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Thinking about trying H.. questions

Im_Soooooo_High

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background: ive done oxycodone ( oc's or percs ) a few times ( 4-6 ) always at least 2 moths apart so i have zero tolerance each time. ive never felt any any addiction or need to do them i just love the feeling. i think i could handle doing H once every 3-4 months with no problem at all.but i have a few question first.


1) no way in hell i would iv it.. i would try smoking or snorting. what are the pros/cons of smoking vs snorting ?

2) how much should i smoke or snort at a time ? ( 30 mgs of oxy chewed gets me almost noddin and it perfect )

3) is H cheap ? (indiana)

4) what are the negatives physical/mental side effects of H ? also is H worse for you than oc ? i know that the list of negatives goes way down if you dont iv and you dont get hooked.


and thanks for all the help guys..its hard to find info on H thats not on the D.A.R.E website.
 
Heroin is not some sort of mysterious magical drug. It's extremely similar to oxycodone it just has this crazy stigma behind it. To sum it all up basically heroin is cheaper but (and this is a big but) you don't know what it might be/is cut with.
 
Well if 30 mg's of oxy chewed gets you off , then it will not take much heroin to get you high.. I would stick to pills if I were you, but that being said if you are going to do heroin, first get powder if you can, from a reliable person, I assume you already know someone that gets heroin..if it's tar, then smoke a little bit on the foil, if it's powder the best way is to snort it, and only do a very small line and wait 15-20 minutes before even thinking about doing more!!
Rail out maybe a 1/2 inch to inch line of powder, a skinny ass line, and snort it and remember it takes about 15 -20 minutes to fully kick in snorting it..it's more dangerous to snort to much than to snort too little and have to do another line 30 minutes later!!!
And the price is different everywhere, depends on your defintion of cheap, we cannot list prices on here, but it's probably not cheap in indiana depends on where you live,who you know,etc.. Heroin is no worse than oxycodone for you except that you do not know the exact dose with a bag of heroin, so you have to beware of that!!! Look on the vaults of erowid website under heroin, and under dosage, it has the doses for people in pure heroin mg's for snorting ,smoking etc..Just research heroin there and other sites,,DARE is not black to research a drug...
Vaults of erowid is a good place to look and read about the drug...
 
You might as well just get some pharmaceutical opioids and skip out on street H. Buying something off of the street, you don't know what the fuck you're getting.
Why risk it, when you can get just as good of a high, without the obvious danger?
 
Yo bro, don't get into it.
I see you've started to get into Rolling, idk how that wen't for you but try to keep it simple.
IMO - stay away from Speed, H, Ect.. It's got me in the hole many time's and im still mind fucked from it all..

If you've got good willpower maybe pick up some bar's or something idk.
 
IMO dont even bother with H if your not willing to IV... oxy will do the trick and from what i know about indiana is the H there is prolly not so good and you might get lucky or unlucky depending on how you look at it and get "china white" which is fentyal which is about 100x more potent then heroin and you will die.. but to each there own...
 
heroin is much cheaper and will get you much higher. ive been doing black tar heroin for two years. smoking it for most of the first year then iv'ing the rest. be very very careful. heroin has ruined my life and it would be wrong not to warn you what you (could) be getting into. you'll get dopesick, which is extremely painful, and you'll do things you said you'd never do to get it when you run dry.i hate it and love it at the same time. more love it though. IV, theres no high like it. smoking it is great when you start out, but beware, heroin is deceptive. you will not get dopesick immediately, thus you will not see the negative effects on yourself at first. but in time, things will get very, very regrettable if you continue to do it. oh, and never iv if its your first itme or if you've been doing it less than a month, or unless you have a preexisting decent opiate habit. you will almost inevitably overdose.

getnice:
supposedly, according to my dealers, the heroin in indiana, at least indianapulis is much better. they make a run up i65 from nashville to there every once in a while to reup. apparently this is because indianpulis is centerpoint of interstates in the united states, thus making it a great place to center drug trafficking. every dealer ive had(always crews of 3 or 4 illegal mexicans who you call via cellphone and meet in some parking lot) has gotten their heroin from indianapulis, or direct from mexico, so i would assume the dope is better up there in indiana, since the crews would have to cut it to make a decent profit.
 
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Heroin is not much better than OXY unless you shoot it so don't go there. You will fuck your life up for not much gain.

You are better off forgetting all about it and just taking more oxy.
 
if i could get oxy then i'd go for that,. it's always the same, the pills have labels, they are a grade and you know what it should cost and it isn't dirty with grubby fingers all over it.
 
I don't recommend starting a heroin habit, after only doing Oxy a couple times. Can I ask why you are so infatuated with Heroin? And to whoever said IV is the only way. Snorting heroin, especially with a low tolerance, is extremely enjoyable. You won't get the rush, but the high will last longer. Of course once I started shooting that philosophy went out the window.. But to an opiate naive person snorting good powder can get you equally as destroyed..
 
I would eat oxy or snort dilaudid before I shoot heroin. If you're only doing it every 2 months, why save money on heroin? Heroin is more for people with an opiate addiction, since it's like cheap oxy or dilaudid. Dilaudid is much safer than heroin, and probably the most similar pharmaceutical
 
Dilaudid is prolly the best opiod on the planet IMO.. maybe next to real pharm grade FENTAYL....its closer then even oxymorphone in similarities.... but straight raw H is still my fav.. but if u dont have a habit even dilaudid is gonna rock your world boy
 
Heroin is not some sort of mysterious magical drug. It's extremely similar to oxycodone it just has this crazy stigma behind it. To sum it all up basically heroin is cheaper but (and this is a big but) you don't know what it might be/is cut with.

^ This.

For the longest time I thought, "Heroin must be crazy! The first time I try it, I'm going to be kissing unicorns and dancing with butterflies..."

Then I tried it, and I realized soon enough that heroin wasn't all that different from oxycodone or oxymorphone.
 
I would eat oxy or snort dilaudid before I shoot heroin. If you're only doing it every 2 months, why save money on heroin? Heroin is more for people with an opiate addiction, since it's like cheap oxy or dilaudid. Dilaudid is much safer than heroin, and probably the most similar pharmaceutical

yea i was going to say the OP should maybe have a few more opiate experiences before doing dope, and plus the reason most people start on dope is because its so cheap and plentiful (depending on where you live) Id stick with the pills on a once in a while basis.

I used to say the same thing about shooting heroin lol...i bet most of us did.
 
If you're not going to inject it, snorting is your next best option. Wikipedia or another trusted source will have the bioavailability info, and it's pretty straightforward. What's not straightforward though is your dosing question. Like most people will tell you, heroin and all street drugs are notoriously varied in potency. While it is by no means a golden rule, certain regions of the country are well know to have quality heroin. For instance the Northeast and the northern mid-atlantic. Chicago allegedly has a pretty good scene, and no doubt that's where you're shit is being diverted from if you're in Indiana. Just be safe and pace yourself. Start small and work your way up.

Health concerns... In theory heroin should be no more or less harmful than oxycodone, or any other opiate for that matter. This is a question better posed to a doctor though man. there could be literally anything in your shit. Worst case scenario: could be cut with fentanyl and you could overdose, so like I said pace yourself.
 
Only read the first post on here...if you aren't going to inject it, stick to oxycodone.

The two lures of H...
1. Cheap
2. Rush

Number two comes at the cost of IV...so if you're not going to do that...i say stick with the oxycodone...plus you know what you're getting, it's pharmaceutical grade.
 
This is interesting. I've been wanting to try Heroin for a little while now as well, but I'm in the same boat, I won't IV. But snorting H is really no better than just popping a bunch of Oxy? Definitely didn't figure that...

Not that I know where to get either at the moment....
 
This is interesting. I've been wanting to try Heroin for a little while now as well, but I'm in the same boat, I won't IV. But snorting H is really no better than just popping a bunch of Oxy? Definitely didn't figure that...

Not that I know where to get either at the moment....

Not enough of a difference to make it worth the consequences is what I have to say.

It will fuck your life up faster than anything else and it isn't much better of a high than oxy unless you bang it.


Why go there if you don't have to.
 
I agree with everyone above who says you are better off just sticking with Oxy, the problem is though an opiate habit is an opiate habit, you stay on Oxy long enough and you'll have a habit, then one day you'll be WDing like a motherfucker and you'll be broke and then you'll run into H....

So stick with the oxy and then quit the oxy and don't look back. Any opiate habit will rule you, I used to sit waiting at the window for the mail man to bring my poppy pods like a dog waiting for it's owner to come home.... and on the days when I was in withdrawal and out and he didn't have my package... oh how my life shattered...


But you want to try it, so here's my advice/story.... I've been in your shoes! Literally, what size are you wearing?..jk. It was almost a year ago when I tried it the "first" time (first usually leads to second, to third.... habit!) and oh the lessons I have learned....




Well, I can't knock you for wanting to try it, I wanted to try it forever and always told myself I wouldn't. Then, 2 or so years into an opiate addiction including Oxy, Vicodin, Morphine, but mostly straight up Poppy Pods or Suboxone I ran out of EVERYTHING.....WD city or?

"Sorry dude, everything's dry right now, but I can get some brown.... in a half hour...." I couldn't find anything else and I didn't want to try H but my WD's told me otherwise, I tried it and it felt just like any other opiate except it hit faster. I smoked it by the way. At the time I kept buying H since nothing else was available and it's damn hard to taper off of H.

I don't think I really loved H until I was in withdrawals from H and waiting for hours for this dealer, the relief when I finally got it was amazing. The first time wasn't amazing at all though, I just thought to myself "why does everyone make such a big deal about this stuff?"

It's main appeal is it's unique high combined with it's rush and availability and low price if you're not getting ripped off.

MY ADVICE

DON'T TRY IT!!!

It's a constant struggle to stay away from it, it's too easy to get once you know people who use it, your tolerance can skyrocket if you keep increasing your dosage and then your life becomes nothing but finding the next fix. It sucks you in quick too but you don't even realize it.

however, you'll do what you'll do, just as I and many others have. I'd recommend smoking it if you get tar, you can easily gauge how much you're getting at once, you'll need someone to show you how to do it. it's a bit tricky but unfortunately it's all too easy to get the hang of and you'll never look at tinfoil and bic pens and lighters in the same way once you get used to it.

Life has so much more to offer than H, I'd really recommend against it, it's a life of extremes, love hate, suicidal euphoric, watch a friend turn blue from shooting up too much and maybe it'll change your outlook. And if you get a habit, which is more than likely, just forget about having money ever again until you're clean.

I'm on subs now, a low dose, I realize how much better life is without H yet I can't have any amount of money in my hand without thinking "hmmm, just a phone call and a ten minute drive and I'll be in heaven...." It can be hard to resist once you know it's high, especially if things go bad in your life, and believe me, things will go bad in your life more often the more you use H.


That's my rant, I don't think it's the worst drug in the world by any stretch of the imagination, it's just it's illegal status and the people you have to deal with to get it, the way it turns otherwise honest people into lying manipulating junkies who you can never trust again until they're clean..... It's much better just to have a girlfriend and go watch a movie have sex then sleep and go to work the next day than live an H life, it's all or nothing once you're in it. Yes, a "normal" life is much much better, people wait in line for their methadone everyday so they can get back to "normal"...if it were legal and controlled I'd say go for it, get it out of your system, but it isn't.

Whatever you do, be safe, don't use it alone, don't inject it.
 
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This is interesting. I've been wanting to try Heroin for a little while now as well, but I'm in the same boat, I won't IV. But snorting H is really no better than just popping a bunch of Oxy? Definitely didn't figure that...

Not that I know where to get either at the moment....


If you don't IV there is no rush so yeah it's pretty much just another opiate high that's extremely similar to oxy. I've snorted it a bunch of times and it's comparable to oxymorphone or an oxycodone high. Only thing is it's cut...each time it's cut with different things and sometimes you ended up with a clogged shnoz which is just weak.

Now if you're going to IV...that's a different story, hydromorphone and h take the cake.

A lot of posts on here are saying it will instantly ruin your life...not true...all about self control. If your at a good place in your life and try it i doubt it will take over...but if you are down in the dumps and turn to opaites that's a different story, they offer a false light that people turn to and let take over. That being said the rush from hydro or H is a pandora's box...once you open it...you will always want to go back...which brings me back to self control
 
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