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Fishy80

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so, I've been someone who was super interested in psychedelics for a while but was never able to try them until recently... (with the exception of Salvia because that was legal)

So now, I've shroomed 2-3 times, done salvia 5-7 times, and LSD... my favorite so far... 3-6 times, because I feel some of it was bunk... I've had at least 3 real trips on it though...

currently, after my last L trip, maybe its just coincidence with everything goin on in my life... but I am feeling like I don't need to smoke pot anymore which is very abnormal for me lol, I'm more anxious about doing salvia again (with only uncomfortable but amazing trips under my belt with salvia), and the only thing that is really holding my interest is getting more L... but I'm also feeling like the last trip on L brought me to a plateau mentally... I feel like I can properly prioritize things, where before I was very unorganized, and had horrible priorities, I feel like I can learn better than before, I feel like I'm making more intelligent thoughts and decisions, and I'm just worried that my love for L, will make me take it again, and lose this plateau, and honestly I'd rather have that stay, than do another drug ever.

Is it just me? growing up? maturing?(I'm 23) I've heard L causes different connections in the brain where there were not connections before, which is what can increase creativity.. could this be why I'm feeling as I do?

I guess a lot of this might be impossible to know, but its been on my mind, and worse will happen is this thread will end up 3 pages back with no reply, so I figured I'd post it anyway lol...

I'm just trying to figure out, is it time to stop, since I feel I'm in a good place mentally, or is there possibly that L can make that even better? has anyone been here before? how did you decide to deal with it? results?
 
I'm not sure what you mean by mental plateau. Tolerance, perhaps? Lol. You're definitely not at your mental peak at 23 though.

I've had similar revelations after LSD. Stopped biting my nails for good, and seriously cut back on consumption of weed. Psychedelics just make it impossible to not address the the truths surrounding your life and your habits.
 
at 23 i thought i was at my mental peak.

then i became 24. and thought the same thing again.

then on and on :) so now im just happy im a bit more mature, or at least more comfortable with myself.

i wouldnt worry about things too much. if you feel you are in a good place and dont need to trip then dont. psychs can be very helpful, very much fun, but they also showed me i do not need them to be myself, how to use them and not the other way around.

enjoy where you are now :) thats my 2cents
 
I'm glad to hear that you've gained valuable insights from your psychedelic experiences. Alan Watts said " Psychedelic experience is only a glimpse of genuine mystical insight, but a glimpse which can be matured and deepened by the various ways of meditation in which drugs are no longer necessary or useful. If you get the message, hang up the phone. For psychedelic drugs are simply instruments, like microscopes, telescopes, and telephones. The biologist does not sit with eye permanently glued to the microscope, he goes away and works on what he has seen." I think that lets us know what to do with the information gained from our psyschedelic experiences and also validates the idea that you migh currently be @ a point where psychedelics might not have more insight to offer right now. Perhaps they will regain value later when you are ready to/feel the need to grow more. Until then, don't put pressure on yourself to trip.

I had a very powerful and very healing LSD experience approx 4 years ago and haven't tripped much since. That experience gave me all I needed to work on/know for years to come. In fact, it helped me so much that i often wonder if another experience of that magnitude would be counterproductive. Since psychs can be often unpredictable I often wonder "What if another powerful experience sends me in a less positive direction? If I've finally gotten the healing i've needed, why try for more? What purpose would it serve except to possibly alter an already-good situation for the worse?"
 
Stopping and taking a break are two completely different stories.

Don't rule it out yet, but don't go out of your way to trip again (unless you feel its time)

'nuff said? :D
 
Sometimes it's good to take breaks to let all your previous trips sink in. Other times it might be beneficial to trip more frequently to break through a plateau. Often there are insights that require you to do some work on yourself from withing your ordinary level of consciousness. Listen to your gut and do what feels right for you.

After my last LSD trip I've been trying to psych myself up for another one but I'm pretty terrified to be honest because the last one was brutal, but I'm starting to get the itch so I think it won't be too long before giving it ago. But I've been working on the issues that made the last trip so hard so I feel that I will be rewarded once I go back :)
 
|>R()|)!G/-\|_ said:
Alan Watts said If you get the message, hang up the phone.
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But bear in mind Alan Watts died a pathetic, broken chronic alcoholic whose children used to beg him to stop drinking whisky and he still couldn't.

If he'd stuck to LSD instead of the bottle he'd have lived an awful lot longer. As much as I like Alan I think he had a fundamental misunderstanding of psychedelics. My message to Alan would have been "Put down the fucking bottle mate and pick up the phone again".
 
you sound like you have your head firmly on your shoulders, so i think you know best if it's time to take it easy on the tripping, or continue on at the same rate.

a lot of people report a huge interest after taking psychedelics for the first time, perhaps even tripping a bit 'too much', leading to spaced-out thoughts/fuzzy consciousness, sometimes obsession with ideas from the trip (as in my case, haha) and perhaps some residual visual effects

nothing very serious will happen if you don't trip three times weekly for half a year, but if you have a gut feeling you should trip less, probably best to follow that. IME, more time between trips = more satisfying moments once you ingest a drug.

i hope your future trips will continue to bring you good things!
 
fishy80, if you feel the psychedelics have given you some kind of improved clarity to direct your life, it is your duty to utilize that clarity for your personal benefit and the benefit of those around you. don't get stuck in the rut "because it feels good", use your vision to look ahead and make a positive difference.

opportunities to grab your dreams won't wait for you, but the trips will be there later in your life.
 
Well I don't think it is or should be as polarized as stopping and not doing it again or keep pushing yourself on and on.
What seems to be the right approach is having a trip which may or may not reflect things of the past and present clearly and then taking the time to give everything a place. It's like stirring up everything in yourself including subconscious material but getting a chance to straighten stuff out.
If you trip too often you don't give yourself the chance to give everything a place and what's equally important you are not getting a whole lot of new material to go on, so as you go along that sort of trip will be less and less novel, the magic will dissipate and it may even get a bit boring or superficial.

When you are just starting, it's good not to go to fast in this process because otherwise all of that conscious and subconscious material can get entangled and it can remove you even further from yourself because you only make the road to resolving everything that much longer.

Some people feel a need to go so very deep down the rabbit hole but if you don't grant yourself to climb up it again it's possible to get a little lost with the whole thing.
 
LSD made me cut back on weed, it made me realize that it is a drug too and if abused I'll suffer the consequences. It also taught me that weed when consumed daily doesn't give the effects that made me originally love it, now I smoke infrequently (every few weeks).
 
Judging from this "honestly I'd rather have that stay, than do another drug ever." I'd say don't do any drug for awhile. No point of doing drugs if you've achieved euphoria without them, which it sounds like you have.
 
SpecialK_ said:
LSD made me cut back on weed, it made me realize that it is a drug too and if abused I'll suffer the consequences. It also taught me that weed when consumed daily doesn't give the effects that made me originally love it, now I smoke infrequently (every few weeks).
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Same here. The first time I tripped on psychedelics (mushrooms) I realized how doing any substance was a special occasion, no longer making a special exception for cannabis. I used to smoke every day, now I do it only a few times a month and when I do, I have a very clear reason for doing it.
 
An honest suggestion my friend...

You, sir, need to read Turn On, Tune In, Drop Out by Leary. Some people might say it's old/cliche, etc. but they are also the ones that either a) never read it or B) never digested it's underlying meaning and/or potential. I believe (because I know...) you are in a situation where this book might guide you in the right direction.

"[Drop out] detach yourself from the outside world, social drama [Turn On] find a sacrament which returns you to the temple of God, your own body (e.g. trip balls) [Tune In] be reborn - Drop back into reality to express it. Start a new sequence of behavior that reflects your vision. But the sequence must continue. You cannot stand still. Remember, Life-Death-Restructure. " -Excerpt from the book.
 
Dude, do whatever the hell you want.

Why not stop until you want to do something again? Since you are probably not following societal or governmental rules here, I assume you are making your own, no?
 
Wow, I really appreciate all the feedback on this, I'm glad I asked!

So, I think I'll follow the example of some, and save things for special occasions from now on... I feel that will make me healthier and have more fun when I do those things, because Pot especially like it does for a lot I see, has become mundane from over use... I will not allow myself to do that to the beautiful other substances or pot for that matter again... its not worth it... more money for less fun? huh...

and I'm going to find that book by leary! I just happened to have met someone who may be able to get me a discount @ boarders too! but just from that little excerpt I can tell that is definitely a book I need to read.... and thank you for quoting that, because I'd heard that in across the universe, but didn't understand it till now... it makes SO MUCH SENSE! (until not too long ago, I was completely tuned in, and completely wrapped up in the world, or caught in "the flow" of the world as I called it once I tripped on shrooms hardcore for the first time)

Thank you all again for the replies! I hope anyone else who reads this finds it somehow enlightening as well
 
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