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Opioids Tried powder heroin for first time

Ashley26

Ashley26

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Hey all,

I know some of you saw my thread discussing me getting powder heroin for first time and my reservation on inhaling it. Well I finally tried last night and I must say I was underwhelmed. I usually take 80-120mg of oxy orally to feel nice.

I started with a few small bumps and didn't feel much so moved to a small line. While I felt different, I did not get that warm opiate buzz that I love so much. The sniffles went away and I felt sleepy and somewhat relaxed but no euphoria at all. 2 hours later I did another small line and felt even worse. Not only did I have no buzz, but my heart starting beating harder for about 5 minutes and I got extremely sweaty and anxious. My friend who used from the same bag, IV, was nodding like crazy.

After that I popped a few oxy and got what I was looking for. Any ideas what might be up? I had that nasty tasting drip after the lines that everyone discussed but like I said, I was really disappointed. Any pointers for next time let me know!

Thanks :)
 
The other thing that has been odd is I last used oxy at 830pm yesterday after also doing those few lines and I've had no withdrawal symptoms all day. Usually by this time (645) I'd be feeling pretty damn crappy and all over had today is 20mg of hydrocodone which of course does nothing with my tolerance. I'm beginning to wonder if there was anything else cut with the heroin. I am down to my last 4 oxys which I'll be taking tonight then go back on subs so i'm hoping there was nothing else it, ie methadone, that has a long half life.

Thanks everyone!
 
A lot of people that switch from a high dose of oxycodone to heroin are underwhelmed with heroin at first too. It's usually just a matter of finding the right dose. Also, when you sniff it you should be sniffing very lightly, just enough for it to get into your nasal cavity. If too much drips down into your stomach then you will be wasting part of it since the oral BA is so low.

Another explanation is that you just don't like heroin as much as oxycodone. Heroin is just another opiate really, and we all have our preferences when it comes to opiates. One persons least favorite opiate is another persons most favorite, and everything in between.
 
BOOM exactly. Not all persons like the same kind of opiates. Or get the same effects.
Morphine for me is garbage. I'd assume heroin would be similar but I've never tried it. And I love oxy like you.

Heroin might just not be your thing.
 
Yeah, it's crazy how variable the rate is for people tolerating opiates.

Morphine? Garbage? Makes absolutely no sense to me. The two words don't belong anywhere near eachother IMO.

Some people claim to get rushes from IV oxycodone, I don't think it's really possible. But we have to accept that everyone's bodies process opiates differently (and with the IV-oxycodone issue, this is REALLY hard for me, as I am convinced they are confusing immediate onset with a rush).

I agree with the poster above me, heroin is probably not for you.
 
I can totally relate

While my 'per dose' tolerance to Oxy isn't quite as high, about 60-90mg for me to get a strong high going, I know exactly what you mean.

The first time I tried snorting H I absolutely hated it. At first I felt nothing, did more, started feeling heavy and tired, did a little more, was completely dysphoric, agitated, and had a very high body load with slightly labored breathing. My best buddy was snorting from the same batch and was high as a kite. It was completely crazy to me. The next day I tried again and just couldn't find a sweet spot, nor anything to really like about it. It just made me feel heavy and sedated without much euphoria.

I personally think if you're used to pharmaceutical opiates, sniffing H is a waste. You'll need to IV to get that euphoric rush we're all looking for. My body is just programmed for Oxycodone too. I get so much damned uncontrolled euphoria from that drug I have no idea how anything could ever come close. Surprisingly enough, if I dose about 1mg of Klonopin and 250-300mg of Tramadol, I'm able to achieve a decent amount of euphoria also. But Dilauded snorted, H snorted, and Hydrocodone eaten did absolutely NOTHING for me.

It's really true, we're ALL different in our drug preferences. I could rail Oxy all night and have the best night of my life. Others say Oxy isn't even euphoric for them, just speedy. It's really crazy.

My advice: forget the dope, it's not worth it unless you IV and you don't want to start IV'ing it. I know a lot of you like snorting H but I think if you're a pillhead like myself and the OP you won't get as much out of sniffing H. Just my 2 cents.
 
SaosinEngaged said:
My advice: forget the dope, it's not worth it unless you IV and you don't want to start IV'ing it. I know a lot of you like snorting H but I think if you're a pillhead like myself and the OP you won't get as much out of sniffing H. Just my 2 cents.
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The majority of heroin users these days started off with prescription pills, and then switch to sniffing H (then if they continue they may switch to IV). Most of the heroin users I know got hooked on pills first, then started sniffing heroin, continued sniffing for close to a year, and then switched to IV. A few of them quite before getting into IVing it, and 1 or 2 of them never switched to IV.

When trying heroin it is very important to start at a low dose and work your way up, but the truth of the matter is that a lot of people under-dose the heroin their first time after switching from pills, because they are expecting a small dose to hit them harder than it will. Depending on location/batch/source the purity of heroin varies widely. Some bags of heroin will feel like 30mg of oxycodone, while others will feel like 100+mg, and that [unknown purity] is what makes it so dangerous.

I do agree that the OP should forget about the dope though. It would be foolish to keep trying heroin until you like it.
 
Thanks for the feedback guys, I only have one and a half bags left and after my experience yesterday I will not be getting again. And quite frankly after the last line I had no interest even finishing what I had. I felt SO anxious and sweaty, it wasn't even fun.

I had no idea so many people didn't also like it, that's helpful to hear. I've tried every pharm opiate and Oxycontin is by far my favorite. I've never snorted or IVed them, only taken orally and never plan too... Oral is enough. It's so interesting how different our bodies are!

If only Oxys were cheaper!! This habit it far too expensive...

Also, does heroin have a long half life? I was shocked that I had no withdrawal symptoms today at all, usually by 24 hours I do not feel good at all. If anything I'm glad I didn't like it. I was scared as all he'll to even try it and now that it sacked I have no interest in ever using it again! Vicodin was a better high than that.

Thanks again everyone for all your information in this post and my previous one last week! :-)
 
^ Heroin has a short half-life, but you probably didn't get sick for a while since you took more opiates than usual. It's just like how a low dose of oxy won't keep you from getting sick as long as a high dose of oxy would.
 
Tommyboy said:
^ Heroin has a short half-life, but you probably didn't get sick for a while since you took more opiates than usual. It's just like how a low dose of oxy won't keep you from getting sick as long as a high dose of oxy would.
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Makes sense. Thanks for the info!

Sounds like it's the best thing for me that I'm too scared to ever IV. I have a feeling I'd be in love after that
 
Yeah plugging is a much safer alternative to IV, and for those with needle fetish, learn to reduce your fetish to syringe fetish. Basically all the same ritual until the point of administration.
 
tricomb said:
Yeah plugging is a much safer alternative to IV, and for those with needle fetish, learn to reduce your fetish to syringe fetishes, . Basically all the same ritual until the point of administration.
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I just don't know if I can ever stick a drug up my bum just to get high. Inhaling was scary enough! Then again, if you told me 5 years ago that I would be snorting heroin I would have told you that you were crazy. :-\
 
I dont get how people can put a needle in their arm, but not plug. But yeah it's not for everyone, but for those with an open mind, it has a high bioavailability and very rapid onset.
 
^ haha, I know man, good point. I for some reason was "afraid" to plug for years, but after aquiring some amphetamine salts and not wanting to shoot any more pills, I decided to give it a go, and it was pretty good. I still prefer I.V with some drugs, but with other's, rectal administration is superior IMO (I'm thinking buprenorphine for one).

Like many others have said, a lot of people are underwhelmed by their first experience with heroin, especially if they've been using other narcotics like oxycodone or hydromorphone beforehand. I think that user's get the idea that heroin is somehow incredibly different, that the euphoria it induces is somehow wayyy crazier than other painkillers that are actually legal by prescription. The truth though is, that heroin is just another opiate, it gets this mythical reputation due to the fact that its highly stygmatized and illegal. Like morphine, it tends to give a more sedated buzz which is sometimes undesirable to those who are used to oxycontin and other thebain derived opiates which produce a more stimulating euphoria. It's also really hard to know off hand how much heroin you're going to need to use to get a buzz when you already have a tolerance, since you never know the purity of your dope.
 
if u dont regularly use heroin and are used to oc's [shorter] halflife thats why u werent sick yet imo. when i first started H instead of OC a dose would last me 24 ish hours till i felt like i might redose and i wasnt even sick yet....when i got used to h it would last [till i felt ANY sickness) about 12-16 hours.. oxy would only last 8-10.with H i wouldnt feel real sick till like 36 hours later at the beginning and i had a heavy habit. this was from snorting the H, lasts longer than IV obviously.

tricomb-
i never thought of plugging as a way to get around my needle fetish. change it to a syringe fetish. thats really smart. ive tried it a couple times but my tolerance was too high for the dose i took. i did about 3/4 a g of heroin and didnt feel it. really pissed me off and felt like i wasted it. whats the BA of H plugged if u kno offhand?

when i try and get off the needle [even tho i dont have a habit, when i do use, i shoot... i cant seem to accept any other ROA] im gonna try and do this. i really enjoy the ritual. half the time when im craving i think about the ritual more than the high.

i always worry one time im going to have waited too long ... been clean too long... and my tolerance will be too low for IV heroin and ill just OD the minute i relapse.
luckily, the longest time ive been clean about 2.5 months, when i relapsed i wound up grabbing AT a hospital lol. so i just fixed half a point there with a friend in the bathroom- i figured it was the best place to be if i dropped. he could just drag me out the door n holler for some narcan. the rush was really intense but i wound up doing a half gram that day so i guess i was plenty fine. nodded to fuck walking around the park all day, couldnt walk a straight line... such good shit...i never get high like that anymore.
why oh why do i do these drugs when i know OD upon initial relapse is a very possible result. ugh.
 
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I highly doubt what you got was (decent) heroin.

I started out with oxycodone as well, and loved it orally/intranasally. I did it for awhile, and the first time I tried H my oxy tolerance was about 80-100mg (like you).

For me, when I started snorting H I fucking loved it (and still do). It was more blissful than oxy and actually lasted 12 hours! Decent to good heroin will not let you down intranasally, trust me.
 
weird, similar thing happened to me yesterday when i did desoxyn for my first time from being a long time amphetamine user... i plugged a good amount, and no euphoria. It was solved later when i simply ate it, and got what i was looking for
 
By the way my withdrawal was awful today compared to yesterday since I didn't use anymore of the heroin. I had the same amount of oxy as usual but Friday I also used the heroin.

Thanks again for all the info over the last week, it's been really helpful!
 
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