I've got a titanium nail that I'm interested in using with dmt. I'm going to attempt a breakthrough dose say 60-70mg with a fat ass glab of wax as well. Will be hitting it through a dave goldstein fritted disk bong with nearly no watter in it so it bubbles minimally. Anyone else have experience with dmt in this method? Probably will be attempting it within the next few hours will let everyone know how it goes. For Science!
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Titanium nail/ bho rig with dmt?
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Please give an elaborate description, using a titanium nail in conjunction with DMT says nothing to me so please elucidate whether you are planning to ram yourself in the face with the nail, use it as an agent for vaporisation or otherwise.
I will say that my current favorite method is any one that involves using a metal mesh to distribute heat and melting product. Such as the 'machine' uses or just a regular bong with cured choreboy.
I will say that my current favorite method is any one that involves using a metal mesh to distribute heat and melting product. Such as the 'machine' uses or just a regular bong with cured choreboy.
whataboutheforests
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I think this video will describe what a Titanium nail is better than words can.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHddMaZk0iU
I was actually just talking about this with a friend last night. It seems like it would work, IDK if i would want to hit it with a huge dab of wax/concentrate though. I think I would just "dunk" my dose of DMT on the nail, making sure not to heat it up too hot. I would love to hear about the results of this experiment.
Also, kind of off topic but can you elaborate on the whole "bubbles minimally" thing? Ive heard you want less water in your bong when dabbing but why exactly is this?
Those temperature seem very worrying for oxidation so if any effect result they might all need to be contributed to DMT N-oxide...
The video doesn't really decribe or explain the physics which I am interested in indeed. It seems like it strives far far beyond our needs which are met with metal mesh. If you think that this method involving a titanium nail is more than novelty, please let us know why?
The video doesn't really decribe or explain the physics which I am interested in indeed. It seems like it strives far far beyond our needs which are met with metal mesh. If you think that this method involving a titanium nail is more than novelty, please let us know why?
Well this is the fucking way to vaporize dmt holy shit, that was intense I did 100mg considering my tolerance from an experiment a few days a go and wow it was intense. I heated the nail up red hot with a propane torch and as soon as it was no longer visibly red touched 100mgdmt covered in a fair amount of wax to the nail. Vaporized instantly left a very thick resin on the dome and nail maybe needed to be hit a little sooner when it was hotter. I used a very minimal amount of water in the bong it barely bubbled but I'm wondering how much dmt it has absorbed. The fritted disk if you don't own one bubbles a lot even barely filled with water, It's already clogged with bho/dmt/2c-e resin oh yeah I decided to throw some 2c-e in the mix down the road. Dumped 30mg (hcl too) out of a plastic scooper onto the nail vaporized/burned (who the fuck knows it wasn't harsh at all) then hit a dab as well hit the 2c-e sooner then the first experience the nail was still just a tiny bit red the nail had cooled by the time I took the dab but still worked perfectly fine for bho. Tolerance is a bitch when vaporizing so the 2c-e wasn't that intense but still gave for an interesting experience. Can't say for the efficiency of these methods but I Imagine the glass piece I have that bubbles a lot less might work better and having no tolerance as well. So I'll try this in a couple weeks out of a different piece. I've got a phase-2 hitman (with a dome-less nail) if anyone's curious hit's can be fairly harsh with if they are large so it should hit harder with the dmt the goldstein was as smooth as inhaling air. I'm gonna have a few test subjects with no dmt experience whatsoever and no tolerance to psychedelics give this a shot and see how it goes and report back here. I'll probably use the phase 2 for the others as well, maybe even not filling it with water, probably would be pretty harsh.
If anyone else has access to these concentrate type tools I would be interested in any experience you have with them regarding dmt and other psychedelics. I've used them successfully for nbome's in the past as well, but that was a fairly long time ago tolerance was no factor from the nbomes considering this dmt trial.
Will edit this post when I'm sober so it makes some sense
If anyone else has access to these concentrate type tools I would be interested in any experience you have with them regarding dmt and other psychedelics. I've used them successfully for nbome's in the past as well, but that was a fairly long time ago tolerance was no factor from the nbomes considering this dmt trial.
Will edit this post when I'm sober so it makes some sense
Uhm, well glad you had a good trip but the 2C-E obscures a lot and the rather high dose of DMT leaves us wondering whether your product is very impure or if a lot of product is lost in the process or if it is rather that the lot of it is transformed into the N-oxide making it less potent than it would "ordinarily" be.
So in short, it sounds cool that you tried this method but it still leaves us very unclear as to the efficiency of it.
So in short, it sounds cool that you tried this method but it still leaves us very unclear as to the efficiency of it.
Bubbling minimally means that basically the water level of my bong is just barely touching the bottom of the fritted disk. If you don't own one it's like a honeycomb disc, when you suck and the water is just below it still bubbles through the perc but just a tiny bit. Its perfect for concentrates. The dave goldstein gets clogged quite often I used the phase 2 far more often for wax.
If you had a tree perc you would basically have the water just over the slits, same applies for any kind of perc really. I only have 2 concentrate pieces sadly both of which are water filtered. I saw a titanium nail piece that was dry in a store before didn't grab it thou not sure if my nail would fit payed out the ass for a nail. Aqualab raids your fucking wallet but these are some pretty damn awesome purchases and worth it in my opinion.
If you had a tree perc you would basically have the water just over the slits, same applies for any kind of perc really. I only have 2 concentrate pieces sadly both of which are water filtered. I saw a titanium nail piece that was dry in a store before didn't grab it thou not sure if my nail would fit payed out the ass for a nail. Aqualab raids your fucking wallet but these are some pretty damn awesome purchases and worth it in my opinion.
Yeah I had a tolerance from as dmt experience of 100mg 3 days prior so that has something to do with the lack of intensity the dmt seems to be of pretty good quality 50mg with no tolerance had me near breakthrough cause I fucked up smoking it and had to take way too many hits instead of one. I'm gonna have a friend who was willing to smoke dmt try it in this manner he has no tolerance to psychedelics and actually I have a few willing subjects more than likely so in the coming days I'll report on how efficient this method is.
I don't mean to break your spell but who considering the doses of the products you used who really knows how well it works. Maybe these pseudo-technical details are valuable to some, but I am rather interested to hear what the difference is between for example 30 mg inhaled using a regular device compared to 30 mg of the same product using this nail (for example).
Never vaporized 2c-e before so who know how well that worked efficiency wise, I just kinda threw that in their for fun. The 2c-e was sampled orally at 20mg weeks prior and wasn't found to be disappointing at that dosage. Tolerance plays a huge factor in these experiments. That's why I have a few friends who will be willing to try dmt give it a try in this method. I don't know if I'll be able to convince them to do breakthrough doses of 50-60mg but we'll see what happens. Don't plan on wasting anymore 2c-e vaporizing it as it's much more fun and longer lived orally.
Also the quality of the dmt is suspect as well it was obtained from a reliable source with reliable reviews but no one listed anything about their dosages my experiments haven't been disappointing at all I need to space mine out more that's about it.
It's yellow powder clumps fairly well smells like purple Or kinda like tortillas according to one of my friends.
Also the quality of the dmt is suspect as well it was obtained from a reliable source with reliable reviews but no one listed anything about their dosages my experiments haven't been disappointing at all I need to space mine out more that's about it.
It's yellow powder clumps fairly well smells like purple Or kinda like tortillas according to one of my friends.
Sorry, superficial descriptions cannot really be used to get an accurate picture of purity but I do agree that tolerance can place a part and that replicating results is vital when trying to confirm any result. Expect results to vary wildly because we are talking about a subjective experience with variance at a level of a lot of factors like efficiency of method et cetera...
Yeah the results from the test subjects will be interesting. I'll be testing more dmt freebase in 1-2 individuals with no psychedelic tolerance or experience with dmt over the next couple days. Gonna use both the titanium nail rigs I have maybe go invest in a dry nail rig so that the dmt can't be filtered out by the water at all. Should be interesting to see if this is a viable method for consumption of freebase because it's ridiculously convenient if you already own one of these rigs.
Anon0631
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I have vaporised 15mg of 2c-e freebase and it was one of the strongest phenethylamine trips I ever had. If you found 30mg to be moderate, you almost certainly wasted most of it via pyrolysis. This is probably a good thing as the alternative is an unimaginably intense trip/overdose.
You seem pretty reckless OP. You also seem to be concerned a bit too much by equipment. I hope you don't end up killing yourself.
And by the way, DMT freebase is not soluble in water.
You seem pretty reckless OP. You also seem to be concerned a bit too much by equipment. I hope you don't end up killing yourself.
And by the way, DMT freebase is not soluble in water.
I did 30mg HCL salt, hcl degrades at high temperatures so it makes sense that it would destroy a lot of the product. I only did the 2c-e because I found the 100mg dmt to be underwhelming The experience overall was not a full breakthrough dose like I had hoped but I think it's impossible to do a breakthrough dose with tolerance, and the only other options I had were nbomes and dom dom last too fucking long sometimes and 2c-e was my only choice despite the HCL form. I also may have consumed 1 -2 mg of alprazolam that day. I have a high tolerance however for alprazolam 6-8mg is a dose I would need to get fucked up 1mg is just to chill out a tiny bit. But I'm uncertain as to where or not I consumed the alprazolam. If i did than it definitely explains the lack of intensity in the experiences.
3-4 days prior to 100mg dmt 30mg 2c-e I had consumed 50mg dmt in a steam roller sandwiched between weed I fucked up smoking it and took way too many hits I felt otherworldly but i was still grounded in reality enough. I smoked another 50mg through a low filtration bong sandwiched between weed taking 8-10 hits to clear the whole thing which was probably another reason I didn't breakthrough the way I was smoking was highly inefficient.
Making a machine is a fucking pan in the ass and inhaling steel wool doesn't sound healthy so I would like to avoid that. In a 2-3 weeks when my tolerance has died down significantly I would like to vaporize 100mg dmt in one whole lung full of smoke. How could this be achieved easily in your guys past luck? I think the nail is working fairly efficiency it's just a matter of my tolerance being high.
I'm really interested in equipment because a lot of people are getting access to concentrate tools all around the world I live in a non medical state and find concentrate tools in smoke shops all the time now. Concentrates are overpriced as fuck in person but you need connections.
Also has anyone experience combining MET and DPT with DMT? I will be receiving some of those in the coming weeks. I really want to save my next dmt trip in 2-3 weeks with no tolerance for a large dose DMT + DPT or MET + DPT, Does anyone have any experience with these combo's? MET is literally one carbon molecule different than DMT and it happens to be active orally which is crazy for such an insignificant change. Maoi's appear to be a bitch to get without ordering syrian rua/cappi vine. Would St John's wort and Passion flower be suitable enough maoi's for dmt in anyone's opionion? What about combing a mild maoi drug like AMT 20-30 minutes before the dmt with passion fower and St. John's wort would that be a powerful enough maoi effect for the DMT Freebase?
3-4 days prior to 100mg dmt 30mg 2c-e I had consumed 50mg dmt in a steam roller sandwiched between weed I fucked up smoking it and took way too many hits I felt otherworldly but i was still grounded in reality enough. I smoked another 50mg through a low filtration bong sandwiched between weed taking 8-10 hits to clear the whole thing which was probably another reason I didn't breakthrough the way I was smoking was highly inefficient.
Making a machine is a fucking pan in the ass and inhaling steel wool doesn't sound healthy so I would like to avoid that. In a 2-3 weeks when my tolerance has died down significantly I would like to vaporize 100mg dmt in one whole lung full of smoke. How could this be achieved easily in your guys past luck? I think the nail is working fairly efficiency it's just a matter of my tolerance being high.
I'm really interested in equipment because a lot of people are getting access to concentrate tools all around the world I live in a non medical state and find concentrate tools in smoke shops all the time now. Concentrates are overpriced as fuck in person but you need connections.
Also has anyone experience combining MET and DPT with DMT? I will be receiving some of those in the coming weeks. I really want to save my next dmt trip in 2-3 weeks with no tolerance for a large dose DMT + DPT or MET + DPT, Does anyone have any experience with these combo's? MET is literally one carbon molecule different than DMT and it happens to be active orally which is crazy for such an insignificant change. Maoi's appear to be a bitch to get without ordering syrian rua/cappi vine. Would St John's wort and Passion flower be suitable enough maoi's for dmt in anyone's opionion? What about combing a mild maoi drug like AMT 20-30 minutes before the dmt with passion fower and St. John's wort would that be a powerful enough maoi effect for the DMT Freebase?
Anon0631
Bluelighter
Two peices of advice:
1) put away the brandnamed equipment and learn to smoke DMT.
2) stop throwing everything you can find at your body in an attempt to get fucked up.
1) put away the brandnamed equipment and learn to smoke DMT.
2) stop throwing everything you can find at your body in an attempt to get fucked up.
You cannot inhale steel wool because it does not liquify let alone evaporate at reasonable doses.
However you should heat the steel wool before use to remove residu oils on it. They will fume off soon enough, after a while everything will be reduced to carbon, steel and gases that left off. Then it's fine, though for a while traces might be noticeable though this is relatively innocuous. And any metal you would taste is a result of redox processes facilitated by metal (which is how humans taste metal), not the metal itself.
Smoking weed, or smoking DMT and pyrolyzing a portion of it, both of that is harmful to your lungs - don't kid yourself. So a smoking technique that is actually meant to vaporise DMT without regard to weed is the safe and efficient strategy here. Hyped up weed smoking techniques are not necessarily relevant.
And yes take it easy.
However you should heat the steel wool before use to remove residu oils on it. They will fume off soon enough, after a while everything will be reduced to carbon, steel and gases that left off. Then it's fine, though for a while traces might be noticeable though this is relatively innocuous. And any metal you would taste is a result of redox processes facilitated by metal (which is how humans taste metal), not the metal itself.
Smoking weed, or smoking DMT and pyrolyzing a portion of it, both of that is harmful to your lungs - don't kid yourself. So a smoking technique that is actually meant to vaporise DMT without regard to weed is the safe and efficient strategy here. Hyped up weed smoking techniques are not necessarily relevant.
And yes take it easy.