A friend was buying trams online and now she can't get them online anymore. Don't have health insurance and just ran out of her trams. What is she going to go through and how long. What can she take to help her withdrawals. Anyone else going through same thing?
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How long was your friend taking them for and at what dose??
And yes, plenty of people here are going through detox right now. I'm currently kicking heroin, which I know isn't the same drug, but they're in the same family. Kind of.
Honestly I don't know much about Tramadol withdrawals. I could tell you about heroin or bupe withdrawals all day long, but I've never even taken Tramadol for recreational purposes. All I know about it is what I've watched and heard of other people going through. Not trying to scare your friend, but that shit does NOT fuck around when it comes to withdrawal. It's more mental than physical, but I have never seen people feel more hopeless and in despair as when they've been in the midst of Tramadol withdrawals... benzos are the only thing I've seen that top it. I think your friend can expect to experience soul-crushing depression, you should suggest to her supplements like 5-HTP, St. John's Wort, L-Dopa if she can find it. If she's gonna take any of these though, she should research them thoroughly first as they can present their own problems. I know 5-HTP, if the person is also taking an SSRI, can cause serotonin syndrome. On it's own though it can be absolutely amazing, it's helped me before. Just tell her to be careful with supplements that affect brain chemistry on that level. Also, finding a good balance of rest and exercise, diet changes (which I don't know enough about to expand on, hopefully someone else will come along and make some suggestions for this), having a support system, and having things to do to preoccupy her time are going to be her best defenses against the depression. Which WILL most definitely come, it is the one consistent symptom I've seen in people coming off of that evil shit.
Also, Trams lower your seizure threshold. That's why people usually taper off of them slowly before they quit, but if that's not an option then I think that at the very least, your friend should go to the ER or something just to make sure she's going to be safe. I know she doesn't have health insurance, but really it's better to run up a bill that you can't pay than to risk the alternative.
By the way I'm really not trying to scare anyone, just trying to be as honest and upfront about it as possible... better than getting blindsided by it, I say. There will be physical symptoms too, of course, but they'll be uncomfortable at worst. Nothing like full-blown opiate withdrawal... except for maybe something hella weak like codeine. Really tho the main thing a person detoxing off Trams needs to worry about is that lovely sense of impending doom that only Tramadol or benzo withdrawals can give you, and the seizure risk.
As for how long the withdrawals will last, it's a wildcard honestly. It can be a few days to a few months, it depends entirely on the individual and there is no way to know until you just go through it. Also kind of like benzos... they have a lot in common, apparently. lol. Seriously though, as bad as it all sounds, it is entirely possible to get through it and is still one of the easier withdrawals to go through as long as you've minimized the seizure risk as much as possible, and you go into it with the right attitude and are proactive in doing things to keep your head above water during the mindfuck. But I mean, there are far more intense and dangerous withdrawals a person could go through, and people quit even those drugs every single day. It is entirely possible. And also entirely worth it.
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And yes, plenty of people here are going through detox right now. I'm currently kicking heroin, which I know isn't the same drug, but they're in the same family. Kind of.
Honestly I don't know much about Tramadol withdrawals. I could tell you about heroin or bupe withdrawals all day long, but I've never even taken Tramadol for recreational purposes. All I know about it is what I've watched and heard of other people going through. Not trying to scare your friend, but that shit does NOT fuck around when it comes to withdrawal. It's more mental than physical, but I have never seen people feel more hopeless and in despair as when they've been in the midst of Tramadol withdrawals... benzos are the only thing I've seen that top it. I think your friend can expect to experience soul-crushing depression, you should suggest to her supplements like 5-HTP, St. John's Wort, L-Dopa if she can find it. If she's gonna take any of these though, she should research them thoroughly first as they can present their own problems. I know 5-HTP, if the person is also taking an SSRI, can cause serotonin syndrome. On it's own though it can be absolutely amazing, it's helped me before. Just tell her to be careful with supplements that affect brain chemistry on that level. Also, finding a good balance of rest and exercise, diet changes (which I don't know enough about to expand on, hopefully someone else will come along and make some suggestions for this), having a support system, and having things to do to preoccupy her time are going to be her best defenses against the depression. Which WILL most definitely come, it is the one consistent symptom I've seen in people coming off of that evil shit.
Also, Trams lower your seizure threshold. That's why people usually taper off of them slowly before they quit, but if that's not an option then I think that at the very least, your friend should go to the ER or something just to make sure she's going to be safe. I know she doesn't have health insurance, but really it's better to run up a bill that you can't pay than to risk the alternative.
By the way I'm really not trying to scare anyone, just trying to be as honest and upfront about it as possible... better than getting blindsided by it, I say. There will be physical symptoms too, of course, but they'll be uncomfortable at worst. Nothing like full-blown opiate withdrawal... except for maybe something hella weak like codeine. Really tho the main thing a person detoxing off Trams needs to worry about is that lovely sense of impending doom that only Tramadol or benzo withdrawals can give you, and the seizure risk.
As for how long the withdrawals will last, it's a wildcard honestly. It can be a few days to a few months, it depends entirely on the individual and there is no way to know until you just go through it. Also kind of like benzos... they have a lot in common, apparently. lol. Seriously though, as bad as it all sounds, it is entirely possible to get through it and is still one of the easier withdrawals to go through as long as you've minimized the seizure risk as much as possible, and you go into it with the right attitude and are proactive in doing things to keep your head above water during the mindfuck. But I mean, there are far more intense and dangerous withdrawals a person could go through, and people quit even those drugs every single day. It is entirely possible. And also entirely worth it.
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Hey! This happened to me yesterday. I was supposed to pick up my scrip for tramadol at the pharmacy two days ago. I called yesterday since I didn't get a text from them sing it was ready. They did that even though I had 3 refills left on my script that my doctor had to call in a new script cause it's not a controlled substance. I freaked out cause I only had 6 pills left and I take 6 a day. I'm also prescribed gabapentin and amitriptyline for fibromyalgia. So yesterday I took my normal two in the morning, skipped my afternoon dose, and just took two before bed. I started feeling a little twitchy around 7 (about7 hours after taking my morning dose) so I took a gabapentin. Then I took my nighttime two tramadol at 9 then gabapentin and amitriptyline at midnight. I didn't really go into withdrawal between noon and9pm when I took my first and last dose. I saved those extra 2 for this morning. I just called my docs office and they will be sending the script over soon so I will be in good shape hopefully. I'm kind of wondering about the wd's myself. I take it for the fibro, not ever recreationaly because I'm in recovery from heroin (and everything else) addiction. I feel I got tricked by doctors into taking this medication because they said its not a narcotic and it's not addicting and now boom, it's a controlled substance. I'd like to get off it and find some other avenue to manage my pain but I'm worried that if the wd's are so bad it might push me to something else. Idk...thanks for making this thread!
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^^ Most addicts have more knowledge about addiction and the addictive substances they're taking than doctors do. Also, doctors lie. Whether they're actually really ignorant and believe what they're saying or whether it's for a more sinister reason involving money, idk. I've always researched the crap out of every drug I've taken recreationally, but I used to trust my doctor and take what he would give me without question. Once I became addicted to opiates and it became clear that I knew more about them than he did (especially Suboxone, seriously, what is it with so many doctors being so completely stupid about buprenorphine?!), I started researching EVERYTHING on my own so I wouldn't get blindsided with a new addiction in the future the way I did with Subs.
Knowledge will always be your best defense
Knowledge will always be your best defense
I agree. My doc is kinda old so I'm thinking it's just ignorance. And I think a lot of doctors are ignorant about addiction. Every where I go, I tell every doctor that I can't take narcotics or anything addicting. I went to the hospital after being in a car crash and told them I couldn't have anything and they STILL tired to give me IV ativan. Luckily I've had expierience with benzos so I knew to refuse it. I wish doctors took the time to educate themselves about addiction. When I first started talking the tramadol, I didn't know about these groups so I asked if it's a narcotic or addicting. Med website back then did no to both. Now, two days ago, they classify it is a schedule4 controlled substance, so I'm finding out its not what they told me it was. Fml.