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Tips on inducing visuals?

skatr0830

skatr0830

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Hey everyone :) I've been using 2ci/e as well as 4acodmt in hopes of some pretty eye candy to accompany the experience but its all been oev-less and cev's are just minor.

Now I've heard that visuals need inducing to coax them out so do you guys have any tips on how to do that? Fantastic board btw! It's taught me just about all I know lol :) Thanks in advance!
 
That seems odd, are these your first psychedelic experiences? Often people don't realise they're getting visuals because they're expecting something far different visually.

I can understand with 4-AcO-DMT, as at low to medium doses there are CEVs but not much in the way of OEVs, however 2C-E has some crazy OEVs even at relatively low doses.

So, a few questions..

First few times using psychedelics?
How much did you dose of each?
Are you sure you are getting them from someone/somewhere reliable?

As for tips for actually increasing visuals (I say increasing simply because I've never had the need to induce them, but some things make them more noticeable) - stare at a patterned object for some time - watch a movie (look at faces and the background in particular) - quickly move objects or your head around (tracers!)

Hope this helps, and sorry if it's worded a little weirdly, I'm on some 2C-E myself at the moment (which, if you were wondering, is very visual atm)

Edit: Almost forgot, if you're somewhere light - go somewhere dark, and vice versa. Changing lighting while tripping can really encourage visuals.
 
Some people just don't get much in the way of visuals no matter what drug or dose.

You could try adding weed? That seems to increase visuals for me, although it changes the trip obviously.
 
Thanks for the tips! And I've had 2ci many times, up to 18mgs with some minor fractals and such, though the stars did form a spiderweb come to think of it... and with 2ce I've tried 10mgs with just minor brightening of colors. Same thing with aco. Mayb I just havent pushed the dose high enough yet...

They feel legit though and the vendor has gotten great reviews so I'm not too worried as to the quality. My aco is pure white too, not off white.

Ps. Hope you're enjoying the trip jesusgreen ;)

Edit: I will try adding some weed and nitrous to the mix soon. Taking 16mgs aco on wed. so hopefully that gives some oev's :)
 
Relax your vision. Focus on one point and follow your imagination. Look at the patterns in the grain of wood, and it should start to flow. Once you can coax the visuals out the first time, it will be much easier in the future.

If that fails, sit quietly in a dark room with some good music on and just wait for them :)

Weed and nitrous should help too ;)
 
playing with lights can induce massive tracers, those can be fun...combing with music, weed, and friends, especially the last, because you can compare notes.

"hey, does that look like a chicken to you?"
"no man, all I see is the universe"
 
i've always found the greatest of all visuals occur alone.
or at reasonably high doses with patience and serenity looking forward and letting music guide you.

movies won't really give you visuals unless its a trippy fucked up movie.

that and DMT produces visuals :p
 
^^yeah, actually when people go into self-induced trances, they often describe what they've see as graphs, so that makes total sense
 
Awesome guys next trip ill give all the suggestions a go and update with how it went ;)
 
also your stated dosages are definitely on the low end... try 2ci around 22mg or 2ce near 15mg and you won't be disappointed.

try the following SOBER:
stare at a plain wall. stare until your eyes hurt and you want to blink. DO NOT BLINK. keep staring at a single point. do not move your eyes. eventually you should see clouds of darkness swirl across your vision. when this happens you can either play with them in your imagination, or you can blink and they will disappear.

practice this technique several times while SOBER and you will be able to draw out 2c visuals very easily next time you dose. just use the same technique while tripping and you will notice everything ripple in and out of phase with your reality :)
 
I know I'm a bit late, and this information may not be true, but it has always worked for me irregardless.

[From what I've always believed, so no sources:] The brain is addicted to sensation. By that, I mean seeing things and hearing things. Thus, it creates its own sensation when it doesn't realize it is receiving any. For example, when you sleep. Imagine trying to sleep when your eyes are closed/there is noise.

So although people will tell you hallucinations are induced, you're actually just ignoring the sensation that is available to you because you are trying to induce hallucinations.

So the 'trippy' scenarios aren't actually hallucination inducing, but rather just a great place to tripp on high doses, ie, the park on a bright day.

So tripp in a dark, quiet place.

LM EDIT: Oh, I actually do have a source. I found the page I saw all those years ago[its one of those results...]: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...1g4&aql=&oq=how+to+hallucinate+with+&gs_rfai=
 
At the beginning of a trip, I usually stare at a ceiling, wall, or the sky. If I see those morphing/twisting then I know it's going to be a very visual trip. Just relax and give your eyes a few minutes to focus on something with repetitive detail.

Smoking weed also makes my mushroom trips go from 0 to 60 in 2 seconds.
 
go outside and stare off into the trees as it gets sort of dark...all the different angles on the trees and shifting bits of light and shadow always send me into visuals when I am tripping.
 
Try playing with lights, even glow sticks in the dark should induce some nice tracers and other wierd visuals.

I find strobe lights and balloons or bubbles often send my OEVs crazy.
 
skatr0830 said:
Thanks for the tips! And I've had 2ci many times, up to 18mgs with some minor fractals and such, though the stars did form a spiderweb come to think of it... and with 2ce I've tried 10mgs with just minor brightening of colors. Same thing with aco. Mayb I just havent pushed the dose high enough yet...

They feel legit though and the vendor has gotten great reviews so I'm not too worried as to the quality. My aco is pure white too, not off white.

Ps. Hope you're enjoying the trip jesusgreen ;)

Edit: I will try adding some weed and nitrous to the mix soon. Taking 16mgs aco on wed. so hopefully that gives some oev's :)
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I definitely agree it must be the dose. Those are all fairly light/medium doses. If the 10mg 2C-E was oral then I definitely wouldn't get anything in the way of OEVs, maybe a couple of light ones that I would assume were placebo, along with some euphoria and stimulation. If it was 10mg nasal it'd be a different thing entirely, with oral I'd recommend 15-20mg.

With 4-AcO-DMT I had some minor visuals around 15mg but nothing that interesting until 20-25mg as the OEVs on 4-AcO-DMT aren't as intense as those on 2C-E, there are some nice CEVs but I'd still say you want to reach the 20mg mark at least.

Not sure about 2C-I as I've never tried it.

I'm pretty sure it's a dose issue though having read that post. Just be aware that the mental side of a trip can increase dramatically with increased doses, so make sure you have an appropriate set/setting before upping the dose.

Peace :)

movies won't really give you visuals unless its a trippy fucked up movie.
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Edit: Also I have to disagree there, if I watch say a film that is extremely visual, I'll have barely any visuals of my own on top of that, one example is the scenes in Fear and Loathing where there are visuals - I never get any of my own visuals in those scenes, however in the parts with no visuals the background is swirling/morphing, faces are melting, all sorts is going on :P
 
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IME mushrooms grant the best visuals, I havent tried the 2c series drugs.

But what I do is this... Turn my ipods volume to max, sit alone(without the bothers of other people) and relax. Feel the music, stare at something, and you should soon see movement. Eventually if you can reach a trance like state (and have done enough drugs) you can start to imagine things and they will blend in to your reality. This has only really happened to me twice with an 1/8th of mushys each time. The results are splendid, a good reward for the anxiety when you're coming up.

My greatest visuals have presented themselves while spacing out and looking at an old dilapidated wall, and in a tent looking at the stars, and the tent walls itself. I could imagine my hands on fire, smell the smoke, then see it, then see orange glows being emitted from my finger tips.
 
My first post.. lurker for a long time here...

Definitely, in my experience, the best and easiest way to induce visuals is to take some poppers!

On the other side, with some psychedelics like LSD, the most overhelming visuals are in the frontier of bad trips.. I mean fear and stupefaction are what we are looking for.. ;)
 
Music can really bring out the already amazing visual effects of the 2c drugs. On higher doses I was actualy able to see sound. Try stareing up at the night sky while listening to some good music and trust me you wont be dissapointed. Also try puting on some head phones while standing infront of a mirror and stare at your self dirrectly in the eyes.
 
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