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Mr Blonde
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Mugz
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any experiences are apreciated ![]()
thanks for the link btw, but I was thinking more about its recreational value than painkillingCanis aureus
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mad_scientist
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3-(p-Fluorobenzoyl)tropaneMugz
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Ham-milton
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IlostaMadge
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Can I judge the anaesthetic effect of the compound by it's numbing effect on nasal passages and gums? Or are there other absorption factors that come into it?
If the answer to the first question is yes, then FTC is not anywhere near as potent an anaesthetic.Ham-milton
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I was pretty sure I've seen a study that showed them equal in that respect. My collection is more than a little messy right now (I need to re-name them all).
perhaps FnB could chime in, I'm pretty sure he's familiar with this better than I am.IlostaMadge
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I was told it was the citrate salt, but got it NMR analysed and it apparently isn't, I was also told it formed into the HCL really badly, is there any reason for this?
I still suspect it's the citrate or some kind of highly acidic salt due to it burning like crazy and causing hefty acid reflux upon oral consumption. Plugging was effective though, didn't burn, but I had a healthy amount of alkali in solution and was ready to run for the nearest porcelain shrine just in case.
Is there any reason why I can't buffer it down and plug, or would I freebase the FTC by doing this with a weak alkaline?
I should really attempt to change to a HCL salt, but am awaiting the analysis of a chemist friend before attempting any further experiments.Jabberwocky
Frumious Bandersnatch
IlostaMadge
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As for "bleh @ coke" I agree, but FTC is a lot less potent and longer lasting, a smooth long euphoric mood lift and confidence boost with no noticable crash, a lot more like a stronger shorter Desoxypipradrol than any cocaine I have ever touched, certainly with the massive ego boosting effect, whilst I am sure this will mean the chemical is never going to be that popular on the rc scene, it is certainly a lot better from my perspective.
The analysis of my FTC confirmed very high purity by the way, so I don't doubt the product in question. I would like to know of other ways to test the anaesthesia, apply it in solution over a bruise or scrape and test the painkilling effect?fastandbulbous
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As far as effects go, I've seen plenty of cocaine users who have preferred fluorotropacocaine to their usual indulgence, so it's obviously got something quite impressive about it. As to the ego-boosting, it made me just as unbearable and obnoxious as cocaine does, hence my decision to avoid the stuff in the future...B9
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I used it intranasally & there was no anesthetic affect whatsoever.IlostaMadge
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As far as effects go, I've seen plenty of cocaine users who have preferred fluorotropacocaine to their usual indulgence, so it's obviously got something quite impressive about it. As to the ego-boosting, it made me just as unbearable and obnoxious as cocaine does, hence my decision to avoid the stuff in the future...
What salt form did you try if you know? What MOA did you use and if it was nasal, how much did it burn?
Really strange that there doesn't seem to be anything in the RC world that can replace coke, besides some unusual euphoric cathinones like NEP but those have very different effects overall.
What would happen if you replace the tropane with something similar like norbornane? Add a few methyl groups or something similar in the right 3d orientation to the norbornane and it could get the same bulk as tropane? Somehow I always have a feeling that there could be great compounds that use norbornane in their structure, just from the fact how compounds like Fencamfamine, Camphetamine or even just Camphor effect the body and mind.izo
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