Trouble-shooting Opiates

[Kelterne]

Hey guys,
I've been lurking this site for a few years but after some frustration have decided to post.

I'm not a regular user of opiates, tried them a couple years ago and hadn't touched them since for fear of addiction. First time, I popped 15 mg percocets; second time, I parachuted 25 mg hydrocodone. Both times got me sky high.

Either way, I've come across some more and have wanted to reactive that high once more. I don't intend on starting these habitually, but after trying to get the same effects I've encountered problems.

First I tried 15 mg hydrocodone orally to essentially no effect. I figured I'd catch a buzz but nothing. Next night, I tried upping the dose a little and tried ~25 mg Hydrocodone. Again, nothing. two days later, I tried 15 mg Oxy and 7.5 Hydro, and again...not much. Felt a little this time, got a few itches, but I didn't find that blissful, near orgasmic experience I once had.

Im 20, weigh about 165 lbs, and, like I said, shouldn't have a tolerance.
Now, these drugs are a year of two expired, but I read that for the most part, that doesn't matter. I haven't tried a CWE, but think I might next time. Any advice? How many mgs Hydro should I try to go? Am I missing something, or is that blissful high really just a first-few times thing?

Note: I have been taking 0.1mg clonidine to sleep at night, theres no way this could cause a cross-tolerance, is there?

 

[T. Calderone]

If you don't take oxy or hydro frequently, I'm surprised that you didn't feel much from 25 mg. Now if you took it with your clonidine, it would likely make you more sleepy and enhance the nod. But during the day, I don't find they affect each other. You might be one of those people who don't feel opiate euphoria easily. Try the CWE next time maybe 30-40 mg and see how it goes. Welcome to Bluelight and be safe!

 

[Jevx]

I find it very hard to get a good fix off of opiates these days. Their not strong and the APAP that is included is horrible. TBH nothing under 30 mgs will do anything for me unless I throw a few beers in the mix. I don?t recommend this if your not use to taking these substances but after a while you will build a tolerance that doesn?t seem to go away (at least for me) Cold water extraction is your best bet for weaker pills. YouTube will show you the way lol Hope this helps!

 

[Kelterne]

Tried the CWE at 25 mgs and potentiated it with grapefruit juice. Currently on that now. I definitely feel something when I'm laying still, but it's not nearly as pronounced as it was when I first tried hydro. I think I'm just going to give up for the time being--I don't want to get myself addicted to these drugs simply chasing a high. Frustrating, but thats how it goes.