to end a 10 years spell of opiate adiction using mxe, dagga, cannabis and iboga

[cosmic._.ape]

I’m on course to end a 10 years spell of opiate consumption (kratom and poppies).

Two months ago I was doing 4-6 spoonfuls of dry strong white poppies per day. In a couple of weeks I slowly substituted it for kratom, half a spoon at a time, till I fully substituted the effects of the 6 spoonful of poppies with 24 spoonful of kratom.

Then in a month and a half I have been tapering off the kratom. I do this taking 4 kratom doses a day. I take half a dose at 11am, another half a dose at 5pm, then a full dose and a half at 10pm, and finally a full dose at 4am.

I’ve have successfully reduced the pain, mental anguish and other inconveniences to a minumum, using methoxetamine in the morning (usually 2 or three doses of less than 10 milligrams, first dose at breakfast and the last dose before lunch at 2pm)
During the afternoon and evening I’ve been drinking strong wild dagga infusions. I have lots of them plants in the garden and I found out they help a lot with the restlessness, especially when mixed with some cannabis indica.
I’m also using massive amounts of cannabis indica before dinner to be able to sleep at night (luckily I had a great harvest last summer, with 3 different sleeping varieties that i rotate daily to minimise tolerance. I never use cannabis in the mornings or afternoons for the same reason).

So sleep was ok for most of the tapering… I was waking up after 4 hours, but was able to have the planned dose of kratom, smoke some cannabis, and fall back to sleep in about half an hour…

Now that I'm approaching the end, it becomes increasingly harder.
I haven't been very successful at sleeping since last week… have a bit of restless legs in the evenings too, despite the cannabis and the wild dagga (although they help a lot, specially the dagga) I’ve been sleeping less than 4 hours a day for the last 4 days, despite the massive amounts of –according to my friends- very strong, active and effective cannabis indica (orally, made into cannabutter and consequently into delicious cakes or milkshakes... I've already finished a whole big indica plant and half of another... in a month and a half!)

now, to avoid the PAWS of 10 years of strong opiate addiction, I’m planning to try for the first time iboga, so I bought some in a shop today, and I expect to receive it next week. I ordered 15 grams of a powdered root bark that is supposed to contain 4.5% of ibogaine… anyone could give me advise about how to use it? anyone who has already experience iboga?

 

[cosmic._.ape]

so i managed to cut down my kratom consumption to zero

i still have a few doses left in the cupboard, but i haven touched them in a few days. yesterday i didn't feel too bad, i could go out and water the plants in the garden, and received and talk to some friends in the evening for a couple of hours.

...but i couldn't sleep at all last night and now i feel like shit...

still drinking my wild dagga, although the plants are much smaller now, i still have some left to cut, it still works, helps a lot with the restless legs in the evenings and nights. But i feel i have no energy at all... just enough to move my fingers and type

 

[DuckieMan]

This sounds normal to me, I'm at about 2 months off a heavy opiate habit 2+ grams a day daily. I still have huge fatigue, b vitamins help a bit for me, I just force myself to do things I feel the lethargy is more mental at this point for me. But those first 2 weeks I didn't even get out of bed. Even though I was exhausted sleep was almost non existent.

 

[cosmic._.ape]

so after ten days of hellish restless legs, insomnia and zombification... i didn't have energy at all during the days, not motivation, no desire to do anything and, of course, i contemplated suicide...

then i remembered last year i bought some mucuna pruriens beans to grow... i tried to grow them last spring but none of them sprouted... so i forgot about them
until 5 days ago i remembered and, with nothing to lose, decided to give them a try for the first time. I crashed one of the black beans to a powder and mixed it with some milk. didn't noticed much that day, but at night i noticed a reduction in the severity of the restless legs.

I continued having a bean a day, in the same way, and I noticed a gradual increase of energy and reduction of withdrawal symptoms. Then on the third night since i started taking the beans, for the first time in 2 months, i had a good restful sleep. I slept about 7 hours. Waked up with not withdrawals, no paws at all

that was two days ago. Now i am taking only half a bean a day, as I feel well enough and don't want to over do it. I feel great. Nothing sort of miraculous considering how i was feeling just 4 days ago. From total fatigue to feelings of good shape. That's a huge contrast.

haven't received my iboga yet, it is taking much longer that i expected. Anyone knows if it would be ok to mix it with mucuna pruriens?

 

[cosmic._.ape]

last friday at last i got my 15 grams of iboga rootbark. I couldn't try it straight away, because that night was the village wine competition, with over 70 wines to sample... i did almost 40, i think... then i got a few dislocated memories of dancing on the street, there was live music with an amazing vocalist, a local woman who was able to imitate dozens of different artists mostly in a sup[erb way... remember listening her to sing "could this be love" by Marley and think she was better
it could have been the wine (further prove i'm free from my opiates addiction, as i wouldn't have enjoyed the wine otherwise)

woke up saturday dry as hairdryer wind and with a throbbing headache... hangover mouth, just like an ashtray... great. Saturday was the big party in the village, music was gonna be blaring for 24 hours or more... so we went to spend the night the port, in a friend's apartment 600 meters down and a few kilometers far away from the main square where concerts where hold.

woke up at 3 oclock in the morning with restless legs, went out to the terrace overlooking the sea, a few light on the horizon, fishing ships trying to surround the shoal of tuna under their lights
I had a restless leg. Not too bad, just enough to keep me awake, damn one
i didn't bring any mucuna with me, and anyway mucuna would probably stimulate me, and it was too early to gave up on sleep.
I had brought the iboga rootbark with me, but thought it would also be stimulating.
I had a spliff instead. I smoke a few puffs, until it started bothering my lungs. But it didn't calm my restlessness enough.
It was 3:35 now. And i was growing more and more restless, so i thought "fuck it, i'm gonna try the iboga, whatever, at least it will distract me"
I had brought a pre-measure gram with me. A very small bag, like 2 teaspoons of it. I took less than a full teaspoon, like about 40%, which could have been about 400 miligrams. To me it has a flavour reminiscent of liquorised, but quite bitter. After keeping it in my mouth for a while, I drunk it down with the help of glass and a half of water.
Easy.

I think i started to feel the iboga about 20 minutes after i took it. It could be placebo because i was tired, sleep deprived and stoned. Then, 25 minutes after, at 4 oclock, i started to feel better, more focused and calm. The restlessness was gone like if it never existed. My legs were fine. I went to bed and fell slept, waking up at 9 oclock, feeling somehow rested, although slightly weak, like if I had low blood pressure. I thought it could be due to a mix of factors -2nd day hangover (on friday i drunk a good deal of wine, something i very rarely do, as i hate the hangovers), also the weird sleep pattern, and also i smoke a bit too much cannabis during the night, reducing my breathing quality- and not just thanks to the iboga.

At 10am, after breakfast, I had the rest of the iboga -600 miligrams, more or less- i had a good tranquil day. I feel in good spirits and enjoyed the sunday reading, eating healthy food and listening to music. Now I'm going to bed (it is 11pm here) and expect to wake up at 8:30 and have an small amount of mucuna (i choose one of the smallest beans in the bags for tomorrow) with 100miligrams of iboga rootbark, to test the interaction. I'll also have my usual dose of celastro paniculatus.

I'll keep you inform of how it goes next week. I'll have fun

 

[kaya_9]

Nice! Keep it up...it'll be worth it once you're free of that other shit.

 

[cosmic._.ape]

Thanks a lot Kaya, I appreciate your comment

So Iboga makes me sleepy. I've been taking it for 5 days now. First three days I took it in the morning, expecting some stimulant action... i was wrong, it makes me sleepy everytime one hour after consuming it. I've been searching for similar reactions and apparently it is not unheard of, just less common. Some other people also report getting sedation from low Iboga doses (less than a gram of root bark)

Therefore, I changed my consumption pattern, I am taking it late in the evening, at about 9 oclock, two hours before going to bed, and I found it helps me sleep, Iboga induces sleeping on me. Which is great.

I carry on taking mucuna in the mornings, which it is definetly stimulating, and then oral cannabis indica and iboga at night, to sleep. it works as a charm and I feel not withdrawals or post acute withdrawals (paws) at all. All my restlessness is gone, including the one in my legs and mind and sould. No anxiety.

But a new problem has arising, oh! how not...
It could be unrelated. I have developed a kind of sinus infection that blocks my nose and stops me from breathing at ease. It is extremely annoying as it wakes me up and has been keeping me awake for the last two nights. I manage to have a 4 or 5 good sleep hours, with good breathing, but I'd love to sleep 7, 8 or even 10 hours in a row so I can feel fantastic for a while... i feel i deserve it after all this long addicted journey... i sick to my roots from feeling miserable and it seems there's always something else getting in the way between me and feeling completely good..
Today, right now, i am treating my nose blockage by steaming essential oils in the oil burner (eucalyptus, lemon and tea tree) plus drinking a litre of peppermint tea. It helps actually and can breath better.

I read some studies showing Kratom antihistaminic properties...? could this sinus or airways inflammation be cause by some kind of antihistamine rebound effect after years of daily kratom intake? I can't discard such possibility, although of course I'm aware of it being nothing but an untested hypotheses and the real cause can very well be totally unrelated

allright, so to resume, after 5 days taking Iboga and mucuna for paws i feel much better but still brain-fogged by sleep and oxygen deprivation. Still striving to become what I think I used to enjoy being or at least what I would love to be