Too much meth, again?

[anything else]

No worries mate, I wish I had someone to tell me about lyrica when I was only a year or 2 in.

There’s no denying that it hits your GABA receptors and feels like an anti-anxiety drug. When I first took it I described to my mates that “if MDMA is 10/10, this is a healthy 6/10.”

But it faded. That can only be regained after a month or 2 off it it. And you will feel horrific side effects coming off it for up to 2 weeks. Placebo is there, but your body is ALSO used to it.

If you want to use it recreationally still, do it once per month, like me and my meth. And stop there.
If you need to come off it, there’s no shame in spending a month going down 75mg p/d each week

 

[ageingpartyfiend]

You're 28. Starting to hit the point where you're not young anyore and need to pay attention to wellbeing if you wanna be remotely ok when older.

My invitation to you is to veer your meth use away from redose-territory and start going for single-dose sessions. You sound experienced-ish and kinda reasonable dose-wise so perhaps dosing a point or say 150mg at most and making sure you have no access to more until next time may be a plan.

That's if you want to keep your mind and body somewhat intact anyway, which would not be the worst move at all. Some things, when lost, cannot be retrieved. Also, this type of dosing can prolong your love affair with the drug should you so wish - it's a win-win from any angle really. Multiple days with no sleep becomes untenable into your 30's - it's just asking for (serious) trouble tbh

all the best

 

[anything else]

You're 28. Starting to hit the point where you're not young anyore and need to pay attention to wellbeing if you wanna be remotely ok when older.

My invitation to you is to veer your meth use away from redose-territory and start going for single-dose sessions. You sound experienced-ish and kinda reasonable dose-wise so perhaps dosing a point or say 150mg at most and making sure you have no access to more until next time may be a plan.

That's if you want to keep your mind and body somewhat intact anyway, which would not be the worst move at all. Some things, when lost, cannot be retrieved. Also, this type of dosing can prolong your love affair with the drug should you so wish - it's a win-win from any angle really. Multiple days with no sleep becomes untenable into your 30's - it's just asking for (serious) trouble tbh

all the best

I truly appreciate this response, but why particularly untenable in my 30’s?

I know my addictions will stay. I am actively improving it with no more alcohol, but I want to replace it with something.

I want to be healthy, but it’s hard to escape drugs like this with working out instead. It’s also hard because I’m a touring musician and I can access anything.

Genuinely, any extra advice would be helpful.

 

[ageingpartyfiend]

I truly appreciate this response, but why particularly untenable in my 30’s?

I know my addictions will stay. I am actively improving it with no more alcohol, but I want to replace it with something.

I want to be healthy, but it’s hard to escape drugs like this with working out instead. It’s also hard because I’m a touring musician and I can access anything.

Genuinely, any extra advice would be helpful.

A 35 year-olds system and wellbeing will be harmed much more from loss of sleep / overstimulation than a 25 year-olds. It's a fact! Just like the average 25 year old can dance for 8 hours at a rave and be ok where it may take a 35 year old a few days to recover. It's just miles on the clock and a fact of life

Also, heavy stims are just fucking terrible for us on all levels (unfortunate but again, true). So the longer you use, the more damage caused (physical and mental) - which results in the same practice become unsustainable as we age. I know we don't wanna hear this as it gets in the way of our future dopamine-dreams, but again it's an unfortunate reality

EDIT just noticed you say you want to be healthy - well there's no health with stimulant addiction.

You also say that you 'know' your addictions will not go away. You 'know' no such thing brother - it's just the addiction speaking there. You may suspect it to be the case and a part of you would like it to be. But change is inevitable and we cannot predict the future.

Those neural pathways created by heavy stimulant use are deep for sure

 

[anything else]

A 35 year-olds system and wellbeing will be harmed much more from loss of sleep / overstimulation than a 25 year-olds. It's a fact! Just like the average 25 year old can dance for 8 hours at a rave and be ok where it may take a 35 year old a few days to recover. It's just miles on the clock and a fact of life

Also, heavy stims are just fucking terrible for us on all levels (unfortunate but again, true). So the longer you use, the more damage caused (physical and mental) - which results in the same practice become unsustainable as we age. I know we don't wanna hear this as it gets in the way of our future dopamine-dreams, but again it's an unfortunate reality

Thank you for your tactful but blunt honesty mate.

No need to delve into your own life and experience- but do you have any tips to help me achieve the dopamine I seek? I have trauma and severe ADHD, and lack normal levels of dopamine. It’s hard to do anything productive unless I go into an ADHD Black Hole of hyperfixation.

I’d like to find a way to live a balanced life before I’m 35 like you said. I will never not have drugs around me in my career as a musician. I can abstain, but I need advice, and most doctors will just fuck me off because they’re aware I do drugs whenever I want cos of my job.

 

[ageingpartyfiend]

Thank you for your tactful but blunt honesty mate.

No need to delve into your own life and experience- but do you have any tips to help me achieve the dopamine I seek? I have trauma and severe ADHD, and lack normal levels of dopamine. It’s hard to do anything productive unless I go into an ADHD Black Hole of hyperfixation.

I’d like to find a way to live a balanced life before I’m 35 like you said. I will never not have drugs around me in my career as a musician. I can abstain, but I need advice, and most doctors will just fuck me off because they’re aware I do drugs whenever I want cos of my job.

ahh, we have a lot in common

pressed for time rn but I'll get back to you here or by PM soon

 

[anything else]

ahh, we have a lot in common

pressed for time rn but I'll get back to you here or by PM soon

No worries, if you don’t get a reply in 2 hours I’m asleep, I’ll respond in 10 at least though. Thanks mate

 

[ageingpartyfiend]

will be more like tomorrow bro, superbusy

 

[anything else]

will be more like tomorrow bro, superbusy

No rush, I hope you do message me within a few days though because I feel like I could learn from you. Do your thing! Remember I’m on Aussie time so it’s 11:20pm here rn

 

[Jen X]

Yes, i guess is harder the more time you on it, i feel can end addicted to any of them in long term easily (i have abused meth for 10 years with few months of stop), but in short term i felt much more hooked on meth, pregabs was a amazing experience the first times then lost almost all good effects, and turned on - i feel uncomfortable, tense, worried, idk, if i dont dose some pregabs, i feel like-depressed state of mind, worried about nothing... honestly i cant say if its withdrawal or if its only placebo becouse months ago i can forget about pregabs for few days and feel something similar then i remembered i had boxes of that and was like magic (benzos help with anxiety and most symptoms, but i clearly feel the benzos effects, and dont clear all the "withdrawals", pregabalin just make me forget about all that but dont make me feel any kind of high anymore, maybe just when kick 1 of 5 times, but the feeling is very light and short, that confused me, specially the very short lived effect, high effect, becouse in terms of sleep, eat, and depression is a very discrete but amazing help.
Maybe its only placebo, i seen the power of the situations and how the "mind" or ourselves act like shit after my first forced meth withdrawal... it was literally nonexistent, becouse i know i will not have access to the drug for several months (forced rehab, kinda crazy places here in mexico, illegal of course, but i have learned tons of things about myself and my relationship with the drugs thanks to that times, not they learned me, just was incredible how i didnt had ANY withdrawal after 2 days of sleep and eat, and outside when i ran out of meth, i cant even wake up to do my basic needs, for days, until day 5 or something that all my body started to hurt and i need to ask someone for money to get up and do something to keep with the loop.

Thanks to God i learned i was just acting like a pussy and was myself not facing the reality, anyway harder things need to past to know my willpower cuz i used drugs the same day i get out of rehab and almost instantly got that pussy withdrawals again LMAO, thats why i dont discard the effect of lyrica as a placebo, but as last years i have been good in finances (and seen where my relationship with drugs was going, maybe bored about them and got older too) i have not ran out of them for years lol, and dont have any come down or whatever it is...

sorry for my tweaked post, if you can, give me a feedback about the feelings on lyrica, i have never been taking it daily, whatever, im almost sure im not gonna die if i need to stop it blessings to you to Aus

Lyrica is a weird drug. First time I took it I felt drunk/high. Anytime after that I got awful anxiety from it

 

[Fourofakind]

almost a month without log in, thank you for the answer @ausbluelighter95 , just want to agree with @ageingpartyfiend about the ageing and stimulants use.
As i said before, im using since around 21 years old, I remember to have 4 days without sleep if i have enough meth (not so much really..., i guess i have smoked so much more years later with less effect), that gave me paranoid, like hypersensitive to any sound and just want a benzo or alcohol to stop that (wasnt hardcore but was unplaseant).
Exactly, at the age of 30, my need for sleep wasnt affected by meth so much,, and i generally can be awake for more time using, but will be KO most times just few hors after the 24 hrs awake.
Few times, i didnt got any sleep for a day, or almost two, and had several compromises in my business, the clients are annoying mostly, and i remember to be at 8am in my room very depressed almost crying becouse i really want to sleep and need to go work, that time i turned off my phone, then sleep until 3 pm, i feel perfect and the clients wasnt messed so much, anyway, after that experience i have never be able to skip a night without any sleep, sometimes i sleep just 3 hours, but generally i take a nap in the day (involuntary mostly), and go to sleep soon next day.

I really never thinked this will gonna happen one day, its crazy how the drug effects changes trough the time, specially if you are a daily user, and yes, its not enjoyable, use one time a month, its a very good advice, for me... that sounds unreacheable, i dont want, im heavy addicted, my health is very good thanks God.

Take care of yourself