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Tramadol recreational value - poll

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This is a poll. The choices are as followed:

Q: Does Tramadol have recreational value?
A:
  • Yes, I can see why it would be taken on the regular.
    [53%] - 7
  • Not really, only use it for a rainy day.
    [15%] - 2
  • No.
    [30%] - 4

    13 votes

This is something I am starting to ponder: Some people will not use Tramadol, and others say it works wonders for them. I notice this connection with standard SSRI's as well (Prozac etc..). SSRI's either help somebody with their symptoms, or really don't do anything to help them. I found it odd that this is common with anti-depressants but Tramadol has SSRI properties. Can anybody explain this connection?

Tramadol is one of those "respect" drugs. If you take a high dose and just try to nod out, its NOT going to happen. You will most likely be disappointed. This is what I did when I first got my hands on tram and I was utterly disappointed. It was not until I actually took some time to focus on the effects of Tramadol I noticed the power of it. I have seen heroin addicts say they prefer the unique feeling of tram. Mild opioid and S(S/N)RI activity that gives you a nice buzz without much of any sides. The perfect combo; not so much for withdrawals :(

Why is tram-considered a non-narcotic? If definitely is not. Opiate itches and all, plus S(S/N)RI activity, c'mon now. In case anybody was wondering, I have been around the block with opiates. I refuse to IV at this point in my life, but have done just about every opiate and was slightly addicted to oxycodone (60mg/day). Rather then being a full blown drug addict, I love the balance Tramadol offers. Just my opinion

Happy dosing
 
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Not only does tramadol have no recreational value, to me it has no value of any kind.
 
I can see why Tramadol might be cast aside as a half ass painkiller but believe me
when i say one can get gratuitously merked off it. I came across it stumbling through
meds and decided.. these are small- i am big- and took about 2 grams worth. No bullshit
them pills got me more faded than any amount of sniffed dope that ive had since like iwas in space or some shit.
However in the morning and for like two days i paid for it with illing, lock-piss, and partial deafness so not rlly worth it.
But can it fuck you up? fuckin right it can!

*no i did not mean mgs
 
I had a few good times on tramadol back when I first started using opiods...but after the first few times it seemed to just make me nervous as hell!!!
then it gave me a damn seizure and now I am scared shitless from it so I stay away!!
 
I can take 100mgs of Tramadol but need to take 2 Advils as well to get any pain relief.........Tramadol by itself doesnt give me any pain relief. As far as it being recreational.........hard to explain for me. If I take 200mgs with several Advil, I will catch a slight buzz but what happens is I focus more on Trams & it does leave me with an uplifting feeling.

Some people love Tramadol over codeine, hydrocodone & oxycodone...........I wish I was one of those people :(
 
Guys, just because you personally don't feel it has any value, spouting off a one-sentence statement as an absolute that Tramadol provides absolutely nothing isn't conducive to the OP's question. Adding in anecdotal experience or a particular reason it's not of benefit to you is helpful. Absolutes don't hold true, as we've all come to find out just through living life.

I personally find Tramadol to be mediocre at best. However I'm quite opposed to the SNRI sub-profile it has (it's nearly identical to Effexor - not 100%, but damn close). This SNRI effect is the only someone who is opiate-tolerant feels anything from taking Tramadol.

On the other hand, it's metabolite, o-desmethyl-tramadol is much more potent at u-opioid agonism, and thus is much more effective as a painkiller. (Hopefully I'll find out what the actual difference between them is - the SNRI effect of Tramadol is messing with my mood too much, but it handles 75% of my pain [mornings and BT are still rough though] - and my doc appt is in roughly a week).

Anyhow, keep the conversation civil and purposeful guys.

The reason Tramadol has such varied responses is the method in which people use it. Bombing 400mg is doing it wrong. Eating 50mg every 90 minutes until you reach your desired amount, is correct. Tramadol is slowly metabolised, and is metabolised better with each repeated dose. This means that 250mg in one go is less effective than taking 50mg in 5 separate increments spaced out accordingly.
 
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Thank you.

Tramadol is one of those "respect" drugs. If you take a high dose and just try to nod out, its NOT going to happen. You will most likely be disappointed. This is what I did when I first got my hands on tram and I was utterly disappointed. It was not until I actually took some time to focus on the effects of Tramadol I noticed the power of it. I have seen heroin addicts say they prefer the unique feeling of tram.

In all honesty I am noticing this aspect in people (no offence to anybody). Those who say tram sucks are generally people very quick to jump to conclusions and well... ignorant when it comes to tram. Sure I can take 400mg+, even up to 800mg w/o an issue but I would rather take 250mg and go on with my day instead of just getting high off my ass on something. Mild opioid and S(S/N)RI activity that gives you a nice buzz without much of any sides. The perfect combo; not so much for withdrawals :(

Why is tram-considered a non-narcotic? If definitely is not. Opiate itches and all, plus S(S/N)RI activity, c'mon now. In case anybody was wondering, I have been around the block with opiates. I refuse to IV at this point in my life, but have done just about every opiate and was slightly addicted to oxycodone (60mg/day). Rather then being a full blown drug addict, I love the balance Tramadol offers. Just my opinion
 
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I believe that tramadol is legitimately narcotic, and recreational. However, it is strongly subject to personal tolerance, perhaps moreso than other opioids because of the SSRI/SNRI effects which predominate if you have a tolerance.

Tramadol was my first love among opioids, and I only stopped using because of the inevitable increase in tolerance and fear of seizures. The analog talpentadol does everything tramadol did and more, it is probably my favorite opioid (the SNRI feeling is almost exactly like coming up on amphetamines). However, I can see why people who are more used to strictly sedating opioids would find this less enjoyable. I have a fondness for stims as well as opiates, and tramdol/talpentadol satisfied both these desires equally.

It really just seems to be an issue of personal preference, and not a result of whether tramadol is narcotic or not.
 
I think another variable to throw in here is which version the people are taking. I would be interested to know if users have a higher success rate as far as recreational value, if they are taking ultram or ultracet. Generic or brand name also.
 
^ we don't cover brand/generic discussion here as there is little to no variation (tramadol is tramadol) and it is pure speculation anyway..

You can see from this thread that people respond to tramadol in vastly different ways. I was going to close it before it becomes endless debate but there has been some good discussion going on about it's opioid and SNRI properties so I will leave it open for now!!
 
I find it alright. Not gonna get euphoria or anything but its cool if your tolerance is low other than that for more "advanced" drug users of opiates or benzos etc lol its pretty much useless, but I got a buzz from it before can't really describe cause Im kinda of drunk but I did forsure get a buzz from it. It's basic shit, but I did have a trippy ass experience from it when I felt like I was gonna have a seizure after 350mgs, but I ended up being ok, but it is possible...Don't underestimate it
 
I became addicted to this stuff after prolonged recreational use, so obviously I'm in the 'yes' camp.

I'd qualify that, however, by saying that the enjoyable effects (opioid-wise) were unreliable and unpredictable in both their frequency and nature, which was true even when I began using it occasionally before building up a habit through a combination of time, unlimited access and youthful ignorance. A lot of people find the opioid aspect disappears completely for them after prolonged daily use, but while it became less consistent it was certainly there, if only because of the infernal itching it tended to cause me.

As for the SNRI aspect of it, I think it's an excellent antidepressant in the short-term - immediate acting, a pleasant headspace and not too many of the unpleasant side effects you'd expect from similar substances. On the other hand, the withdrawal knocked me into a deeper depression than I'd known in ages - insomnia, agoraphobia, loss of libido, crippling anxiety etc., and all for a period of a few months.

So any positive comments I make about tramadol are counterbalanced by my hatred of what the stuff can do if it's not used with caution. And that's without taking the potential for nasty interactions into account.
 
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So any positive comments I make about tramadol are counterbalanced by my hatred of what the stuff can do if it's not used with caution. And that's without taking the potential for nasty interactions into account.
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My biggest issue w/ Tramadol is due to the SNRI component: I can't eat LSD w/o killing myself while it's in my system. Currently it's the strongest Rx I have for my pain, and it's not totally cutting it either.

Closing this as it's not going anywhere quick. No HR value to speak of, either. Anyone, feel free to PM me with queries.
 
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