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Tips to NOT getting ripped off and having money stolen from you in drug deals

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Ok so I guess this might or might not fall into harm reduction but I think it's probably fair game to discuss and there is some harm reduction involved int terms of not being stolen from or taken advantage of.

I live near NYC but haven't been there for years because I am just really not street savvy, get lost and confused easily so for a while I wasn't as into going there.

But of course NYC rules so I decided to go to the Metropolitan Museum of Art today.

I started by taking 18.5mgs of Kratom and several cups of strong coffee and 2mgs of Klonopin and hopped the train to grand central.

Once i got to grand central I'd forgotten they serve drinks there so I got mildly drunk while still being on Kratom and awake to some extent from some coffee.

Then i wanted weed so I went to <no locations of your open air markets please> but it's been a long time since I've just gotten drugs from a stranger without knowing whether or not I can trust the guy.


But when I am significantly high on Kratom and/or drunk ESPECIALLy the combo with some extra Klonopin, I have no fear approaching anyone.

I went to <no locations of your open air markets please> and immediately an older guy in his 50s caught me and asked if I needed weed.

I said yeah and we walked to a CVS and outside I looked at what he had, which was really about a gram he was charging a fucking CRIMINAL charge of $40 for but because I almost NEVER smoke I said yes.

But I had all these different bags of Kratom in my pocket because I'd weighed out a whole bunch of different amounts.

And I was drunk on the street and not wanting to make a scene so I paid him and just stuffed the weed in a bag but whether or not it was ever really in there to begin with I don't know.

Cause then we went to <no locations of your open air markets please> and I smoked a bowl and then was totally high on weed and Kratom and drunk and out of it.

Then this mother fucker told me he had blotters, and my stupid drunk ass just believed him.

He convinced me to pay him $40 for what I now realize are just 5 tiny pieces of paper with nothing fucking on them!! (GOD I AM MOTHERFUCKING STUPID!!!)

WHY I believe him I don't know.

It has been so long since I'd been to the city that finding ANY amount of weed was exiting to me and I REALLY wanted to believe he had real acid.

I mean we exchanged numbers and he fucking told me to call him back whenever I wanted more so i figured if we'd be in touch he could be trusted.

He even helped me hail a cab and told the driver I was a bit drunk to watch out for me!!

And then that was it.

I went to the MET museum for art high and drunk as shit, and in the cab looked and realized all I had mixed in with my Kratom was about 1/6th of a bowl.

So I know I smoked a bowl, but there should have been another gram in the there.

The thing is, I'm NOT into doing drug deals on the street.

I like to find a place to go inside and WATCH the dealer weigh my shit out, but I'm wondering what you guys think about it.

How could I, even in my drunk high state, have realized that he was just fucking conning me??

What should I do if I am ever in that situation again to avoid being robbed??

I am sure it won't be the last time I try to find weed by myself in the city and I used to pull it off ALL the time 20 years ago as a teen, but without having been to NYC for several years no I either forgot what I knew about being careful or really, I probably never knew in the first place.

I am on the autism spectrum (non-verbal learning disability...similar to Asperegers) so I have trouble reading social cues and get lost easily, so I am easily taken advantage of in these situations.

So if you guys were in my place and DID want to attempt to get weed from someone you never met in a park and wanted to make sure you DID NOT get ripped off, and either buy something or not buy it at all???

What signs should I look for to realize I am being ripped off??

Thanks
 
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Please don't post locations of the places you go to score (open air markets), it's against the rules. Avoid this in the future or I'll have to close this post. I editted it out for you this once but now that you have been warned I won't go so easy on you if you break the same rule again. Fair warning :)

OT: If you buy from a random dude, check out the product thoroughly before you give them ANY money, and only when you are 100% convinced it is legit, hand over your money. But I never buy from strangers tbh. I did once when I was like 16 and stupid and naive, and I got ripped off. I learned my lesson after that. I rather not score anything than run the risk of being ripped off, because most of those 'strangers' who hang out at hotspots and 'help you out out of the kindness of their heart', even if they charge a little (to seem less sketchy) WILL rip you off, usually to feed their own habits. I get my connects via friends or good acquintances that I trust not to rip me off, and only if someone I know well enough vouches for a person will I deal with them. Otherwise I just don't risk it. But then again, here in Belgium there aren't any 'hoods' you can just go to score (like open air markets that actually serve real drugs), well there are some in Brussels I hear, but I live too far from there to go there to score, especially if I can score closer to home via connects I get from people I trust.

So yeah, if you're really desperate there are some neighbourhoods in the US one can go to to score I think? But the chances of getting ripped off there are still quite big unless you know someone to introduce you I imagine. (Don't quote me on that, I've no experience with scoring drugs in the US at all, just here in Belgium). I would never buy from a stranger, I'd rather not score. If I'm dopesick and someone offers me an opiate I can verify I might buy some, but I would never buy a large amount of a stranger, plus that has never happened before. Here you basically have to know people if you want to score. Cocaine can be found relatively easily via strangers, but usually it's cut to shit or just straight up shit..

TL;DR - Anyway, I'd say don't buy from strangers ever. Always try to go via friends who have access to the drug you're looking for. Even if it means you have to wait a few days to score, it's better than losing your money or getting shitty - cut to shit product.
 
It depends. I've bought from total strangers at least 3 times since I've been back on the (north)east coast, and it's been legit every single time. The last time I bought I picked up some of the best heroin I've ever tried and it cost me <No prices! you should know this!>. So it can be worth it, for sure. If you're in NYC you're in close proximity to several of the most renowned open-air drug markets in the United States...and that's all I can say about that...

Of course it's better to have a good working relationship with a dealer, where you can go over to the individuals house or vehicle and conduct the transaction in a casual, non-sketchy manner...buying drugs on the street is always risky. But sometimes that's not an option. The only thing you can do is get a good look at whatever you're intending to buy...if the person in question is unwilling to let you take a good look at the shit, that's a huge red flag.
 
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^Yeah exactly, you should be allowed to look, smell and ideally even taste it before you buy it when you do buy off strangers. If they won't let you tell them nvm.
 
Burnt Offerings said:
It depends. I've bought from total strangers at least 3 times since I've been back on the (north)east coast, and it's been legit every single time. The last time I bought I picked up some of the best heroin I've ever tried and it cost me <no prices>. So it can be worth it, for sure. If you're in NYC you're in close proximity to several of the most renowned open-air drug markets in the United States...and that's all I can say about that...

Of course it's better to have a good working relationship with a dealer, where you can go over to the individuals house or vehicle and conduct the transaction in a casual, non-sketchy manner...buying drugs on the street is always risky. But sometimes that's not an option. The only thing you can do is get a good look at whatever you're intending to buy...if the person in question is unwilling to let you take a good look at the shit, that's a huge red flag.
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heroin is going for <No prices, I know you're just responding to someone else stating a price but as a '13 member you should also be aware of this rule!>? what the fuck? I mean I'm sure its pure fentanyl but still cheap
 
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Hahaha, I refer to Jersey as the "traphouse of New York"

As I was telling someone earlier, it seems to be comprised of 1) suburbia, and 2) some of the grimiest ghettos ever
 
There's also
3) those factories that make McDonald's fries taste like animal fat
4) all the other chemical and industrial plants

but you're right about NJ being the trap of NY lol
 
Sorry I didn't realize that you shouldn't mention locations.

Won't happen again.

I don't use heroin by the way.

Well, there's more to the story.

NOW I think I PROBABLY dropped the weed while drunk before getting in the cab.

I mean he DID let me smoke it, and he gave me his number, so it doesn't make sense to me he'd let me sample it, give me his number and take mine, hail me a cab, and even in my drunk state somehow have the slight of hand to take it from me after selling it to me without me knowing.

Does it make sense to you guys??

Do you think he stole from me or that I dropped it being drunk, confused, and in an area I never go in the dark rushing to jump in a cab??

BUT...then the thing was, later that night, after taking some Fluro-phenibut and more Kratom, I took THREE of the "blotters" of acid and they DIDN'T FUCKING WORK!!

Now, it's been a LONG time since I have taken acid, so if you don't leave them long enough on your tongue till they TOTALLY dissolve will they just not work AT ALL??

What about if you swallow them accidentally??

Cause what I know for sure is that I DID NOT spit ANY of the 3 hits out.

I left them on my tongue for probably a good 10 minutes, maybe a little more or a little less, and I know for a fact I accidentally swallowed at last one before it dissolved.

I most likely swallowed all 3 before they'd COMPLETELY dissolved but wouldn't they work anyway??

This is a question only blotter-acid users would know obviously.

I mean I won't deny that while I like shrooms as I've done them more, I am not so comfortable with acid, so part of me kind of DIDN'T want them to work, even though I still took them and left them in my mouth for a while...so I am wondering if somehow I subconsciously did something to make them NOT work like swallow them too quickly or something??

Is that even possible??

Or would they work if I swallowed them??


Cause I kept calling and texting this guy and asking him why he stole from me and first he called me back the next day and said "I'm not a thief, I don't have to do that, so just call me if you want to talk"

But then a few days later I was high on Kratom and confident and thought "I'm gonna give this asshole a piece of my mind and text him and tell him I know he fucked me over".

So I text him and I'm like "how dumb could you be to sell to me, then steal from me but give me your number anyway??!!! Tell me how you fucking stole it. Did you switch the weed for something else?? Yada yada yada"

Then this 56 years old Italian douchebag (I mean I'm trained in martial arts and could have given this guy a FREE SHOT and beaten his ass" he calls me and starts yelling at me like "you stupid motherfucker!! You faggot!! I didn't steal from you!! You dropped the weed in the cab or something!! Don't you Ever fucking type that shit on my phone!! etc etc....And i go "YEAH, then why didn't the fucking acid work??!!" and he goes "I don't know, maybe you did something to it??"

And I just yelled at him "you stole it and I know it" and hung up and deleted his number.

Even though now I am thinking that more likely than not I dropped the weed...I am not so sure, because he was selling me like $15--$20 worth for $40 (why I agreed I don't know, I was drunk) and the acid didn't work.

And the thing is I fucking HATE confrontation, and it REALLY upset me to have this sketchy fucker yelling and cursing at me.

Now I'm PISSED though cause this guy SAID he could get me Ketamine, Shrooms and Oxycodone, and I've never done K and always wanted to and love the other two.

I'm wondering if I missed my ticket but I don't DARE try to find this guys number now (I scratched it out on a piece of paper in my room so it would be hard to see it anyway) and call him back.

My little brother yelled at me telling me I was stupid to get myself into a situation like that, to just get drunk and go into a park in a big city at night and ask some sketchy dude for drugs.

He said he knew a guy who did something similar and the guy just pulled a knife and was like "actually, I'm taking all your money and NOT giving you the drugs"....so would you guys agree with my brother that this is something I should AVOID doing again??

Seems like you do...it's just that it's not always easy to meet people who sell good drugs, and while I live near NYC I don't know anyone there with connections like this guy SEEMED to have.


So now that you heard the whole story, I am curious if you guys think he stole the weed or I dropped it, and if the acid was fake since I didn't work even though I had it on my tongue and swallowed it, and whether you'd agree NOT to try this sort of thing again....especially while drunk in a park at night...(7:30PM or so...but still...)
 
I have to admit, it's fucked up but part of me WANTS to believe he ripped me off, because I don't want to think that I had actually scored perfectly good weed and dropped it in my drunk state, and had perfectly good acid but didn't leave it on my tongue long enough...

I'd feel like a complete ASS if I really pulled off a decent deal and fucked it up myself.

Then again, I had 2 hits of acid left I could have tried after the other 3 didn't work, but as I said, I don't have anxiety over taking shrooms, but I do over acid sold by a sketchy dude, since I have had a couple semi-bad trips on acid before, but NEVER on shrooms.

So for that reason, after the sketchy guy yelled at me, I was no longer comfortable taking the other 2 hits and flushed them...which may have been stupid since I NEVER get access to acid, but oh well...
 
Acid works, even if you swallow it. If it was 25i-nBOMe, swallowing it makes the BA so low that it hardly works (if you even notice it). So if it was LSD it should have worked. So if you took 3 hits and felt nothing, it was not LSD.

Regarding the weed.. If he sold you fake LSD chances are he ripped you off with the weed too. The only time I ever got ripped off was by a guy who did have some weed on him (really good weed too), let me toke up and smoked a joint with me, and then ended up ripping me off by giving some green crap that looked like weed wrapped in plastic. Could be that this guy just let you have a taste of good weed, only so you would believe you were buying (good) weed while giving you garbage, or nothing.
 
Thanks.

Well it was an important lesson to learn, not to mess with sketchy people I don't know asking for drugs, so hopefully I will remember in the future as worse things can happen than getting ripped off.

I'm almost GLAD you think I was stolen from and that you don't think I dropped the weed, because part of me didn't want to believe I couldn't hold onto my drugs haha.

And also, I don't have to feel bad for calling the guy out on ripping me off.

So if the LSD was fake, that was $40 stolen from me, then another $20 even if I DID drop the weed cause I paid like twice the amount I should have cause I was drunk and didn't care, and I tend to think he could have swiped the weed from me.

How people have that kind of slight of hand I don't know, but dealing with a drunk person in the dark it might not be that hard.

Why he'd have given me his number was beyond me.

That's scary the thought of NBOMES as those can kill and I'm on an SSRI too...so I should be glad I swallowed it, but I bet it was just paper with nothing on it.

I won't make this mistake again, that's for sure.
 
IVLeague said:
Op you are newblet don't try to cold cop anymore for your own safety newb
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Newb??

Dude, I've been using drugs for 20 years idiot.

I'm in my mid 30s.

I've used everything from coke to weed to Opium, to Nitrous, Oxycodone, Hydrocodone, Dexadrine, Acid, Shrooms, Salvia, Kratom, Phenibut, F-Phenibut, Morning Glory Seeds, Prolintane, and plenty of other shit too.

I just get super confident on the combination of Kratom and Alcohol and the thing is, I used to live in a college town where I could walk straight up to people and ask for weed because everyone was a hippy and I could get away with it and the worst that would happen was people would say no, so I kind of forgot the risk in other areas.

I'm FAR from a fucking noob when it comes to drugs, especially coming from a guy with FOUR fucking posts haha.

I bet I've done more drugs than you have (which ISN'T something to brag about), and if I haven't then that's a good thing, cause it would mean you use heroin and shit I won't touch.

I'm admittedly naive and expect not to get ripped off as I am just too trusting by nature, but it didn't help that for many years, both in college and then after college, I lived in areas where there was next to zero risk of asking strangers for drugs...MUCH unlike NYC.

So fuck off.
 
Burnt Offerings said:
You should try a delivery service next time. Good way to get weed if you're in NYC.
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Yeah, I'd like to, but I don't actually live in NYC, just near there, so I don't know any delivery service like that or how they work.

If I eventually DO move there I would assume I could find a hook up somehow.

Kind of sucks living close but not actually IN the city.

On the one hand, I am not so sure I'd want to actually be there ALL the time with all the noise.

On the other, even only being an hour's train ride away from Manhattan, where I live is still a SUPER boring suburb, and I don't have many friends in NYC, so basically that's why I just went searching aimlessly.

I would like to try to maybe live there for a short period of time, but I have heard the rent is really high.

Certainly it's one of the most exciting places in the world, and I need to start taking advantage of it and learning the ropes of the city I've lived near for so long lol.

I used to hang out there a lot when I was young and had a couple friends there, then moved away and last contact and didn't actually go to the city for many years.

It's a great place.

I just need a couple people to go out with to show me what's up so I don't have to figure it out myself...
 
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