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Stimulants Took a 20mg orange Adderall yesterday...what do i use for sleep?!

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Ok so i've been addicted to xanax for a while now. I take an average of 16mg a day. Really bad i know. Well to counteract the fact that i pretty much forget my own damn name sometimes at this point i tried a 20mg Adderall yesterday. It was an orange oval pill. NO sleep that night. Literally took 5mg of xanax before bed PLUS 20mg of Melatonin and just laid there all night. Took another 3mg of xanax...still nothing.
The only thing i can think of is that i still have a script of .25mg of clonidine. Now i've taken clonidine before and it did help me with sleep which surprised me. (this is just when i was getting off suboxone but still taking xanax) So i'm wondering if i should take one? The only thing i noticed was it gave me incredible dry mouth. Not sure if that was because .25mg was too much...i really don't want to have to take another Adderall tomorrow just to stay awake. I've obviously come to terms that i'm an addict and don't want to start down the "pharmaceutical speedball" path. Any suggestions appreciated.
 
Wow. You take 32x my xanax dose. I think you should see a pdoc asap, if that much xanax can't get you to sleep then there is something seriously wrong, instead of aderall, you should take modafinil, it doesn't affect your ability to sleep that much especially if you take it before noon and it will enhance your cognition as well which you seem to complain about, the thing is if you decide to take modafinil (trade name: provigil or modalert(alot cheaper)) you need to cut down on the xanax. In terms of clonidine, I don't know much about that. I too complain of cognitive impairment, I tried ritalin, aderall and modafinil and I think modafinil is the best with a low dose of xanax to control anxiety related side effects. Regards
 
Thanks for the response afarghaly. Yeah i know...i'm still waiting for my insurance to kick in so i can see a doc this horrible xanax addiction. I actually decided to throw away the remaining adderall i had. Just an even worse path i'd be going down. I will however look into modafinil.
 
You sound just like Michael Jackson he was well bad on the benzos. Next step would be to get yourself a doctor who can hook you up to propaphol bottle. If you dont have millions to spare I suggest tapering down the benzos
 
You don't really need millions to get propofol, it's dirt cheap.

I suggest you are gonna have to go a night without sleep and just man up tomorrow and go through the day tired. Then get off that crap. Best advice we can give you.
 
Ahhhh but you do need millions for your own private physician who can prescribe it for ya
 
Uhm you should of course be friends with as many doctors as possible who are down with gettin blasted ... Duh!

Right when they finish studying they can just walk into the pharmacy and buy/order it. You wouldn't believe some of the druggies you'll find in the medical community. I've never met so many people who had experience with DMT in one place. One guy I study with (straight a student) is an ex iv heroin user (convicted of prescription forgery) and he's still a sucker for his daily speed as are countless others there (who can blame them?). I even got buddies who enjoy diphenidine lol. Pot, booze and cigarettes are more common among medical students than in any other course at university. These people might be tearing themselves a 2nd asshole through studying, but that doesn't mean they don't like to get high.

But of course you won't be able to walk into a praxis and ask for propofol lol.
 
I saw you mentioned taking 20mg of melatonin to try to help you sleep. I don't think that it works that way. I believe that if you take a normal dose each night that it just helps you stay asleep, but I'm not completely sure. I just know that popping a bunch of them won't knock you out like you might expect.

I suggest taking the clonidine that you got prescribed. That's what I used to take for sleep when I had an adderall prescription since I was also prescribed valium and my tolerance made it so that I would need more than I could spare (I only had the one pill a day that I was prescribed so if I took extras I would run out) in order to help me sleep, so instead I would take the clonidine for that purpose.

There is no cross-tolerance between the clonidine and benzos like xanax so it should be as effective for you as it would be for a person with no history of benzo use, as long as you are not in benzo withdrawal when you take it. Clonidine is also sometimes prescribed for ADD but is certainly not similar to adderall, but has some properties that help it treat some of the symptoms of ADD according to the prescription information guide for it.
 
DISCLAIMER: NEVER ATTEMPT ANY OF THIS. IF YOU ARE TO THE POINT THAT YOU HAVE THIS LEVEL OF SUBSTANCE TOLERANCE, I PITY YOU GREATLY. IN NO WAY AM I TRYING TO GLORIFY HEROIC DOSE, DRUG USAGE.

With a super high benzodiazepine tolerance, high dose amphetamine will render them nigh useless from a clinical standpoint, even in extreme doses. The first time I mainlined more than 350mg of methamphetamine, I took 135mg of alprazolam trying to calm down and to stop having vivid hallucinations (I was also taking 300mg of amitriptyline daily for depression/nerve pain and all the 5-HT reuptake inhibition that had been going on for months and months did not help with the stimulant psychosis I had thrown myself into). No, I did not take all of this in one dose. This was taken in 10-20mg incriments sublingually throughout the night. Despite taking almost my entire prescription of Xanax bars I had filled that day, I was still in psychosis (one of the rare times I've ever wanted quetiapine - can probably count on one hand the instances of that), I never blacked out, and I slept less than 5 hours that night.

Stay away from the amps if they affect you that much, and work down that alprazolam dosage. If you aren't dependent or have only been dependent a couple months, jump ship now. You do not want to keep up this unsustainable habit and have to come off at that dosage in 6 months or a couple years. You will be wrecked for a long, long, long time.

edit: Oh, and studies have shown that melatonin has no clinical significance beyond 3mg per night, and based on personal experience, and anecdotes of others I've known through intensive out-patient group therapy, in-patient psych wards, and based on what M.D.s have told me, it seems to only hold efficacy for a very limited amount of time if it works at all.
 
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