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TMA-2 - First Time - It Flows

anjovis

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tma-2 - first time - it flows

Fruit salad as a breakfast and very light lunch were todays preparations for the evening.

18.35 I dropped a capsule with 55mg of tma-2. A friend of mine, call him P1, took 64mg, another (P2) 45mg and third friend 40mg (P3). Fourth friend, P4, had taken a little acid earlier. We were at my friends flat sitting on sofas and surrounded by loudspeakers. Flat's owner had prepared a long set of music for the night. The music started and we sat down to chat while waiting for the sacrament to take effect.

19.10 P1 told that he is melting into sofa. I wasn't feeling anything yet.

19.40 I begin to feel the effects now. I go to kitchen to have a glass of water and moving is wavy. Everything that I look at seems to be closer than it really is. Room is large and my vision is sharp.

20.00 The music begins to turn very interesting and I can forget most of the outside world by closing eyes and concentrating on music. I look at the silhouettes of trees through the window. They have become alive, all branches squirming and swirling like an ant hive. Busy trees. Physical feeling is getting extremely sedated, even lethargic. Moving limbs take enormous effort and because of this, we tend to stay still. I am closing the peak with a nice pace.

20.15 Music has turned its character. The music P1 chose to play is very information rich, full of small sounds, glitches, noises and cracks. They fill my head and form very electrically flowing textures that don't seem like just sounds anymore. As soon as I close my eyes I am lost in this flow. Everything, all of my consciousness, begin to go round in circles, music feeding the circus constantly with new information. Eyes closed I cannot tell anymore where I am. Friends, the flat, everything outside these circles keep drifting further and further. Music, smells, images, they all begin to get a form of one unified sensory input flow that circles in space that used to be my mind.

20.40 Something happens. Everything that has been going around in me finds a proper place. All images and thoughts going around my head were a process of finding a correct combination of things, which unlocks something. This something feels like white energy flowing through me. It seems to originate somewhere inside my own body and it flows in all directions at once. It seems to purify me, it feels refreshing. I stretch every now and then, it makes me feel better. When I open my eyes, I have slight difficulties in adjusting to my real world surroundings. Everything seems spacious, yet intimate and close. I find it hard to believe that it has been only 2 hours into this experience now. It is amazing.
Sometimes the music has a sudden break. P1 made that on purpose to wake us back from the deeps and it sure does that. I am mostly unaware of other people's goings. I go to kitchen to take a mandarin, but peeling it turns out to be too difficult task. Luckily P4 is not as high and he peels it in no time. I eat half the mandarin and give the other half to others. Mandarin tastes like nothing else before. It is like the first mandarin I have ever eaten.

22.00 I have not eaten lunch, dinner or any other full dish all day. I am still very high, but I was also becoming weak. I have to eat heavier food soon. I fry three eggs and eat them with some rice pie. I feel much better soon after eating.
I visit nearby shop to buy some more mandarins. In the flat I had not noticed anything very special about the faces of my friends, but in the shop I see all strangers and their faces morphing constantly. All small gestures they make are exaggarated as if stripped out from a cartoon or a grotesque painting. The cashier looks as if this was the last work he would like to do in the whole world. His arms twist and stretch when he takes money and gives change.
Soon after that we decide to have a walk outside. Fresh air feels good and we wander through the city for two hours, stopping to grab some pizza and watching ducks swimming in the river. Ducks reminds of how most people are, going around life like ducks swim in circles.
We arrive back to the apartment around 01.30 and by that time I am down considerably. The rest of the night we spend discussing what has happened. We go to bed after 5am and I sink into sleep through colourful visions sometime before 6am. The next day is bright, happy and I feel refreshed.

Conclusion, to me tma-2 is simply excellent material. It was quite lethargic at the peak, but mentally very clear and flowing. It was not pushing me much anywhere, but given the right circumstances, like we had, closing eyes and concentrating got me very deep. The trip seemed to change its character some halfway through the trip. Some of my friends had very strong experiences too, although the cannabis that they smoked all the time helped also. This was good amount, but if I would have to spend any longer time at some social enviroment where are outsiders, I'd have to take less or uncomfortable moments would be unavoidable. There is not much more I can say, it can take me to there. This was one of the best trips I've had.

About the dosage: Some of my friends have taken numerous trips on this and for most people, weighing 70-80kg, 50mg is a good spot. For some people 40mg is well enough, like P3 here was very impressed. For some, tma-2 seem not just powerful enough to bring them all they want, like for P1 here. I've heard of vomiting once, P2 here had some stomache problems later in the night, but apparently nothing major. Some are not always so enthusiastic about the lethargic feeling it can bring. All in all, tma-2 seem to have very few physical problems.
 
TMA-2 is very interesting stuff - somewhat quirky with a shamanic edge - I can imagine the effects in the dosage range you give could be stunning - unfortunately as the dosage neared 40mg there was some amphetamine roughness that prevented me going further. a bit rough edged but otherwise very good. would love to try TMA-6
 
tma-2 is a very cool material. resembles mescaline in some ways although is a bit more toxic. its too bad though cos it had greatpotential gor entheogenesis but the bodyload past 50mg just forbids that. below that at 40-50mg it's really great chem. i think anjovis found the right word 'flowing' to describe its character. its exactly how ive always felt about this phen. flowing ! i call it the black and white psychedlic as it tends to visually enhance contrasts of white and black more than other psychedelics and creates transparent crystalline visuals -including fractals ! Crystaline fractals, just gorgeous ! combine this with a great mdma-like body/mind feel and you've got an almost winner. the only draw back is when you're starting to reach the really interesting territories, it just gets unbearable somatically.
 
I felt it was pretty easy on the body. Some jaw clenching and that overly relaxed feeling, otherwise.. pure psychedelia. Perhaps some day I'll see what 70-80mg looks like.
 
Excellent!
Brilliant descriptions of a very interesting compound.
 
I've had the opportunity to try TMA-2 on a number of occasions and have used it both alone and mixed with a number of other chemicals.

MY first experience with it was nuts. I never knew what to expect and was unsure of the dosage level. My dealer sold me 2 caps at 50mg each. I ate the first cap and went midnight bowling for a while. I found the effects to be like a mixture of E and mescaline. About an hour and a half into the trip, I was feeling unreal. Then another friend comes up and hands me a hit of E. I was feeling great at the time, but I've always been one to push the limits. I ate the hit of E and the other caps of TMA-2. I was easily a plus 2 possibly plus 3 by the time I ate the other cap and E. Within the next hour, I was lifted out of this world. Well, thats kinda of a lie. It wasn't like a full blown psychedelic trip on acid or mushrooms, not quite the mystical experience. About 5 hours after my first dose, I was still a definate plus 4. I was amazed at how long the stuff was lasting. As for my mental state at the time, I was actually able to think somewhat clearly. All my hallucinations (which mostly consisted of patterns on the walls) were of a polygonal nature. People's faces were the most noticible for the hallucinations. Remember the way computer graphics used to look when they first started with human faces in polygons??? Thats the way everybody's face looked to me. Definately an amazing experience, but, probably a little too much.
 
^^ This is an old practise of TR, by creating a focus on a chemical and stickying them at the top for a period of time. It's always good to read a few different perspectives on the same drug :)
 
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