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PandaGun

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I have been talking to my mum about acid and apparently when her Uni mates took a lot of samples of LSD from various dealers to the lab they turned out to be mostly mephamphetamines (giving very mild hallucinations). This was back in her day so around the late 70's/80's.
Living in London it's very easy to get LSD however this has got me wondering about some of the stuff I pick up. Remembering back to a trip I had with just me and my mate it pretty much just kept us awake and talking in the 'acid' way but having little to no hallucinations, patterns or bright colours etc. also coming back to have my mum say your a little too sped up to be on true LSD. Apparently LSD is mainly visuals and less in your head as opposed to shrooms.. Quote my mother.
What is your say on the abundancy of True LSD and how can you tell if it is acid or 2c-i, broma etc
 
PandaGun said:
I have been talking to my mum about acid and apparently when her Uni mates took a lot of samples of LSD from various dealers to the lab they turned out to be mostly mephamphetamines (giving very mild hallucinations). This was back in her day so around the late 70's/80's.
Living in London it's very easy to get LSD however this has got me wondering about some of the stuff I pick up. Remembering back to a trip I had with just me and my mate it pretty much just kept us awake and talking in the 'acid' way but having little to no hallucinations, patterns or bright colours etc. also coming back to have my mum say your a little too sped up to be on true LSD. Apparently LSD is mainly visuals and less in your head as opposed to shrooms.. Quote my mother.
What is your say on the abundancy of True LSD and how can you tell if it is acid or 2c-i, broma etc
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You can tell when it's LSD because...well...you just can. There's nothing else like it. You may do some other things first until you get the real thing, but once you get it, you'll KNOW. It has a sparkle unlike any other. The creme de la creme.
 
In my experience, the best way to determine if it is LSD or not is by the timeline of effects.

If within an hour after I took it I am uncontrollably laughing at just about everything, then about an hour from that point I am peaking, and then about 6 to 8 hours from then I am down enough to continue my normal day to day life, though may still be feeling some residual effects including some visual patterning, but very faint.

By this point it is usually early as fuck in the morning (like 7 or 8 am (we would drop at night time when our parents were sleeping , we were pretty young durring most of our tripping life) and we would try to go to sleep. It would never fail for ME that when falling asleep I would hear auditory hallucinations of people laughing and just having a fun time. I would never get auditory hallucinations until I tried to go to sleep though....

Anyways the point is that the timeline and effects will definitely help you to determine if its acid. There is more to it then that of course, but its been almost a decade since i have eaten acid, so I dont think i am the best qualified to go more into detail.


By the way, that post sounds like your mother is talking out her ass (making it up to scare you from taking it, or for some strange egoistic purposes).

But I wont go as far as to say she IS making it up. That would just be rude.
 
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There is no way blotters could contain enough meth to be active. Id say if you trip of a blotter it was a reserch chemical or lsd, and if you have done both it should be really easy to tel IMO.
 
The Hebrew Hammer said:
In my experience, the best way to determine if it is LSD or not is by the timeline of effects.

If within an hour after I took it I am uncontrollably laughing at just about everything, then about an hour from that point I am peaking, and then about 6 to 8 hours from then I am down enough to continue my normal day to day life, though may still be feeling some residual effects including some visual patterning, but very faint.

By this point it is usually early as fuck in the morning (like 7 or 8 am (we would drop at night time when our parents were sleeping , we were pretty young durring most of our tripping life) and we would try to go to sleep. It would never fail for ME that when falling asleep I would hear auditory hallucinations of people laughing and just having a fun time. I would never get auditory hallucinations until I tried to go to sleep though....

Anyways the point is that the timeline and effects will definitely help you to determine if its acid. There is more to it then that of course, but its been almost a decade since i have eaten acid, so I dont think i am the best qualified to go more into detail.


By the way, that post sounds like your mother is talking out her ass (making it up to scare you from taking it, or for some strange egoistic purposes).

But I wont go as far as to say she IS making it up. That would just be rude.
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6-8 hours and you're ready to be normal? I guess this is what I was saying in another post yesterday about taking times with trip reports with a grain of salt. LSD hits the peak around hours 6-8. If you can function normally, you probably got weak LSD. At this point my entire field of vision is one big visual.


I think his mom sounds fairly experienced. Shrooms are quite a mindfuck, and LSD is much more visual. I can attest that DOx makes me feel much 'too sped up' to be LSD.
 
No one is going to confuse methamp with lsd.

Even if people did put meth on blotter you'd need to eat a fair few.

Any hallucinations from meth use are going to be from over use & lack of sleep. I.e. you'll see people out of the corner of your eye who aren't there. You're not going to get bright colours, fractals & other imagery.

Oh yeah, & meth doesn't make you trip...
 
The OP said methamphetamines, plural, including MDMA which can be a little trippy. There is also no mention of blotters so it might have been in liquid or pills or whatever.
Still there are some things not making complete sense..

What I can agree with to some extent though is that LSD is less mindfucking than mushrooms, it is much clearer in the head and a dose of 100 ug or just below is indeed mostly mild visuals. In heftier doses though it can get just as mental!

About the abundance of real acid: that very much depends on where you live. If real LSD is scarce but there is a market for it then more fakes may appear, on blotters though not everything fits on there as was already suggested, of the more common psychedelics only DOX would be expected on there and somewhat less likely: 5-MeO-AMT.

I have personally never been given blotters containing something else than acid,
and how do I know what I got? Well I either got it tested in the lab and/or noticed the limited duration and the absence of any bodyload / presence of a visceral very typical body energy - current. Not amphetamine like at all. Rather like feeling your life energy.
 
It is easier when you have experience with other tryptamines; I find the 'tryptamine character' of LSD to be pretty prominent at higher doses. At lower doses, its more transparent and still quite stimulating, but I don't think I could easily confuse it with many other things at this point. Particularly meth. If you have ever taken a non-tryptamine psychedelic, you will notice much that is not present in LSD, and in every tryptamine, I find a dash of psilocin and a dash of LSD and a dash of all the other DMT variations.
 
^lol
You probably took a LOW dose of a DOx compound, then again ya it could easily be a 2c-x (depending on how short the duration was), if not just a standard baseline dose of LSD.
 
DexterMeth said:
^lol
You probably took a LOW dose of a DOx compound, then again ya it could easily be a 2c-x (depending on how short the duration was), if not just a standard baseline dose of LSD.
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I don't think a dose of 2c can fit on a blotter. Just sayin'.
 
cryptix420 said:
6-8 hours and you're ready to be normal? I guess this is what I was saying in another post yesterday about taking times with trip reports with a grain of salt. LSD hits the peak around hours 6-8.
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lol i start coming down at the 6-9 hour mark depending on dose. i know im taking LSD-25 (confirmed ~110mic of fluff per hit) so you're completely wrong man :P
 
im not totally down by that time frame....

But down enough to where I could go into work, drive without feeling like im endangering someones life, talk to parents who dont aprove of drug use etc....

And its not at 8 hours after i take it....

its 8 hours after im peaking (which usually starts about 2 hours in for me)

So its actually around 10 hours for the trip time
 
Are you sure your mum didn't say some kinda amphetamine instead of methamphetamine?

Phenethylamines (DOx & 2C-x) are considered psychedelic amphetamines, so she could've just messed the story up a bit, as it was a while ago.

Probably DOx from back then - STP was pretty common.

Regarding your situation, it just sounds like weak acid - I've found (weak) acid to be pretty speedy myself, and it had exactly the right time frame AND dilated my pupils to fuck, which no other psychedelic does.

And also your mum saying that LSD is not so much in your head - well thats just her case of YMYV.
 
Ok yeah, to clear things up. The acid I get is in fact in a sugar cube form so could fit a fair amount of a liquid inside it. Occasionally it is completely clear and looks like a normal cube of sugar with a malibu taste. Other times there is a clear brown stain from the dosage. When it is
stained that's when i wonder as it is a large stain..

Mephamphetamins can be used at very low dosage as far as I know.. The meph bit making it concentrated?
And my Mum does know what she is talking about, one of those mums that seems to know too much in every field of knowledge possible! She wouldn't bother trying to scare me from something anymore she beleives that it's my choice to do what I want with my life.. More advisory..
But yes I'm guessing the fractal/pattern visuals are a sure way to tell, what with patterns in patterns inside more patterns a bit like a pans labyrinth in someones eye! Also the 'magic' of tripping and just knowing all hell is breaking loose and the feeling of your brain being kicked against a corner and repeatedly being 'mind-raped'.

Also can you build up an actual tolerance to acid? Not just for a week but rather a long lasting tolerance say a month or so?
 
PandaGun said:
Definately Meph/Meth-Amphetamines
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What do you mean "meph/meth- amphetamines"? There is no such thing as "meph-amphetamine".

"Meph" is short for mephedrone, aka 4-methylmethcathinone:

mephedrone-4-mmc-4-methylmethcathinone.jpg


This is methamphetamine:

methamphetamine.gif


Methamphetemine is never sold as LSD. You can't fit enough of it on a blotter or in a drop of liquid in order to have an effect. If you tried to dose a sugar cube with a methamphetamine solution, the cube would dissolve because you would need to use a relatively large volume of water.

Apparently your mother is misinformed.
 
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