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bansheebeat

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Hello,
Let me start by saying that I have always loved psychadelic drugs..acid, shrooms, x, dxm, I enjoy all of them. At least until earlier this year when I ate 4 hits of some real good blotter and did about 2 tenths of mollie in on line. I ended up having the worst time ever, not freaking out but actually feeling like my body was shutting down and i was dying. not to mention at one point reality completely fell apart and i was surrounded by nothing but whiteness. i experienced ego death during this trip.

it was my favorite trip I've ever had regardless of feeling like i was gonna die and being truly horrified, due to the amazing visuals and ego death. however, since then i have been way to scared to trip.

i have ingested a few different substances in small doses since (a half eighth of shrooms, turned out to be mellow and not to bad. i've also tried acid and bigger shroom doses since but they didn't work, got them at bonnaroo so not surprised they were fake.)

But each time as soon as i ingest the substance i immediately regret doing it and find myself hoping i don't trip. anyone else experience this? i really want to get over cause i do love a good trip and find them very cleansing but i just can't ever get over the overwhelming fear. any advice would be awesome..thanks!
 
im no help to you at all im in the same boat..ill be interested to read any replies..ive always loved psycahdelics too basically had the same thing happen but i havent tried them since and i wish i could but...ugh...i dont know.....so sorry thats not gonna help you at all but im with you on that one
 
piebald said:
im no help to you at all im in the same boat..ill be interested to read any replies..ive always loved psycahdelics too basically had the same thing happen but i havent tried them since and i wish i could but...ugh...i dont know.....so sorry thats not gonna help you at all but im with you on that one
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glad someone else is in the same boat. have you attempted to trip since your bad trip?
 
You should take very comfortable doses for a while. That way you will have nothing to worry about and you can learn to trip without fear.
 
you took far too much acid and WAAAAAAAAAAAY too much MDMA to be combining the two.

it sounds like a match made in heaven to combine these two, and it is.
but its extremely dose sensitive.

candyflipping is amazing, but it must be done with a degree of care.

ego death is something nobody can ever really be prepared for, even when your actually trying to achieve it.

i had a similar experience myself which is why im chiming in here. it was my first time ever taking LSD, thinkning it wasnt working after dropping the first two, i assumed they were bunk tabs cos i bought them at a festival (where the following trip happened)

i had bought 14 tabs and thought, fuck it, dropped them all. BIG FUCKING MISTAKE.

that night ended exactly as you described, amazing visuals which descended into nothing but complete and total whiteout.

i was lucky in the fact that i was in my tent when the real business started to happen. i remained there for the rest of the trip.

however had i not been in my tent, the shit may well have really hit the fan.

i came out the other end an extremely lucky guy i think, as i was not afraid to trip again,
and had emerged as my friends described, a totally new person. in a good way.

from that moment on i began a love affair with LSD, HOWEVER ive never had the balls to dose that high again.

i may in the future, but who knows.

i think the reason it didnt go bad was the fact that i knew NOTHING about LSD, or the consequences of what CAN happen if your irresponsible with it. i went in totally naive and fresh.

on the topic of being scared to trip again, thats down to your fears of whatever it is you encountered on that trip.

if nothing comes to mind immediately that is bothering you, or something wrong in your life that your not happy about, then i would tread carefully, as there may well be something lurking in your subconscious that needs to be worked on.

go for it if you feel your ready.

try a small dose of another, less long lasting psych, or a small dose of LSD.

you might surprise yourself, it could just be that you were overwhelmed by what happened.
also, just as an extra safety net, get some benzos, have them on hand for your next trip.

if it all goes south on you, you always have the option of aborting the mission.

if ever im having a rough time with psychs, sometimes it really helps just to know i have the option to cancel it out. just knowing that can make everything so much more manageable
 
It's just the anxiety of the unknown. I'm the same.
Dude, there's nothing to be worried about. The more you think about it the worse it will be :)
Just relaaaaaaaax ;)
 
bansheebeat said:
glad someone else is in the same boat. have you attempted to trip since your bad trip?
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no i havent because that experience was sooo overwhelming its all i think about and i KNOW i would manifest a bad trip simply by worrying you know? I CAN do DMT..no prob with that which is kinda strange because DMT blasts u out of your skull but im ok with DMT...it only lasts a few min...but the thought of 6 hours of a bad trip again...im to scared
 
Slain said:
It's just the anxiety of the unknown. I'm the same.
Dude, there's nothing to be worried about. The more you think about it the worse it will be :)
Just relaaaaaaaax ;)
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thats easier said than done....but your right overthinking it is one sure way to have a shitty time..the other thing to take into consideration is your setting..etc..prob best to not get all fucked up at like camp bisco or something, do it in a chill setting until your more comfortable..although..now that i think about it..ive always been way better in a huge crowd at a show...for some reason thats more comforting than sitting with two people and staring at the stars...so i guess i dont know what im talking about ill shut up
 
i do think psychadelics are SO personal and subjective its a hard thing to discuss...some people meet god-or like the guy that started this thread- go thru major existential crisis, ego dying..all that..and some people see spiders crawling out of the toilet then pass out..who the fuck knows
 
superted: thanks for the advice. funny you mention your first trip story..mine is very similar. it was also at a music festival and i bought 10 hits of acid, ate 3 and waited, felt nothing, ate the other 7 and was out of my mind after that. didn't freak out at all though, it was a beautiful experience. not to mention i got to spend my first acid trip watching a snoop dogg and phish concerts. but i agree, the 4 hits of acid is nothing by itself neither is the mollie, but combined it was a match made in hell, it was also my first time combining the two substances. you're right about the being able to bail out, my girlfriend is prescribed klonopin so it's always nice to know that if things start to go badly i can just pop a couple of those and it'll be okay.

slain: thanks to you too. when i ate the half eighth i was able to do just what you said, relax and just let it happen, i'm just trying to work my way back up to the big doses
 
I went through a period where I was afraid to trip after smoking weed daily for years which made me extremely paranoid. I had a mushroom trip which was not a bad trip but it was just such an overwhelming experience in so many ways (and it was not even a high dosage) that I simply could not bring myself to repeat it no matter how much I wanted to. Every time I would try to trip, I would experience such intense anxiety that I would inevitably put it off to another day.

Thankfully, that passed and recently I have been tripping every week and every trip has been beautiful and good. Instead of feeling overwhelming, they feel therapeutic. This just goes to show you how your state of mind before a trip has such a great influence on the outcome. And I'm not saying you need to be in a good state beforehand, I am not in a good place right now. But I am not paranoid or prone to panicking or being overwhelmed anymore and for me, that makes an enormous difference.

Basically, I think if you simply take a break from tripping for a while (even as long as a few years, perhaps) and return after you are a bit older and have re-adjusted to the sober world, you might find the psychedelic world to be a completely different place and far more inviting and less fear provoking.
 
Mistakenly snorted 50mg of 5-MEO-DMT. Ouch my nose hurts, I think I'm starting to trip, oh shit I'm really tripping, my heart is going to explode, get naked, oh oho oh oh fuck I'm going to die, I'm dying.... don't recall anything for what seemed like forever, but friends say was about 10 mins, I'm dead oh shit, I didn't want to die, accept death and open my eyes, I'm alive... Shit had me scared shitless. I thought I didn't exist anymore and I was in fact dead. I thought I'm going to be one of those people who will be on the news, I fucking suck. I thought this was what its going to be like when the world ends and/or the start of a new human race. I thought this was the devil getting back at mankind.

Its having your soul ripped into two, dying and your dead. I thought about that for the next few hours because I was planning on shrooming that night. I decided to shroom still and I just couldn't stop thinking about it. It kinda wreak my trip in ways. Fast forward to a 2 week later I'm going to do some 2cb. Same thing happens...... I've decided to take a 2month break from tripping at all and the next time I go for it. It's going to half my normal does so I can ease myself back into it :)
 
Last May I ate 3 tabs of extremely good acid, took 25 mgs of 2C-D, and a did a big motherfuckin' fat line of ketamine, and then had a cosmically bad, hell-trip. It was really terrible. After that trip, the frequency of my psychedelic drug use declined significantly. I was scared to trip and go back into any serious psychedelic mindset.

The trip I went on that night was fucking crazy, and I learned a lot. I definitely experienced ego death that night, and wasn't really prepared for it at all. But it scared the fuckin' hell outta me too.

Now, a year later, the urge to trip is finally coming back again a bit. I defintley feel less inclined to take such large doses now though.
 
If you fear a bad trip, having a load of benzos on hand can be a good way to feel safe going in. Just having them can give you a sense of security, knowing that you have a way out if things get too out of hand. I never plan on taking them (and I usually don't) but having them there puts my mind at ease especially when going really deep into the rabbit hole.

While benzos don't completely kill a trip they will chill you out. I don't recommend taking high doses of benzos, but if someone is freaking out a 2-4mg xanax dose has been known to help.
 
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