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Tramadol More Potent Than Adderall As a Speed Drug?

tramadol is known to make u feel more speedier. my doctor asked if I want lortabs and I said no im on suboxone, so he gave me tramadol for a tooth ache, I think once u got a tolerance to opiates, tramadol is a waste, it nowhere compares to amphetamines, by true nature and effects of it.
 
^Even without an opioid tolerance I don't really think they're similar but I see what you mean. While tramadol may have stimulant-like effects (or even outright stimulant effects, which is uncommon) for some people, it is nowhere near Adderall (which is mostly dexamphetamine) in terms of effects. Amphetamine is the gold standard by which stimulants are measured. As others have posted, tramadol can have a sedating/noddy effect as well.
 
yeah, amphetamines are unique drugs where nothing can compete (SNRI inhibitors??) Ultram acting as an SNRI, I felt the energy boost from it when I wuld take it in jail,
 
Intenselife said:
Me! Lol i thought i was the only one who liked codeine more than hydrocodone/vicodin, hydrocodone seems more preferred and prescribed compared to tylenol 3's which i prefer more. I hate all the extra apap they put in hydrocodone except the norco version, i prefer 180mg of codeine over any dose of hydros ANYDAY. The warmth surging euphoric feeling and the pain relief from the codeine to me is superior to oh idk like 25mg hydrocodone (no tolerance). Hydros just make my head feel heavier, but don't provide much of a body high or euphoria for me, if and when the opportunity arises, i don't want hydro's i will rather ask for codeine.
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Exactly!

Hydro is nice, but it doesn't ever put me to sleep! Codeine is so powerful, compared to hydrocodone, at doses of 140MG's and up - is rather take that any day!

Codeine makes me nod, and I sleep great the entire night and day afterward. Maybe we're high metabolizers of codeine? Usually 10% of Codeine is concerted into Morphine in the liver. However, some people are able to metabolize twice that number. So 20% gets turned into morphine.

I wonder if that's us? Lol
 
I can relate to the speedy-effect, at least to some extent:
For I don't know what reason (it could be related to my bipolar condition), stimulants never worked on me, at least I never had the desired effect, i.e. being stimulated by them. The only effect I have, and it's the same whenever I tried stims, is that everything crashes in my head, as if a wall of brick just debuilds himself, brick by brick, my body feels at un-ease, I need to lay down, as if my heart isn't working well (and it goes from tachycardia to very slow beating), and the most important effect is that I feel like deeply in anger, not that I want to destroy everything, but that everything annoys me, and it's pretty ridiculous : "why is this chair put like that?", "why the TV speaker is speaking this way?" "Don't talk to me, your voice is irritating me". At no point any pleasant stimulation !
And it's the same, from a strong dose of coffee to 10mg of MDPV.

For somewhat reason, I have the exact same irritation when on tramadol, yet less severe and counterbalanced by the pleasant/orgasmic mellow effect. (For what is worth, the only med that has a stimulating effect on me is escitalopram, an SSRI, who knows why..)

I have wondered in the past if there could be a link between stims and tramadol, now you are the first person I read who also point it out.

So, as far as I'm concerned, there could be a correlation..
 
NerdOnDrugs said:
Do you generally have a high tolerance for drugs? Gotta step ur CYP3A4 enzyme game up.

I have friends that get nothing out of tramadol as well... just genetics. About 70% get off on tramadol I've found...small sample size.
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I have an opioid tolerance where about 25mg hydrocodone is a good dose for me...so tramadol really doesn't do a lot. As for the SSRI/SNRI (whatever it is) part, I'm already on Prozac so I wouldn't notice the difference.
 
If you want a good, speedy sort of non-speed drug, Maeng Da kratom. Known particularly for its energizing effects whilst feeling like hydrocodone.
 
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