraud arms race because if one dealer gives the actual strength of his tabs nobody will buy them, considering that there are tabs advertised as 3x stronger for the same price.

As far as I know the prodrugs you can get on the clearweb are accurately dosed though
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I'm sure there is a lot of vendors that lie about the dosage, but in my experience comparing potency with clearweb LSD analogues such as LSZ, LSB, and AL LAD, some are bang on.
They are not the cheapest usually.
 
Phobos said:
I'm sure there is a lot of vendors that lie about the dosage, but in my experience comparing potency with clearweb LSD analogues such as LSZ, LSB, and AL LAD, some are bang on.
They are not the cheapest usually.
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Agreed. My ALD-52, 1Cp-LSD & 1V-LSD seemed accurately dosed (subtracting the weight of the extra bulk molecule). With them I could have visuals with morphing etc from just what was equivalent to 50 - 60 mcg of LSD.

GGs mostly seemed accurately dosed, and from what I hear Dr.S. are as well. I so recall listening to a discussion with Nick Sand about effect of purity. And IIRC ha said that ISO-LSD was completely inactive in the amounts that may be on a tab, thus purity not influencing the trip. That was in his old days, and as he used to be a bit OCD about making as pure product as possible, he should know what he talked about.
 
xdrc said:
Possibly, but I don't have a good connect for lysergamides and the pro-drugs are ridiculous (plus the company now closing down). My connect for phenethylamines is much better.
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Are you in North America if I may ask? In Europe phenetylamines (2C-x's and mescaline analogues) have become much too scarce for my taste, while LSD and its anlogues have been plentiful since 2016/17.
 
PsychedelicSummer said:
Agreed. My ALD-52, 1Cp-LSD & 1V-LSD seemed accurately dosed (subtracting the weight of the extra bulk molecule). With them I could have visuals with morphing etc from just what was equivalent to 50 - 60 mcg of LSD.

GGs mostly seemed accurately dosed, and from what I hear Dr.S. are as well. I so recall listening to a discussion with Nick Sand about effect of purity. And IIRC ha said that ISO-LSD was completely inactive in the amounts that may be on a tab, thus purity not influencing the trip. That was in his old days, and as he used to be a bit OCD about making as pure product as possible, he should know what he talked about.
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I think the issue with Iso-LSD is that when the synth is finishes, LSD is mixed with the inactive Iso-LSD.
If the tabs are dosed at 110ug of this LSD+Iso-LSD mix, there will be less than 110ug of LSD in each tab.

So to counter this the people laying the sheets should have the batch tested and account for Iso LSD when preparing the solution.
 
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I was able to actually feel a "baseline" 100ug when I was able to get liquid LSD in a vial.

Definitely stronger than tabs on the street listed as 100, but the difference isn't insane. I can't believe there are tabs being advertised as 600ug, that is ridiculous.

The most I have done was 800ug along with 250-300mg ketamine IM and that sent me to fucking space, I was shooting acid demons with fingerguns
 
Quasimoto said:
podclips.com

Hamilton Morris: A Blotter Almost Never Contains 100 Micrograms of LSD

PT268 Hamilton Morris PCP, 5-MeO-DMT, and The Synthesis of New Psychedelics
podclips.com podclips.com

(3 min audio clip)
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This is a great clip. "You can't ever take less"

After expirencing 1p-lsd (100mcg) alone , a few times, then one time with thc cannabis with soul mate, its much preferred solo. thc almost blurred where we couldnt feel it or didnt relize we took it. Unsure about cbd cannabis and lsd
 
Swim21 said:
Does LSD very in quality/purity? I think the most common answer to this question "LSD is LSD, the rest is just marketing", implying all tabs are basically the same and very only in potency (assuming it's real LSD). I know the crystals themselves very in their quality, maybe there's an actual difference between batches? I can testify that when I switch batches there's a noticable difference, some tabs take longer to take effect, some are more euphoric, some give "cleaner trips" and some give "infinite thought loops".
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I thought that for years - that acid was acid till I found DS 3 acid. There's a massive difference between DS and almost any other acid. That's from someone who has taken acid every weekend for at least a decade

A guy involved in making acid - forget his name - fat guy that meditates naked in the orange sunshine film said "You HAVE to get the purity over 99% - its important it makes a big difference". Less annoying bodyload and its easier to get to sleep afterwards.
 
drugsdata.org - which mainly features test results from Switzerland and Austria, and overwhelmingly on ecstasy pills - actually suggests a good deal of the acid going around is well above the 100 microgram range, often above 200.
 
there was(is? lost all my TOR bookmarks) someone who tested all the DNM´s Acid and for the most known ones had like max 10% margin error of promised iirc
 
there was thicker white paper around that had a couple hundred ugs or more on some parts of the sheets back in the early 2000's in the NE USA, or maybe it was just my town... with my experience with lsd analogues from the canadian sites that were pretty accurate, there might've even been more on the tabs than that..

i sometimes hear people claiming you can fit up to a mg on a tab, so you never really know what you are getting. some tabs are thicker than others, but i've even got those thicker white tabs with out a lot of ugs on them.... there's a ton of underdosed or fake stuff people get... i got some tabs from three different people in the parking lot of a "the dead" show, grateful dead with out jerry garcia, and the tabs were all like 30-50 ugs if anything at all on them, and i even bought a blank sheet... i've heard about people getting tabs from gamma goblin or dr. suess or whatever from the dark web. i hear some people say they aren't always legit and there are a lot of imitators that don't nearly have as much on them... i didn't try either of those, but the only tab i got from the dark web was probably 75ugs, and it felt just like 1p.. i feel like some acid i get from the street might be a little different, but my friend claims all the lsd that comes through our dealers is just al-lad, which a lot of people claim is a smoother trip with less of a intense body high.. idk.
 
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