Misc Thujone

[Shaal]

Hey,

I would like to know if anyone had experience with this. I'm currently soaking Artemisia absinthium in rhum, and I'm interested in evaporating it afterwards to get the "Thuge" or "Thuje" as they describe here:
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=10100 <-- first report
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=14142
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=46980

It seems interesting, but it also seems kind of unsafe. It seems that alcohol (GABAa agonist) protects from the toxicity of thujone (GABAa antagonist), however I think that maybe with alcohol the interesting effects are gone. That would explain why the Absinthe has a quantitavely different buzz that regular ethanol, but no psychedelic effects as the "legends" tell.

In that first report, people seem to get the Thuge high every time they smoked pot, even months afterwards. That doesn't sound safe.
Third report states that it is "exceptionally persistent".
Study about toxicity in rats and mice: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22127327

So, maybe not worth the risk...

More info here:
https://www.erowid.org/plants/wormwood/wormwood_article1.shtml

 

[bunnyrabbitz]

I been fuckin' with wormwood since I was a boy. I've never had any major issues. Smoking it produces a high similar to low-med DXM high.

 

[Shaal]

Thanks for your answers. So you've had issues?
Does it really do the "doll-house effect" as described in the reports?

 

[bunnyrabbitz]

Thanks for your answers. So you've had issues?
Does it really do the "doll-house effect" as described in the reports?

Well, I've had tons of issues. You can't isolate them because I've mixed speed, liquor, benzo's and weed, huffed gasoline and been in solitary confinement etc. Who's to say what causes what? I haven't had direct issues with wormwood particularly all that much.

No, not in my opinion.

 

[Shaal]

Ok, thanks.