Theraputic MDxx use

[Crystalline]

(Mods- Please move this if it should be in trip reports- I couldnt decide.)

This thread is to show people that while x is an amazing drug for having fun, it can be meaningful too
I have used MDMA a few times before, but the girl this experience was with had never touched it.
We both took ~200mg (powdered crystals) of either MDMA or MDA (I had very strong OEVs- Kaleidoscope patterns while looking anywhere).
We were both in my house, completely relaxed and with everything we needed (£30 of menthol cigs, a load of mints and some chewing gum!)
When the girl i was with started tripping, however, she did not get speedy- Nor did I, even though I have taken the drug from the same supplier before and stayed up until 6!
She simplly talked to me for 5 hours about how her dad used to beat her, and that she self harmed. She also told me that since around 2 years ago, she never made any real connections with anyone. Instead she simply saw people so that no-one would think differently of her. I am (apparantluy) the only person she's ever told this to, and she now says that she can make connections again- The drug and the talking has freed her from the depression.
She also said that she'd never been able to open up to psychatrists (partly because her mum was sectioned for 1 year), and that this had meant that she had never been able to get help.
Anyone else ever experienced this kind of eefect from MD?

 

[Darksidesam]

aww great story.

There is Great great great potential in use of MDMA for theraputic use, as this story you wrote here clearly shows, sometimes people 'bottle stuff up' so much and so tight they may not tell anyone and it will haunt them and ruin their lives,

She must have felt really really relieved that she told someone this, and also the fact she thought of it whilst on her 'Roll' means that is has obviously been giving her grief for a long long time.


Here, look at this thread : http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...MA-for-Iraq-Veterans-with-PTSD?highlight=ptsd

I also see another one too about Uk approving its use for trials soon supposedly, im not sure where it is though.

I recently watched a video on youtube recently too, about how a couple faced the evil news that one of them had cancer and he didnt have long to live, and he couldnt talk to her and their relationship was falling apart as he was dying, so sad, so they obtained mdma and basically, they got to spend years of effection and happiness together without cancer there, and he opened up to hes partner and said hes sorry,
it was heart touching to watch, although she lost her partner she says at least we got to spend those magical evenings together .



The only harm i could possibly see in using mdma is the comedown, my first comedown was horrific and i didnt take that much, but lots of people say their first comedown is harder than any other comedown. But as ive learnt there are Definately ways around a comedown,
The main one is only 1 dose to be taken, No redosing

 

[snowboarder7791]

yea i can basiclly say the same thing happened to me when i first had mdma... was depressed for along time before hand and i didnt want to take the prozac crap that the shrinks wanted me to take. I dont know i just had a feeling not to take them. me and some buddys took some pills one night we ended up walking on the beach talking and watching the sun raise. all the negative shit that happend in my life that i had kept in kind just flowed out. MY thinking on life suddenly changed. I can honestly say that mdma changed me for the better. i have been doing it for 15 years now never abused it and after this upcoming weekend i am no longer going to do it. Its just something i have been thinking about for a long time. Im not going to quit cuz i think its bad. i am quitting while its good.

 

[Crystalline]

About the comedown btw. I would not have given a depressed person this if my friends and I ha not used them multiple times and not had a comedown.

 

[Darksidesam]

I think it depends what you have really.
My first time was a pill and a half,
So it could have had Amphetamines in it,

But if you get good crystal MDMA and dont do a silly dose, shouldnt be too much of a problem

 

[Fyasko.]

MDMA has done this for me
after a few months of heavy mental and verbal abuse from my parents and a few bad relationships i became a depressed social-outcast. i hated myself, it was really bad. after trying about 90mgs of good clean MDMA (that day and for the next few months) i was actually content with my life. i had finnally escaped that hellhole and was able to socialize and made a ton of new friends.

they actually used to use it in therapy in the 1960's (1970's?).

 

[Folley]

MDMA is probably one of the best and worst things that ever happened to me. It fried my brain, but it also opened me up and helped me be myself.

I stopped trying to "fit in" after I started doing MDMA, and its really helped me get over a lot of my problems.

Also, whenever Im rolling always want to fix my relationships with everyone. I can really express my feeling to girls clearly and I always apologize for shit that happened way in the past lol

 

[Crystalline]

Yeah that experience has made me really angry at the government for not letting psychologists use the drug, and even that it is illegal when something like alcohol, which hardly has effects like that on relationships, is legal.

 

[Crystalline]

MDMA has done this for me
after a few months of heavy mental and verbal abuse from my parents and a few bad relationships i became a depressed social-outcast. i hated myself, it was really bad. after trying about 90mgs of good clean MDMA (that day and for the next few months) i was actually content with my life. i had finnally escaped that hellhole and was able to socialize and made a ton of new friends.

they actually used to use it in therapy in the 1960's (1970's?).

Yeah it's done that to me with even a few uses... I really no longer care about what people I don't like think of me.

 

[Splinterguitar69]

I've found myself sharing this a lot on this site lol. But it's whatever. It's cool to share experiences like these.

A couple of years ago an old girlfriend of mine died of a heroin overdose, and it really fucked up my view of myself and the world around me. I blamed myself a lot for what happened, even though I didn't know she was doing it until it was too late. My first MDMA experience helped me come to a lot of realizations I'm pretty confident I wouldn't have come to on my own. I spent so long searching so hard to find myself and love for life again, and this magical chemical did 1000 times more therapy in 4 hours than I had gotten in the year before. I feel like I owe a lot to this chemical. I'm glad she has had a similar experience. Things like this make me smile.

 

[augustaB]

Well I totally agree about the therapeutic effects of mdma.
Going back a few years now, it helped me come out about bisexuality and transvestite needs.
Thanks to mdma my wife and I got together again and now have a good loving and honest relationship after many years of avoiding communication.
Mdma also helped me recover from the trauma of a bad LSD experience almost 40 afterwards.

Yes I think mdma has therapeutic potential. What I'm not sure about though is exactly how it should be used in a therapeutic environment. How should the therapist behave? Should he/she be loved up as well? In the literature you see talk of a "therapeutic dose". How much would that be? 60 mg 80 mg? Lots of questions, I do hope does come of it though.