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They say E is not Addictive - do you Agree?

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I don't know about the chemistry itself but I could easily get addicted to the effects of ecstacy, the freedom, euphoria and social uninhibition that goes with it. But I have noticed that the desire to pop decreases the longer you stay sober. I think it's much easier to get addicted if you're taking it frequently with little or no break in between. Do you agree?
 
MDMA is definitely addictive for lots of people. I personally have an urge to take more ecstasy, especially in the week after taking some. The desire does seem to fade with abstinence, but I ended up taking it once every three weeks or so because it seemed like the most desireable thing to do.

Now the money and the after effects keep me from using it so often.
 
MDMA releases dopamine and therefore can make people feel a need for the substance... there's a very interesting article in this weeks Scientific American about it...

The effect is somewhat self-limiting in that continued use of MDMA produces rapidly diminishing effects - tolerance rises very quicky.

A small number of users (very small) go onto use MDMA every day or every other day regardless...

In terms of psychological addictiveness, I would agree that it is quite addictive... it is, in some ways, a form of escapism from yourself, and given that so many people are unhappy with themselves that's an easy avenue to addiction...
 
Tantra said:
But I have noticed that the desire to pop decreases the longer you stay sober. I think it's much easier to get addicted if you're taking it frequently with little or no break in between. Do you agree?
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If someone is taking E a few weeks in a row, then often it rapidly becomes the norm on a night out. Rather than sticking to alcohol or sober with MDMA making an appearance every 5 or 6 weeks, they instead move on to MDMA every week with a couple of drinks to get the night started.
Once thats the case a night sober or just drunk doesn't cut it for them, its lost its appeal :(

Anything someone finds enjoyable can be addictive. TV, internet forums, long distance runnings and obviously drugs. Drugs especially because of their direct interaction with brain chemicals.
 
Speaking just based on my own personal experiences, I would have to say that MDMA is the only drug that I have had any problem controlling. I just absolutely loved it, and though I realize well that it is not phsically addictive, the feelings and the beauty of it are completly addictive to me. E was the only drug that had any depth to it for me, and meaning. It was powerful, and almost spiritual. Trying cocaine and Meth among other things, I find other drugs to be occasionally fun and interesting, though none held the meaning or were as powerful for me personally as MDMA. I was doing MDMA every week for six months, and am only now on a self-induced 2-3month break from Ecstasy. The honesty of it, is that I simply love MDMA, I can't deny that unfortunatly.
 
i would say for along time i had problems with controlling my use
i continually wanted to be returned to that high i got the first times i rolled, when i could just pop 1 pill and have an amazing night
sooner or later, every few months turned into every month, then to once a week on saturday, then to friday and saturday, then started continuing onto sunday, often hitting days during the week as well
i was hooked, not on the high i was getting but from the search to return to the high i once had
it never returned, rolls turned into multiple, multiple doses which lead to mashey, sketchy, speedy highs, often i would not even feel the effects of later pills but i just continued to consume them hoping to get the impossible high
the more pills i ate, the worse the highs got and the more the negative effects came out
it wasn't even pleasurable anymore, and thats when i just stopped, the thought of even swallowing a pill, just the taste, the feeling of it kicking in, the horrible after effects which seemed to be threw out the whole roll and days after, just thinking about any of it made me feel sick to my stomach
i have now begun to roll again, around once every 1-2 months, i still consume many pills when i do roll tho, once i take my first, i can't stop, but i never continue for days, and can now go easily months in between without any thoughts about it at all
the high i seeked to remember still has never come back, i get happy on pills, but nothing like it was
i come to realize my addiction to re-live the magic has destroyed any chances of me every feeling it again
now i have to settle for only ok rolls, the after effects are always bad, and the magic is diffenitly gone
 
I reckon Ecstasy is psychologically addictive, but at the same time self-limiting. And no, that's not meant to be a good thing; what I mean is that I've seen people take pills more and more frequently, constantly upping their dose and being blatantly psychologically addicted. However these people tend to crash and burn and never do pills again, rather than continue to yearn for them for as long as they live (in comparison with Heroin addiction and the likes).

So yeah it's addicting but because its so punishing the addiction stops and never come back in a lot of cases.
 
Yeah, i can understand how people can get addicted to it. Altho it isnt very physically addictive. It is a very enjoyable experience, the feelings of love and acceptence that is felt when ingestin it is immense. A feeling alot of people never have, and never will without it.. The feeling this drug gives, is probably the closest feeling to love, having felt it before id say they are very close. I found myself somewhat addicted to my ex gf and thats probably where we went wrong, i felt like i needed to see her all the time. This feeling is also what i felt with ecstasy for awhile. However, i feel i can beat the drug as long as i know that ii dont have to do it if i dont want to. Dont feel i need the drug for anything. This way, i moderate it to what i feel is right. Without going too hardcore.
 
I find I need alcohol far more than E - the only time that I really crave having a pill is when I'm usually pissed up.

I can go (and have gone) without pills for months, but beer as a different matter (4 weeks tops over the last 10 years).
 
I haven't gone longer than 4 weeks or so since I started nearly 4 years ago.................. I am down to 1 or 2 though (but I use other drugs in combo nearly always).... but I'm not addicted ;)
 
Agreed. I don't believe E is psychically addictive, but more so mentally.

IE: I need Ecstasy when I go clubbing to have fun.
IE: I want to feel that feeling when I hear this kind of music.

and without it's not as enjoyable.

Thats my personal experience.

shals :D
 
Totally addictive for me. I was hooked after my first time.

Far worse in that sense than any other drugs I've taken. Possibly not as bad as alcohol, but it sure seems like it due to ecstasy addiction having far worse consequenses for me than alcohol addiction.
 
I think it's pretty addictive, I feel that my nights out are just shit without it. I'm taking a break just now though, I was having to drop 3 rather than 2 and it was getting a bit much from my personal limitations, memory is a bit fuzzy
 
I think the opinion that E isnt addictive is saying it isn't /physically/ addicting. To say something isn't mentally addictive is a load of crap- people can become mentally addicted to anything from drugs to baseball cards.

As far as physical addiction, I believe I've had signs of physical addiction - if I haven't rolled in a couple weeks, I get what I think are cigarette cravings, but smoking doesn't do anything to alleviate the cravings. If I roll, however, the physical cravings my body has go away.
 
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