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Social Justice Transgender and gender identity discussion

Xorkoth said:
LGBT = Communism?
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LGBT ideology = inter-sectionality = post modernism/neo-marxism.
Did I imagine all those hammer & sickle flags at the trans march? At the gay parade? At the climate rally? No.
The newfangled queer-theory, lgbt ideology poured out from the rabid Marxist professors who have been busily inventing entire new junk-science departments/ journals and courses. i.e Queer studies, Gender Studies, Women's studies, Race studies, Social justice courses abound, all militating for activism.....where their mindless drones (useful idiots) come away as anarco-communists, trans-activists, radical feminists, reparation-seeking descendants of slaves, with all their intersecting oppressions - inter-sectional Marxism. Ready to tear down systemic structures of oppressive capitalistic systems, abolish cis-gender normativity, eradicate toxic masculinity, smash the fucking patriarchy, tear down the border, end racism, sexism, white supremacy, bash the fash mutha fukka yea...damn don't you feel stupid?

This LGTB ideology has you talking on auto-pilot.
I am not talking with shadow. I am talking with an ideologue. Cut it out. You don't represent transsexuals. You only represent yourself.

When you speak of my 'judgment against an entire category of people" what exactly is that? Category of people? Marxism 101. Transsexuals are not a category of people, they are individuals.
There is no LGBT community, no trans community. There are ideologues who have politicized these individuals, without their permission or consent, and you are here parroting their rhetoric.

You ask me if I care about transsexual people? Which one? Which individual are you talking about? They are just people. Each one uniquely different. Why are you militating on their behalf, as though they are all the same?? It is extremely arrogant and entirely self-serving.

Ask me about that aggressive cross-dresser dude in the video...the one that's demanding to be called ma'm. He is an interesting individual. From what I can see, if (for example) he acted like that toward my children, maybe I'll snap his legs off and stick them up his ass. If it's just me there, I'd probably laugh lol lol.

Ask me about the fool pretending to be a muslima. He's harmless and stupid or a very funny troll. If he is genuinely deluded, and asked me for advice, I would tell him plainly that he's not a woman, nor a muslim, and there is absolutely nothing he can do to convince the actual muslims otherwise. Not in a million years.

The problem in that situation is that a man is pretending to be a woman, and expecting others around him to pretend that it is so. He expects others to lie, and complains that they won't do it.
You, being ideologically driven, tried to suggest to me that the problem has to do with religions being strongly gendered or some such non-sense. You are willing to exchange the truth for a lie. Here is my moral judgement for you shadow: Lying is always wrong. Always. Stop lying to yourself, stop lying to others. The last thing any Transsexual needs is more lies, even if lying to them, or about them makes you feel good about yourself.

When you lie about men being women, it causes problems, for example when I come along (all innocent) and speak the truth. You hate that, and project your hate onto me.
Dersch is a HATER, hating an entire category of the LGBT community.

I hate the ideology that makes you act badly. It's not ok to tell lies. It's not ok to hate the truth, or to hate those who refuse to lie.
No man has ever become a woman. Fact. Speak the truth. I don't hate people. I hate lies.
 
I'm just the G in lgbtqy+ so I don't really want to speak for any of the other letters, or even for any other people who identify as Gay because that's their story to tell and not mine.

For me, being gay isn't about living a lie or wishing I had a different body, it's just me being me. I'm not a political agenda but hatred directed at any group is a political agenda of hate. If you can't understand someone's point of view, try placing yourself in their life and imagine what life is like from that view.

Some can't possibly understand the feeling of being born 'wrong' because they never faced the judgement of others. In reality it isn't the sexuality of humans that is the problem, it is the judgment of others.

I can't help you learn not to judge, you need to learn it on your own, if you want peace in your mind and your life.

Humanity is diversity at its maximum, learn to let others be and learn to be content with yourself. The unlikely situations that keep being posted in this thread are hilarious at best but one a lot of people have had to deal with is when their son or daughter comes out and expresses themselves as a new letter of the alphabet. Imagine being so loud and harsh that your own child simply distances themself from you because you can't show love to others over something so simple as they don't feel right in the body they are in.

But I'm not perfect either, I am somewhat repelled by people who have had facial plastic surgery because they are so hard to understand when nothing above the lips moves in a natural way. I won't give them names and call their faces full of lies....
 
Damn Dersh, it's pretty incredible how your bigotry is somehow the fault of the people you're bigoted against. What a victim... sorry for triggering you, that was insensitive of me.
 
Yourbaker said:
I'm just the G in lgbtqy+ so I don't really want to speak for any of the other letters
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Hi Yourbaker. Thank you for your reply. I can see that you are indoctrinated. Not entirely your own fault, but it is your responsibility to recover.
Yourbaker said:
I'm not a political agenda but hatred directed at any group is a political agenda of hate.
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Which "group" do you hate? Do tell.
Yourbaker said:
If you can't understand someone's point of view, try placing yourself in their life and imagine what life is like from that view.
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Sure. Like the store clerk being threatened by the aggressive cross-dresser. It must really suck having this big unstable guy, crazed with hatred, dressed in women's attire 2 sizes too small, kicking and screaming, making unreasonable demands in front of his customers.
Yourbaker said:
because they never faced the judgement of others
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Everyone faces the judgement of others. Constantly.
In reality it isn't the sexuality of humans that is the problem, it is the judgment of others.
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Sound judgement is your best friend, but you would prefer to leave others without their judgement, because in your ideologically distorted mind, other people's judgement is a form of oppression?
Maybe I am starting to feel a little hatred now.
Yourbaker said:
learn to let others be and learn to be content with yourself.
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Done. Now let's get back to all the screeching armies of eternally offended militant LGBT/sjw activists, which is the topic at hand. Got any advice for them?
 
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Yourbaker said:
...because you can't show love to others over something so simple as they don't feel right in the body they are in.
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amen. nice post @Yourbaker.

it must be frustrating as hell - maybe that's putting it mildly - when somebody tells you, essentially, that they know how you feel as well if not better than you know yourself. it's really arrogance of the first order.

i console myself that, in the same way that shitty tippers will surely be reincarnated as waiters who have to serve people like their former selves, people who tell transgender people that what they're feeling is wrong/invalid/whatever will be reincarnated as somebody confused, afraid and angry because they're in the wrong body. they'll be miserable and misunderstood. they'll try to get help and understanding and they'll seek just a little compassion. but people like their former selves will just spit on them and tell them they're mentally ill.

alasdair
 
Thanks Alasdair. In truth I don't care to be understood because to understand myself is really the only thing that makes any sense at all. People with no experience being me make me laugh when they decide all kinds of things about me because their ideas fit their confirmation bias.

Mostly people just trigger and can't read anything with accuracy. I don't usually try to hard past the first few attempts, some people don't care to question their beliefs despite opportunity to learn. I'm pretty happy but you'd have to witness it for yourself, smiling while talking to easily triggered people in person has netted me names I've never thought could be mine.

I've never been a transgender person so I could learn a lot from having a few in my life. I already have a few village idiots and the spot for poo tossing monkey is full too. I don't care to assist others with their mental agendas unless they are looking to change how they think and are open to understanding.

I haven't read the segmented troll post above yours but I'm already laughing just imagining all the things I'm about to learn about myself. I'm so lucky to have someone point out how my life and thinking are so wrong compared to their deep understanding of me.
 
Derschieber said:
Hi Yourbaker. Thank you for your reply. When dealing with lgbt, every step is a land-mine, therefor short answers will only blow up on me. Sorry for the length of this.
According to your ideological masters, you are not just the G in lgbtqy+ You are also White (privilege) or Black (reparations because slavery), or legal/illegal Latino (send them back?), or Arabi (Islamophobia), or Jewish (boycott Israel), or mixed race/ethnicity (trans-racial) and a shit-load of other intersecting lines of oppression to which you are being gauged, whether you want to or not. Unfortunately, I can see that you are indoctrinated. Not entirely your own fault, but it is your responsibility to recover.


Which "group" do you hate? Do tell.


Sure. Like the store clerk being threatened by the aggressive cross-dresser. It must really suck having this big unstable guy, crazed with hatred, dressed in women's attire 2 sizes too small, kicking and screaming, making unreasonable demands in front of his customers. It's really easy for any person to have sympathy for him and the freighted on-lookers.
When a bunch of trans-activists spend the next day chanting slogans outside the store, furious with pretend-outrage and manage to drive away customers, causing significant financial damage, we can all feel for the shop-owner too. We can all feel for the victims of that abuser and his idiot supporters. All except the ideologues. You see, no one hated that cross-dresser. The cross-dresser hated others, just like every lgbt activist hates everyone who does not parrot the party line.


No one knows how you feel. It's irrelevant. You were not born 'wrong'. Try getting on without arms or legs. Strewth.


Everyone faces the judgement of others. Constantly. Perhaps you need to learn how to put yourself in other people's position, because your description of other people's life-experience is entirely unrealistic.


Sexuality of humans is often a huge problem. Massive problem. Astronomical !! Wake up to yourself. Sleeping around, unwanted pregnancies, single parent homes, sexual abuse, rape, pedophilia, porn addiction, millions of broken lives, maimed for life, death...damn

As you surely know, the spread of AIDS among homosexual men caused the sudden death of over 500,000 (mostly young) men during the 80s & 90s in the US alone. If those people had used some moral judgement about their own and each other's sexual behavior, they would not have sodomized each other to death on an industrial scale, and frankly, you should be ashamed of yourself for having a similarly low regard for gays as they did back then, where you would remove all responsibility of consequences from sexual behavior - which is exactly how all those deaths came about, and still do to this day.

Your concern over the judgement of others is absurd. If I slap your face with my sandal bitch, you will judge my behavior. And so you should!! We use judgement all the time.
When choosing friends, when crossing the road, when selecting a marriage partner. Sound judgement is your best friend, but you would prefer to leave others without their judgement, because in your ideologically distorted mind, other people's judgement is a form of oppression?

Pedophiles, rapists and armed robbers are hunted down like animals and punished severely. They might well feel the same way. "My behavior is justified, other people's judgement is the real problem".
Give me a break possum.


Done. Now let's get back to all the screeching armies of eternally offended militant LGBT/sjw activists, which is the topic at hand. Got any advice for them?


When someone is lying to you, it is ok to call them out, no matter how much Botox they have squirted into their lying lips.

I get the feeling that you, like so many others, imagine "hate" where it does not exist. LGTB/inter-sectional ideology, not unlike Islamic doctrine, sees others as either for them, or against them.
When a person does not 'celebrate' your lgtb ideology, you imagine it means hate. Any critique of your imaginary "community" is regarded as hate. LGBT is a kind of sex cult-religion, and like Islam, it's doctrine regards all adherents to be at war.
Ex-gays are typically shunned, hated and hounded by gay activists and related busy-bodies. Ex-communicated. Death threats. Just like Islam. All criticism is silenced, aggressively censored, detractors banned, de-platformed, slandered, smeared, punished by any means possible.

I'm sorry, but when I am pushed to look at "your group", my moral judgement tells me it is unquestionably evil. Dysfunctional, irresponsible, anarchistic, destructive, murderous even, ruthless, cold, heartless, ideologically driven, abominable in every regard, and it's adherents generally are the most irrational & hateful people in the western world.

You seem fine to me. The fact that you're gay does not bother me at all. Like virtually everyone, being gay in it's self doesn't mean anything.
I don't know you, of course.
If you are like most of the 100s of gays with which I have conversed over the years, then it is YOU who inflates the significance of your being gay. YOU foolishly believe that gay is some kind of identity, and therefor you belong to an imaginary "community".
And when you insist on doing that, it is YOU who therefor inherits all the evil of that degenerate entity. By virtue of your solidarity, you diminish your character. Like being innocently dumb, and joining the Nazi party in 1942 and proclaiming your nazi-pride.

I'm sure you'll agree that it is always wise to use judgement when dealing with people like that.

...and look - if you feel hated by me, then your perception is distorted. Ask me: You said so and so...why did you say that? What did you mean exactly? k?
I'm not a skilled writer. Easily misunderstood.

Best wishes
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Thanks for the insightful words. I am heartened by your well meaning friendly approach to the issues that are vexing others, in your opinion.
 
alasdairm said:
i console myself that...people who tell transgender people that what they're feeling is wrong/invalid/whatever will be reincarnated as somebody confused... in the wrong body...they'll try to get help and understanding...but people like their former selves will just spit on them and tell them they're mentally ill.
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So the transsexuals who are being mistreated/spat on - they are actually reincarnations of formerly cruel abusers? And if the abused transsexuals deserve the mistreatment, as punishment for their former deeds, then why do those who dole out the (righteous) punishment deserve to reincarnate as transsexuals to be punished themselves by the next wave of new punishers ? lol what?


Former Transgender Woman Walt Heyer shares his story of how he had a sex-reassignment surgery but soon after realized the dangers of gender dysmorphia.

 
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alasdairm said:
yep :)
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The laughter of the dammed

Reg. Exposing Jessica Yaniv video ^

Blaire White is trying to separate the 'trans community' from a transsexual who she feels is giving them a bad reputation.
Understandable, but misguided.
Blaire's claim that this Jessica person is not a 'real transsexual' demonstrates the futility of his/her position.
In reality, Jessica meets the (pathetic) criteria for a "real transsexual". Those who insist on solidarity with this imaginary trans-community, must accept solidarity with all others who claim to be members.
Just because this Jessica person is currently highlighted in the media, doesn't change the fact that the so-called trans-community is claimed as their own by countless others whose behaviors are far more degenerate than Jessica's alleged recent conduct.
 
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So because one Guy strapped with bombs masquerading as a typical Muslim blows himself up, all Muslims have to take responsibility for him? It's the fault of the entire religion? The rest of them can't denounce the actions of one bad apple?

Derschieber said:
Those who insist on solidarity with this imaginary trans-community, must accept solidarity with all others who claim to be members.
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God damn if I would of known this post was going to create this much choas I would of never asked. I apologize if I offended anyone or if people took this the wrong way. And if ya'll don't accept my apology you can kiss my ass anyways. I got love for everyone though so take care and I apologize for this thread lol ma bad if it caused some tension.
 
Xorkoth said:
So because one Guy strapped with bombs masquerading as a typical Muslim blows himself up, all Muslims have to take responsibility for him? It's the fault of the entire religion? The rest of them can't denounce the actions of one bad apple?
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1) Your first question is a little problematic. One does not masquerade as a "typical" muslim by strapping on bombs and blowing things up. Everybody knows that it is not the typical muslim who does that.
2) All muslims claim solidarity with those who kill kuffar (as per Qur'an 9:123 et al.) for the sake of Allah, since any muslim who does not, is automatically a munāfiq (hypocrite/unbeliever) and to be killed also as per (Qur'an 48:16 et al.).
3) Those who denounce the Mujahideen who seek Shaheedala [martyrdom] can expect to have their heads removed from their shoulders asap.


The LGTB sex-cult religion treats detractors in remarkably similar fashion. Ex-gays are shunned, ex-communicated, silenced, smeared, de-platformed. Hated. So it is with the growing number of de-transitioned ex-transsexuals.
All evil cults exhibit the same feature: EVIL
 
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If it was just a rogue trans sexual predator then that person would be shamed and demonized. However, this person is being protected by the media and especially platforms like Twitter, who allowed him/her to make blatantly misogynistic insults, yet they banned Lindsey Shepherd for replying.

The establishment, for some reason, is tacitly condoning Yaniv's sexual predation. Not good for the trans community as a whole.

This goes back to the original claim of many that the LGBT movement has been co-opted by nefarious actors and is being used to push extremely disconcerting themes and policies.
 
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