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Opioids tramadol or tagamet?

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i plan on taking some klonopin + hydrocodone this weekend...and i am going to buy some tagamet because that pill does wonders for me with klonopin... i also have some tramadol, but i read that tagamet will prohibit the Demethylation of tramadol into its stronger metabolites..so which should i take trams or cimetidine??and which is better for potentiating opiates: benedryl or nyquil? thanks...
 
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Your questions seem to me to be along the lines of "what effects are better?" which is purely subjective and not allowed, but I'll give you a quick rundown of the interactions.

Ignoring the effect cimetidine might have on absorption of chemicals due to acid levels in the GI tract, it limits the hepatic metabolism of many enzymes. This means that taking it will make your clonazepam and hydrocodone last longer, and if they were taken orally increase the total amount getting into your system as well. The same inhibition of the enzymes will somewhat limit tramadol from being converted to O-desmethyltramadol as quickly.

The antihistamine diphenhydramine is hypnotic, will prevent opiate itch, and also has an inhibitory effect on a liver enzyme. Benedryl and Nyquil are both brand names and though Benedryl often contains only diphenhydramine (at least around ontario) I'm pretty sure Nyquil has a bunch of different active ingredients and you really should try and be more specific.
 
Your questions seem to me to be along the lines of "what effects are better?" which is purely subjective and not allowed, but I'll give you a quick rundown of the interactions.

Ignoring the effect cimetidine might have on absorption of chemicals due to acid levels in the GI tract, it limits the hepatic metabolism of many enzymes. This means that taking it will make your clonazepam and hydrocodone last longer, and if they were taken orally increase the total amount getting into your system as well. The same inhibition of the enzymes will somewhat limit tramadol from being converted to O-desmethyltramadol as quickly.

The antihistamine diphenhydramine is hypnotic, will prevent opiate itch, and also has an inhibitory effect on a liver enzyme. Benedryl and Nyquil are both brand names and though Benedryl often contains only diphenhydramine (at least around ontario) I'm pretty sure Nyquil has a bunch of different active ingredients and you really should try and be more specific.

so tagamet will not affect the overall amount of tramadol metabolised, only the velocity at which tramadol is converted to O-desmethyltramadol? doxlyamine succinate and dxm are the main ingredients in nyquil cough; i have only tried nyquil with opiates, never benedryl and thats why i was wondering how other people reacted to benedryl + opiates.. last time i had hydro was last week ... i took 7 teaspoons of tussionex (70mg hydrocodone) +150mg tramadol (potentiated by GFJ) + 1mg klonopin + bong rips... i had euphoria for a little, but then i felt it fade after an hour two and it wasnt anything amazing really...only felt the SSRI and SNRI effects of tramadol and the klonopin :(
this weekend though i could only find 20mgs hydro cuz the kid had no more, so i dont even kno if i should save it? but i got some extra cash so i wanted to buy some tagamet and benedryl/nyquil...hopefully ill find a blue this weekend
 
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so tagamet will not affect the overall amount of tramadol metabolised, only the velocity at which tramadol is converted to O-desmethyltramadol?
Sort of. If there is another method of metabolism that isn't inhibited which doesn't pass through an O-desmethyltramadol metabolite then it will be more dominate then usual and you'll lose some as well.

DXM actually has opioid action and is sometimes used to prevent tolerance building with opiate use and I suppose by potentiating it but I'm not a fan of the robo effect.
 
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