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Opioids This Is How To Make OP's Into Powder Form That Is Snortable Or Shootable

I hope you know I wasn't trying to slam you. Just if you're going to post up a guide like this that claims to leave you with a powder to IV, it's good to give some more information on the process. More than half the people on this site have a less than basic knowledge of chemistry, and while I get what you're trying to do with the citric acid and PEG, you should explain it so that everyone knows what's up.

While I understand the theory, I still need to be convinced that this works at all in practice.

I use acids to take OC orally, and it works no better than just adding water.
 
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I didn't know, but is it really propylene glycol that's in the new OP's - the stuff that makes them gel up? I just never new.
It contains polyethylene glycol 400, if that's what you meant by "propylene glycol." I'm not trying to be knit picky, it's just important to know the correct names of what you are putting in your body.

The 10 mg, 15 mg, 20 mg, 30 mg, 40 mg, 60 mg and 80 mg tablets contain the following inactive ingredients: butylated hydroxytoluene (BHT), hypromellose, polyethylene glycol 400, polyethylene oxide, magnesium stearate, titanium dioxide.
The 10 mg tablets also contain: hydroxypropyl cellulose.
The 15 mg tablets also contain: black iron oxide, yellow iron oxide, and red iron oxide.
The 20 mg tablets also contain: polysorbate 80 and red iron oxide.
The 30 mg tablets also contain: polysorbate 80, red iron oxide, yellow iron oxide, and black iron oxide.
The 40 mg tablets also contain: polysorbate 80 and yellow iron oxide.
The 60 mg tablets also contain: polysorbate 80, red iron oxide and black iron oxide.
The 80 mg tablets also contain: hydroxypropyl cellulose, yellow iron oxide and FD&C Blue #2/Indigo Carmine Aluminum Lake.
(source)
 
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I get the theory, always found that OP's dissolved best in a solution of Emergen-C, which I used b/c of its high levels of citric acid + effervecence. But so I understand your method, after you powderize the pill, then what?

-do you make a solution of water+acid and add the OP to that? Then add the alcohol and let evaporate? Or do you mix the OP with acid, water and alcohol at same time?

-is it water or alcohol, OR water and alcohol?

-how much liquid and acid do you need to use? Liquid I can figure out, I guess just enough to saturate the powder or more, but what about the acid concentration? Is there an optimal Ph your aiming for, have you found a sweet spot, does one acid work better than another? You suggest that you've done this before, so what have you found to work? I don't care about the Ph or actual concentration IF you've done it before, just tell me what you use per "X" many pills of "xx" mg strength. IF its just theory though, then I'd like to know some specific numbers so I don't have to waste nay product with my own experimenting.

Does the OP really dry. To a powder though? B/c IME, the time release compounds in an OP can be broken down to release the oxy into a solution, but those compounds, when mixed w/ acids, don't turn into liquid but they become jelly like--gooey. So I don't see how you can get them into a water soluble powder. Maybe if they were in the acid for long enough, but how long is that--24 hours maybe? Or if you could filter the solution and then evaporate, then that might work.

OP--can you pls lay out your exact tek, giving specific amounts and times for the steps?
 
I hope you know I wasn't trying to slam you. Just if you're going to post up a guide like this that claims to leave you with a powder to IV, it's good to give some more information on the process. More than half the people on this site have a less than basic knowledge of chemistry, and while I get what you're trying to do with the citric acid and PEG, you should explain it so that everyone knows what's up.

While I understand the theory, I still need to be convinced that this works at all in practice.

I use acids to take OC orally, and it works no better than just adding water.

Well you seem like a nice enough person. Thanks for your input. I just kinda discovered this randomly when I had enough OP's to risk a loss, you know what I mean ? It's weird being on forums so I do apologize if I came off as rude I am just so use to people wanting ot argue about everything. I actually am going to upload a new video and take out shooting. Since I personally haven't done that I completely agree that would be irresponsible for me to say it's ok for this method to work if I don't know. Thanks for the advice. I do know it does work great for fine white powder to snort.
 
Nah, I'm just an asshole when it comes to people recommending IV pharmaceutical opiates, particulary oxycontin and the new opanas, just in the spirits of harm reduction, I can be harsh though I suppose. I definitely don't want to scare away a chemistry major, you should stick around I'm sure you'd be a valuable resource to this forum.
 
Well I like your honesty, lol. It's always good to be an asshole and proud. I am going to stick around and make a better tutorial (without the IV use). I do agree it's such a bitch on the body if it is done incorrectly. And most people can't resist the addiction. My wife works for a hospital that does Vascular things. She's just the biller but she knows all the stuff about why people come in and she sees and hears about so many people with messed up veins and arteries because of pills being powderized and injected or other crap like street coke and heroin. Know telling what you are putting in you body.
 
By edit, I meant that, instead of making multiple posts one after the other that just makes the thread unnecessarily long...

Say you want to add something to a post you've just made. Instead of clicking on "REPLY" and making a whole new post, click on the button that says "EDIT" on the post you just made (and want to add to). You will find the "EDIT" button at your post's bottom right corner next to the "REPLY" button.

Hitting "EDIT" will open up the post you've already made and let you add to it. Once you've added whatever you want to add to your post, just hit the "SAVE" button. The "SAVE" button will appear right next to the "Go Advanced" (or if you already "went advanced" it will appear right next to the "Preview Changes" button) also located in the right bottom corner of your post (or page is you went advanced). Very useful feature I find.

Yea, I'm a little OCD. And, well, I jump at any chance to stick my nose up a mod's butt in order to gain brownie points (such as being oh-ever-so helpful and explaining such important if basic functions of our wonderful forum here).

Yes, and good to have you here matt. If it hasn't mean said already, "WELCOME to Bluelight!" I see a positive contributions to harm reduction in your immediate-near future ;)

EDIT: (=D see I do like it) And thank you for editing out the suggestions about it being okay to shoot it. I assumed you didn't intend that to come across, but you can never be too careful when it comes to junkies who will use the needle anytime they get the chance. Don't get me wrong, I don't look down on the bunch, certain people who that generalization applies to are some of my closest, best friends.

Anyways, doing that to your tutorial totally brings it back in line with the whole "harm reduction" motif :p :) No, but seriously, thank you.
 
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