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Opioids Tolerance too high, could use some help

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Fata1221

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Hey everyone,

I'm still fairly new here in terms of posting but I've been using blue light forever to find answers. The amount of knowledge that this place pumps out is second to none.

I'm a long term pain patient unfortunately turned addict and my tolerance is getting to an outrageous level. Over the past few months, Ive made the mistake of using dope here and there whenever I would be short on my scripts. Usually just a few days at a time. Since then, the pills just don't give me the euphoria they used too. The dose I now need to start feeling good, quickly just makes me way too tired and I have to struggle to stay awake. I'm not looking for a sedating, nodding high. I much prefer the slightly energetic, on top of the world feeling I used to get. Dope will still make me feel great without getting too tired but the pills don't. Sorry for the long backstory but I thought it would better help me find an answer.

I have access to monthly scripts of oxy IR 15 mg, OxyContin OP 60 new formula and a smaller amount of hydromorphone IR 8 mg. Currently to get some kind of buzz I need to take say 2 OP 60s usually chopped up to make them work a little faster, combined with 3 of the IR 15s. About an hour or so in I start to feel good but by hour 2 I'm fighting to stay awake. I repeat the OPs every 6-8 hours and the IRs about every 3. Problem is when I take any less, I really don't feel much of anything. The hydromorphone is new and I'm struggling to find any recreational use for it but I did receive help in that regard in a different thread. So I've been snorting those on top of the OPs instead of the 15s but it doesn't change the outcome much.

My question is, what can I do to take a little less and optimize the outcome where I may not get so tired? Potentiation tends to just give me about the same results with slightly less product. Anyone experience the same thing? Is there anything to be done besides taking the dope instead? Taking a break is not an option right now as I'm in 24 hour pain and am awaiting an insane surgery.

Any thoughts and input would be greatly appreciated....
 
Short of stopping for a period of time, there really is nothing you can do to decrease your tolerance.. you can't expect to use high doses of opiates everyday and not develop a tolerance. That's just how it works.

Going to dope, is a horrible choice.. you'll just end up raising your tolerance even further, then your pain pills really wont do anything for you, you'll be strung out on H, and totally fucked.
 
Thanks. That was really helpful....... If you read my post you'd have noticed I said I've made the mistake of using dope. I know it wasn't a good choice but it was what needed to be done at the time and i would do it again if I had to. And I know my tolerance won't just go back. I also said stopping for a while is not an option.

I was looking for some tips that would help me not get so tired. For example: try this combo or timing, try snorting this or whatever instead.
 
Using heroin whilst being able to receive RX opiates legally, is an insanely stupid decision on your part. What if you get caught with the heroin? You will be lucky to be given anti-inflammatories after that. Once your tolerance has been raised to the level of dope, it is game over. Horrible choice, bar none.

Solution; since stopping is out of the equation for you, you have only a few effective choices that would not even come close to the difference a tolerance break could make. You can lower your doses or taper for a while, just trying to stay out of WD and that is it, for about a week or so, then your dosages should work again.

Try caffeine with your dose. Snort all of the Oxy on an empty stomach, I know that it is not oral, but in my experience and empty stomach makes a world of difference, even whilst snorting. Also, I know the BA is higher for oral oxy, but snorting has always induced that euphoria you speak of for me, with a nice rush, without knocking me out. Timing, has to be all at once. Maybe try to save your pills, and instead of using throughout the day, use them at once in one dose at night (if possible).

Try taking an anta-acid beforehand to get some clean potentiation and quicker more efficient absorption.

Nothing else that I can think of really that will not add to sedation.
 
My tolerance to opiates has been permanently altered ever since I went to heroin years ago, I always stay at a level with opiates , preventing me to be non tolerant


I have been busted with heroin along with other drugs while RXed meds such as klonopin, adderall, suboxone, and my doctor never knew...I got locked up 2 months and strolled in his office and he asked why I been absent two months and not getting refills? Told him I was embarrassingly incarcerated, didn't mention why..he continued heat I was on before I went to jail
 
I am in no way saying it was a smart decision. But when your facing brutal withdrawals and the likelihood of being fired from your job for missing work for a week or however long, you do what you gotta do. Jesus. I shoulda left that part out. Just wanted to give the whole situation but I didn't expect all that judgement here.

Moving on, thanks for the suggestions. Saving the dose for all at once isn't really an option, I'm in terrible 24 hour pain so it's gotta be spread out. But I certainly will try some of the other suggestions you have made.
 
Short of stopping for a period of time, there really is nothing you can do to decrease your tolerance.. you can't expect to use high doses of opiates everyday and not develop a tolerance. That's just how it works.

Going to dope, is a horrible choice.. you'll just end up raising your tolerance even further, then your pain pills really wont do anything for you, you'll be strung out on H, and totally fucked.

Nothing more really needs to be said.. You're addicted and your tolerance will not go down unless you stop. The honeymoon phase is over, basically. That's drugs for ya.
 
Nothing more really needs to be said.. You're addicted and your tolerance will not go down unless you stop. The honeymoon phase is over, basically. That's drugs for ya.

I in no way said I expect my tolerance to go down. And thanks for letting me know I'm addicted. I had no idea. I was looking for suggestion to help reduce the sedating effect so it wouldn't make me as tired. Nothing else really. But it doesn't seem like most people have interest in answering that. More interest in announcing the obvious and telling me I shouldn't have done something that its too late to change. So thanks everybody
 
Heroin is always going to be a mystery, what it's cut with, how potent it is, if it's cut with fentanyl or an analogue that can kill you that hour later. Risk of getting caught, ripped off, robbed mugged, beat up, not to mention its BA sucks, so it's snort or IV, and snorting seems to cost too much, last an hr? Minimal pain relief, IV helps pain only so long...
 
What is your problem? You come here and ask people for help, then when they answer your question, you cop an attitude and get sarcastic and condescending? That's not the way to get more help here buddy.. in the future I'll be sure to not even bother answering your threads if that's going to be your attitude, and I'm sure others feel the same way.

So, you don't like the advice, wanna be rude? Fine.

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