I don't understand the great hype over tramadol, it's just like a weak body high for me... but yeah I've taken both several times before/afterwards/simultaneously and it's fine.
ultram doesn't get me high. All it does is make me vomit. No other "opiate" does that. I can't stand those things. And to think they gave it to me because it was "gentler on the stomach". LOL. Yuck.
There is some truth in what you two write, and some things that are just plain incorrect.
Tramadol is not a high like oxycodone, or even hydrocodone, or any opiates above the stength of the two mentioned. However, It is unschedualed, this means that it is more liberally prescribed, benefit #1.
Benefit #2 it is an effective pain reliever, it doesnt have nasty apap (most of them, I know ultracet has 37.5mg of tramadol hcl, and ?00mg of apap). Most tramadol scrips do not have apap.
Benefit #3 It has anti-depressant properties. It is not "euphoric" except to an opiate niaive person, or someone who hasnt ever tried it, for the first couple times. However, as the months go on, it still has its mood elevating properties, and its pain relieving qualities. Takes away all my knee pain and I can walk around, work out, and do whatever. Without it, knee makes a clicking sound when i extend it, and it hurts. Alieve, tylenol, or aspirin only take away some of the pain.
So basically. Yes, there is no "hype" as you say. Its not oxymorphone, its not fentanyl, its tramadol. And for what it is, which is not a true opiate, its effective. Granted over time it loses its punch, but dont all meds? Overall its a nice mood lift, and some pain relief. A tough guy like you who doesnt feel tramadol should graduate to bigger a better drugs

Tramadol is no Oxycodone, but its meant for a different level of pain. If you are in a car crash, and you break an arm, or leg, you will be given some strong narcotics, ya know, the kind famous people get addicted to afterwards. Meanwhile, a more chronic, nagging pain, mild, would be better treated with a med like prescription strength ibuprofen, tramadol, and similar pharms, I.E.
**Darvocet, which is an opiate, although, a truely crappy one, where the negatives IMO outweight the benefits((hence why the U.S. gov't considered taking it off the market, due to its high APAP amount, and like I said, lack of benfits for potenetial problems**
*****And to just clear things, Tramadol is an OPIOID- it does not come from the poppy (papaver somniferum) plant, and is a "Quasi narcotic". IT acts s
imilarly to opiates in pain relief, regarding its effect on certain opioid receptors, which changes how pain is felt from the brain - to the body.
Opiates = Drugs that derive from the poppy plant. Everything from Codeine to heroin. Not tramadol.