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Tramadol Withdrawal

Lonc84

Lonc84

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I am on my 6th day of being tramadol free. I HAVE been using oxycodone to get me through. I haven't really gone through anything serious yet. I went through Wd's in 2015 and only last two full days, I went back to taking them but at a lower dosage. My last dose of trams was 7/6. I felt nothing until the past few days. I started taking St. John's worth yesterday and i feel more anxious then before taking them. My mood is better but my anxiety is still alive and well. I am currently only taking 5mg 4 times a day. I really could take only 3 and be fine.

My question's are-

When am I safe or out of the woods for trams long term WD's? I've read up to 2 weeks. I know depression can last up to a month as well as RLS but the creepy crawling feeling and the heart palpitations?

Once I am safe from trams WD's I will start dropping the oxy. I am a store manager I am constantly on my feet giving direction to over 50 people. I only have one day to go through the harsh WD's and then have to report back to work. Can this be done? Am I going to be able to go to work when I start pulling off of the oxy?

I am sure many people think tramadol is a joke. I went through it last year and I couldn't take it. I've had surgeries before, I've been in pain. The SSRI qualties killed me. I was a mess and just wanted to kill myself. I finally tapered down to 3 pills a day. I have a decent stash of oxy and am ready to be done w everything. Any advice or insight is really appreciated. Even if its "you'll make it" and best wishes. I'm 6 says free but still worried about the time frame and my next step.

Thanks
 
Oxycodone is a stronger opioid than tramadol. I would discontinue the oxycodone, you're only prolonging the withdrawals.
It does help in a sense due to tramadol also having SNRI properties but I would suggest using Kratom to taper off if anything.
What also helps is gabapentin, loperamide, and possibly a small dosed benzo.
It's not easy, but it's worth it in the end.
If you have any questions, feel free to ask!
 
I understand the potency of oxycodone to be stronger than tramadol but at the same time I've read a lot of post's regarding people asking if they can use trams to get off of oxy and most people say that the trams are actually a worse WD. I have been prescribed oxy before and had no issues kicking or coming down off of it. I have had issues trying to stop taking the tramadol. What was your tramadol withdrawals like? How long did they last?

I am looking at taking kava kava instead of the St. johns as the mood enhancer really is doing nothing for my anxiety. My plan is to allow the st. johns or kava to get into my sytem enough to help ease the WD's that I might experience from the oxy. I really am only taking 15-20mgs a day of oxycodone and it will be roughly two weeks of taking it. I am planning on taking the 5mg in the morning and then when I get home my girl and I are gonna get smashed. Plan on letting the hangover hide the potential of WD's from the oxy on sunday. If I am not able to function on Monday I will take an oxycodone and then deal with the WD when I get home. I plan to bring the dosage this week to only one 5mg. My other option is to take my 5mg in the morning on satuday and then I have a stash of Ativan that I could tap into that night. I am off Sunday but have to work Monday so I need to start the WD on Saturday after work.

I am pretty sure I am past the acute wd's of tramadol. I am obviously going to have to come down from the Oxy but atleast not having to deal with the craziness of trams is fine with me. Tramadol WD can last two weeks, opiate WD's for me only last 3 days.

For such a low dose of oxy and for the small time period I've been taking it do you think that the withdrawals will be mild? Am I looking at a day and half of feeling like shit or am I looking at 3 days feeling like shit?

Thanks
 
Trams are no joke. I went through tram wd once a long time ago and it was brutal. I don't think I've ever shit that much in my life. Good luck to you
 
what ever you do stick to a plan!

My dog takes tramadol lol, for real doggy trams broken leg i think they are the same? But for real yes anything can be a bitch to come off of even them, its not fun. To be 100% honest with you tho hes right those oxy are really only a comfort zone deal id save a few spare ones and the last few days maybe do 1 tram one day a perk the next ya know? Your body will tell ya but Dont let your mind in the fight! but your fine at least its not heroin or something right!? Hell id rather try to Quit trams than quit smokeing any day! Tough love i know :) sorry im really not being a dick i just know how it feals to be ran by pills! At least you have a plan Thats good most never do ;)
 
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I understand the potency of oxycodone to be stronger than tramadol but at the same time I've read a lot of post's regarding people asking if they can use trams to get off of oxy and most people say that the trams are actually a worse WD. I have been prescribed oxy before and had no issues kicking or coming down off of it. I have had issues trying to stop taking the tramadol. What was your tramadol withdrawals like? How long did they last?

I am looking at taking kava kava instead of the St. johns as the mood enhancer really is doing nothing for my anxiety. My plan is to allow the st. johns or kava to get into my sytem enough to help ease the WD's that I might experience from the oxy. I really am only taking 15-20mgs a day of oxycodone and it will be roughly two weeks of taking it. I am planning on taking the 5mg in the morning and then when I get home my girl and I are gonna get smashed. Plan on letting the hangover hide the potential of WD's from the oxy on sunday. If I am not able to function on Monday I will take an oxycodone and then deal with the WD when I get home. I plan to bring the dosage this week to only one 5mg. My other option is to take my 5mg in the morning on satuday and then I have a stash of Ativan that I could tap into that night. I am off Sunday but have to work Monday so I need to start the WD on Saturday after work.

I am pretty sure I am past the acute wd's of tramadol. I am obviously going to have to come down from the Oxy but atleast not having to deal with the craziness of trams is fine with me. Tramadol WD can last two weeks, opiate WD's for me only last 3 days.

For such a low dose of oxy and for the small time period I've been taking it do you think that the withdrawals will be mild? Am I looking at a day and half of feeling like shit or am I looking at 3 days feeling like shit?

Thanks
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Tramadol withdrawal is no walk in the park, It could be considered worse due to the SNRI activity/withdrawal aspect.
I'm not going to tell you not to use oxycodone to help combat the SNRI withdrawals, but it should only be a short time.
You will still have some acute withdrawals once you're out of the oxycodone.
Like I suggest previously, try to get a hold of a low dose benzo or gabapentin.

For me the acute withdrawals of Tramadol lasted about a week, I was on it for about 7 months.
The nasty depression and anxiety from it, lasted about a good solid month and a half.
 
The St. John's Wort is an MAOI, and reacts negatively with a lot of substances so be careful with that. It usually takes a couple of weeks to start working as it has to build up in your system. If you quit St. John's you may want to consider 5-HTP, which will increase your serotonin levels. While kava kava is great for anxiety, i don't think it's going to perform the way your intending, though it's a great herb do t get me wrong. Kava is more like a benzodiazapine where as St. John's (MAOI) and 5-HTP (more like an SSRI as it affects serotonin) are more like antidepressants.

Though mildly addictive, kratom is going to be closest to tramadol with respect to the opiate fee and the antidepressant qualities, imo.

If any of that interests you and you want more specific details let me know. Word of caution, do not mix St. John's with kratom or 5-htp, and do not take large quantities of kratom and 5-htp together (even if spaced on the same day, no more than 100mg). You do not want serotonin syndrome.

You're doing great! Keep it up!
 
I went thru tram withdrawal a number of times, once for 1300mg/day. The bad news is that it's brutal. There's a physical component that's milder than that of the more potent opiods, but it comes with very insidious depression that tries to creep in from every angle. The feelings of regret and self-hatred can be overwhelming. The good news is that you can get over it relatively quickly. With pure tram WD, you should feel mostly OK by day 5. Your WD might be a little more dragged out because you're using oxycodone, but you should be out of it soon.
 
Thanks everyone for the replies. I thought I had set it to notify me when there was a response. Anyhooo, today is day 12 of being tramadol free. Today is also the first day without taking hydro or oxy. Btw- bad fucking choice getting hammered on liquor Saturday night. I woke in horrible pain from the hangover and wd from the oxy. It was mainly hangover mixed w horrible anxiety. I broke down and took 1 5mg hydro just to calm the f down. Today I haven't taken anything. I feel kinda like shot but it comes in waves. I had to work and my anxiety and heebee jeebees were still there. My gfs been feeding me kava kava l-tyrosine and a mutil vitamin. I have been sneezing alto today. I only have one hydro 5mg left and i almost reached for several times today. I finally just accepted that if I take it, the horrible hangover and wd I felt yesterday and mostly today would make me have to deal w it another day. I took a hot bath last night and it did help w the rls as well as some of the anxiety. I truly don't feel like any of the herbs have helped. I did try and wd from trams before and it was toooo much. I had been at a much higher dose then when I tried this time. The oxy did help. I do have the ativan but I am worried about a possible drug test that might pop up for my promotion. Don't want to chance it. I am excited but I also go through depression and melancholy. I should be thrilled but I am kinda just like blah about all of it. Thanks again for the help. The kava and St johns hasn't done shit.
 
Glad you're doing well - 12 days is fantastic! Also, St. John's Wort can take a few weeks to kick in - consider switching to 5-htp, but do NOT take it with St. John's Wort. Not certain what brand kava you're using, but Gaia Maximum Strength Liquid extract is decent. If you're having trouble sleeping take the l-tyrosine in the morning. You may also want to add l-theanine and Relora throughout the day - those work well for stress. You may want to try some magnesium citrate tablets at night, however, don't over do it or you'll be confined to the toilet. Try to stay focused and keep in mind these feelings will pass. Keep up the great work and keep us updated!
 
I was on Tram for years. It was like an anti-depressant for me. It made me happy and I didn't have anxiety. I realized it was time to get off because it started making me irritable as hell and didn't work as well anymore. Tramadol withdrawal is the worst! I was scared.

Get Kratom! That is the only way I was able to get off Tram. It worked amazingly. Just take Kratom and you will be free.
 
I do have to say I woke up feeling great. Almost like a normal person again. The anxiety is pretty much gone. I told the gf I didn't want to take anything but the l-tyrosine and mutil vitamin. I have adhd and remember when I was younger St. Johns used to make me feel very strange. It might just be a mental thing but I remember never wanting to take it and when I did feeling shitty. I also was on Ritalin so maybe those were bad mixes. Either way I woke up today and felt no heebee jeebees. I have been stuck on trams for three years. It started as a prescription and then it was a crutch to get me through cancer. I used it to not give a shit it helped w my anxiety and it got me through. After I beat the cancer I used it still as my anti-depressant and as a stress reliever. I knew when I was dependent when I would fear or running out. I didn't want to take it but I didn't want to go through the wds of it. Everyone has their own way of getting off or through different things. This way worked for me. Hopefully another person who feels like there's no way out (not condoning using oxy) atleast sees I was the same sap scared as well. Today is my 13th day off trams. I am off oxy and hydro and i feel fine. There was a lot of self will to not continue the oxy (it can be a slippery slope). The tapering helped. Having a plan and leaning on the good people that have posted of this thread have helped me get through it. Thank you all for your insight and posts of encouragement.
 
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