Benzos Tifluadom Experiences? And Other Substances Sought

[Didgital]

but has Salvinorin B methoxymethyl ether ever turned up as an RC?

not commercially but it has made it's rounds.

 

[Didgital]

it's all natural so it's just HAS to be safe...

MEOW

 

[Allylbenzene]

if ald52 remains available from china, things will be ok without easy access, for we the laypeople,to obscure novel lysergamides that while should be studied, should be studied properly. alongside ald52 and LSD

There's potential for one subset of lysergamides, assuming one has faith in amide-aldehyde condensation and access to appropriate morning glory seeds (HBWR not recommended due to ergometrine content) and isovaleraldehyde/acetaldehyde. Both aldehydes are fairly accessible.

LSD and Its Lysergamide Cousins
by DE Nichols (re entry 16, the 3-aminopentane discovery)

Both the 3-aminopentane (Dr. Nichols entry 16) and the isovaleraldehyde have 5 carbon groups and 11 hydrogen groups (once the aldehyde attaches to the H already at the amide of LSA) and BOTH have exact same molecular weights of 87 g/mol similar to diethylamine molecular weight of LSD at 73g/mol.

The 3-aminopentane from Dr. Nichols and isovaleraldehyde join at the R1 substitute of LSA with R=H still. This new aldehyde has same molecular weight as 3-aminopentane on the R1 substitute of LSA with R=H, see Dr. Nichol's paper on page 84, chart shown. This is one of only 2 entries in which the rats responded to it (3-aminopentane) as if they had been given LSD.

This aldehyde discovery that works has five carbon groups and 11 hydrogen just like 3-aminopentane (entry 16) which was found by Dr. Nichols to have activity very similar to LSD in the rat assays, as the rats reacted to it as if they had been given LSD. Anything beyond this, like cinnamaldehyde or cuminaldehyde with a very high molecular weight has way too many carbons and hydrogens (almost double) and will result in weak effects.

Dr Nichols writes in "LSD and Its Lysergamide Cousins":

The important thing to note from the table below, in the far right column, is the fact that LSD has a potency in rats in the drug discrimination behavioral assay of 48 nanomoles per kilogram of rat body weight. Only two other compounds have comparable activity: entries 6 and 16.

Curiously, entry 6 is a monoalkylamide that has the same molecular weight as LSD itself, that is, it has a total of four carbon atoms attached to the amide. Entry 16 has a five-carbon group attached to the amide.

We have no evidence as to whether either of these compounds would be active in man, but these rat data suggest that they might be.
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Entry 16 (3-aminopentane) has a potency in the drug discrimination behavioral assay of 52 nanomoles per kilogram of rat body weight, this is very similar to the 48 nanomoles per kg of rat body weight observed with LSD.

 

[idle_curiosity]

4C-D (and its cousin, 4C-E) were recently listed as available in the Netherlands, although that's no longer so as they are now banned.