Troubles speaking after k binges

[RCmaster]

In the recent months I've dived deep into the land of K. I've loved every minute of it but noticed my tolerance went up dramatically and after several weeks of not using my tolerance doesn't seem to change. Just this past sunday me and four friends ran through 9 vials over a night. I didn't realize we had done anywhere near this amount til a friend told me in the morning. Has anyone else noticed after a big K binge like that one it becomes extremely difficult to comunicate. For me I know exactly what I want to say but my brain has trouble making my toungue work right. I was wondering if anyone could shed light on why this maybe. Also I am looking to test methoxetamine in the near future has anyone had similar issues with this substance?

 

[Jabberwocky]

Hi RCmaster, Welcome to Bluelight

We'll give this a try in Psychedelic Drugs as it is the forum with the most ketamine interest and knowledge.

Homeless----------------------------------------->PD

 

[lurching]

from what i've read, this is pretty common. i've never pushed the boat out very far with ket myself, but even on lower doses i get this weird phenomena of searching-for-the-word-that-is-on-the-tip-of-your-tongue.

would be nice to know what mechanism causes this..

 

[Albion]

You'll experience the same problems on methoxetamine. I always found it very hard to say anything coherent for a significant amount of time. The disjointed and illogical state your brain is in is reflected through how you speak.

I'd find if I could say a sentence, I would have all the right words, but I'd say them in completely the wrong order. Think once I said something like 'We work star wars watched at'...Right words, hopelessly muddled.

 

[ThanksLois]

Havn't had K but after high or stacked doses of MXE it takes me a lot of effort to even speak at all, my words get cut off and I just can't form sentences.
Pretty annoying, takes a couple hours to fully go away too

 

[Survived Abortion]

Ah no! I used to be afflicted by this terribly during my ketmaine days. And it was a source of great embarassment for me after a session, as the people I would trip with never seemed to be affected in the same way. It would manifest on the way in and out of a hole, before I would hit the 'event horizon', and especially after emerging and between holes. I would often be trying my very best to communicate with my peers, willing the words to come out of my mouth, but it would feel like such hard work, and most of what I attempted to say would be garbled and lost in translation. It's like those strange dreams where you are trying to run or fly but can only inch forward, or trying to defend yourself in a fight and your punch is pathetic. During some of my deepest sessions, hours would go by with no talk because the ability just wasn't there.

I believe it has something to do with the feedback mechanism from your mouth being interrupted or misinterpreted. The user psood0nym would be able to tell you more about this. It has something to do with the way the dissociative anaesthetics work by coincidence detection. Needless to say, it's a very frustrating experience in the company of others, which is probably to do with trying to hold on to what makes you 'you' and the embarassment of not being in control.

 

[sekio]

K is an anesthetic, don't do so much if you need to function? Especially after a K-hole dose your body is going to feel pretty strange; ketamine has a really broad spectrum of effects and most of them are antagonistic to conciousness.

 

[Solipsis]

It's quite normal, I get a speech impairment even when the binge is not that excessive.
Ketamine acts on the NMDA receptors by blocking interaction of the glutamate that is supposed to go in there. The function that is getting blocked is associated with language, memory, 'normal thinking operations', knowledge (of the world and of yourself, thus your identity / ego) and a lot of other things like that.
When I do ketamine beyond a certain point I am really unable to understand language or how to use a keyboard or mouse, etc.

 

[TheAppleCore]

These PCP-related dissociative drugs are very psychologically toxic (not to mention physiologically) if overused. Great caution must be used. "Binging" on ketamine is dangerous -- period. You have seen the consequences, and have been warned...