Trouble breathing on Suboxone

[Jason1981]

So I have been getting out of breath really easily lately. I'm not out of shape and its not like me unless I'm having a panic attack or something. Maybe I have been smoking to many cigs lately. Since I stopped herion I started smoking way more. Ive been on suboxone for 2 months. Its <snip> for me to fill my prescription I've lost my job and can barely afford it. Then a few days ago I get a bill from my doctor. <A lot of> dollars for Suboxone treatment. He never mentioned it to me and if I knew this I would have just stopped heroin cold turkey. I decided I needed to get off of it so I stopped taking it. Please don't preach how dumb it was for me to do this I already know. I stopped 4 days ago along with my klonopin. First 3 days I felt great. This morning minor wd starrting and tonight it got bad. At 10 I took 4mg sub. Its now midnight and I feel totally fucked up like an opiate high. I was used to the subs and felt nothing from them before I stopped. Well now I'm taking really slow deep breaths its kinda hard to breathe. I dunno if I'm just getting myself worked up I have a tendency to do that or I should be concerned ? Again I know I was stupid to try and get off subs alone I just can't afford this and that secret <high> bill I got for treatment really pissed me off. I don't have the kind of doc I can just call and tell him. Its kinda scary. I hope this is just a panic attack but like I said I've been getting out of breath lately. I really don't wanna go to the er over this. Any feedback would be apprieciated. I will say the first time I took sub I had a hard time breathing I just can't remember if it was this bad. Thank u fellow bluelighters.

 

[Jason1981]

Not to mention I had a talk today about people mixing drugs and not waking up so that probably didn't help. I did take my blood pressure medicine today and neurontin but my doc said they were fine and I never had trouble like this

 

[cj]

i think youll be fine sounds like your stressed out and maybe having benzo withdrawl? Benzo withdrawl can make you irrational and paranoid really shouldnt stop the kolonopin C/T. but by all means if you really think ur in trouble go to the hospital.

 

[Jason1981]

Well I'm out of klonopins. Trust me id much rather have them then subs but my doc cut me off then. He said because of history of addiction (like he has room to talk he has had me on benzos for 7 years) and me being on sub he doesn't want to give them to me. The withdrawls I got today, the shits, sweating, hot then cold bad muscle aches sotmach cramps are gone. I'm still hot/cold my breathing is just slow now and I'm itching like its the first time its done an opiate. I just feel extremly tired now and feel like I have to puke.

 

[ms4104]

I bet its the benzo withdrawal... that shi tis HORRIBLE. It makes my chest tight panicy anxiety out of breath diahreah body temp fucked sweating my shit out stomach hurts twitching arms imposbile sleep rls.

If you are considering the ER I guarantee its benzo withdrawal...thats the only time I think like that..I feel like crazy bad crying suicidal not to mention all the above shit. It makes me panic and not be able to think straight. I bite all my cuticles lol.

Also so you are out of bupe? Can you get 1 more script so you can taper off a bit? or are you planning to not pay the <bill>. dO YOU have insurance? If so, you can try to see if your insurance will cover the <bill>.. Even if your doc wont accept the insurance sometimes you can submit the bill to your own insurance.. it;'s worth a shot.

I really wouldn't try to go through bupe and benzo wtihdrawal at the same time.. thats really a deadly combo bro you coul dhave a grand mal seizure and shit wake up like under your desk shat you rself alone and crap. yYou were on benzos for 7 years and you ddint get to taper off? How much were you using? You could die from benzo withdrawal. You may have to go tot eh ER and get a diazepam script or somethign temporary then they can refer you. Even with a history of addiction they cant cut you right off thats insane.

 

[effie]

Hi there, I'm really sorry to hear about that! Firstly - if you feel like you are fucked up on opioids and are struggling to breathe, it is important to get some medical help ASAP. If you are concerned enough to post on here, you should get yourself checked out - we can't tell how you are over the internet and we are not a medical advice forum (even if we were it's no substitute for being checked out face to face...) It's unusual but not impossible to have respiratory depression from Suboxone, especially mixed with other things. Please be safe


As for stopping your Subs due to the bill..I don't know much about healthcare in the US so I can't really advise you on this area, I'm sorry...

However I do agree that to stop it abruptly, especially at the same time as stopping benzos, is not a good idea.. as said above, benzo cold turkey can cause seizures and kill you, and I imagine going through opioid and benzo withdrawal all at once is horrible. If you feel really unwell, I would recommend going to the ER, and definitely speaking to your insurance company or trying to find another doctor who can manage a taper for you..

Good luck

 

[Jason1981]

Well I feel fine now. Except I can't drink anything. Everytime I drink some water or gatoraide I can barely make to the toliet. Last time the closed place was the back door so I ran out and puked. My breathing is normal and I'm laying in bed so I don't feel sick anymore but when I stand up I feel like I gotta puke. I've detoxed off klonopin before... On accident. I went to a detox center for heroin and they didn't give anybody benzos. If u came in there for something else and they found out u take benzos they gave u a stupid phenobarb taper then neurontin. Well my doc put me back on klonopins which was fine with me because I have horrible panic attacks. I do have one refill left they can't fill it to the 24th so yea I took more then what I was suppose to but that's not to long. I took more because when I get drunk and I did a few times the past month the next day my hangovers give me such bad anxiety and panic attacks id pop them through out the day. I can afford this sub script getting it tomorrow. As far as the 500 I don't know. That's some bullshit he never told me this. I have anthem blue cross. I should just go on medicare. Hey thanks for caring ms. Really soinds like u do

 

[Jason1981]

Hey effie we must have been posting at the same time. Thanks for your consern to. I see this post was read over 150 sometimes and u and ms only replied. As u can read again I get my benzos in 7 days so hopefully ill be ok. I have anti seizure medicine so I've been taking that to. I feel totally fine in my bed. I'm breathing and don't feel sick anymore. Just tired but it is going on 6am

 

[effie]

I'm glad you are feeling okay don't hesitate to get some help if you needed it though!

Good luck

 

[Jason1981]

Thank you

 

[ms4104]

You should call insurance see if your doctors name is listed and if he accepts your insurance. I have heard that it's against insurance company policies for doctors to say cash only when they cover your insurance.

I read someone say that their doctor was charging for suboxone, they called blue cross blue sheild and they said the doc is not allowed to do that.. bcbs actually called the doctor and told him he was breaking the rules. Now different insurance companies have different policies but I am willing to bet you can get it covered either directly throug hhim or by submitting it as a claim to your insurance after youve paid him and hoping for the best.

And about the benzos worst case go to the ER tell them your situation..you get a refill in 7 days etc.. it doesn't matter if your an addict.. they will bridge the gap atleast with a minimal dose to stave off seizures. Like you could try to find a doctor just to assist you in tapering off using diazepam or something..but it;s tough who nkows if it would be easy or hard to find a doc like that.

Anyway bro good luck hit me up any time man

 

[Jason1981]

I just feel like its opiate wd all over again I'm on day 2 of being back on my suboxone but I keep puking. I know what I felt like when I was going thru benzo wd and this feels like opiate wd to me. The chills and then hot especially the puking. It started when I started back on subs yesterday.