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The Underground Drug Culture is More Decent Than Most Would Think...

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AreksPurpose

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I've found that drug users and the drug culture in general, when dealing with the RIGHT people because I don't deal or hang with shady people, is respectful, kind and caring of the members of this underground society.

The people, the users, are just different. They have a different view of life than non-users and they tend to realize what life is about more than others. generally they are more donw to earth and listen to better music.

Has anyone any thoughts about this?
 
A lot of users are great like that, and I think there is somewhat of a sense of fellowship between a lot of users.

However, I'm inclined to think that there are just as many douchebags within this group of people. They can't all be great.
 
AreksPurpose said:
I've found that drug users and the drug culture in general, when dealing with the RIGHT people because I don't deal or hang with shady people, is respectful, kind and caring of the members of this underground society.

The people, the users, are just different. They have a different view of life than non-users and they tend to realize what life is about more than others. generally they are more donw to earth and listen to better music.

Has anyone any thoughts about this?
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the same can be said about non drug users when dealing with the RIGHT people. in general, the underground drug culture has a much higher rate of "shady" people than the non drug using community. i also think it's fairly presumptuous to claim they realize what life is about and elitist to say they listen to better music.
 
Among all of the different drug sub-cultures, you will always find a ton of sketchballs and downright bad people, but at the same time you can meet tons and tons of open-minded positive people that can be some of the most real people out there IMO.
 
AreksPurpose said:
Has anyone any thoughts about this?
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Yeah. I don't mind drug culture, but I can't stand drug users. The only ones I associate with are good friends I've known for a long ass time. The worst are the real ignorant drug users, or the ones that are just starting out.
 
burn out said:
in general, the underground drug culture has a much higher rate of "shady" people than the non drug using community.
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Might this be caused by the damnd War on Drugs?
 
I have experienced that in my town there is plenty of people that do oxy and methadone and every single one of them are liars....they act so nice to each other when talking to each other but all scam each other out of pills, money and/or try to get the hookup all to themselves....Even if they do help out each other when each other are hurting they are deceitful (sp).....Thats all Ive got to say about that....I have experienced some cool people in the weed culture though, of course!!
 
A very high percent of people involved with drugs are liars, thieves, or just generally shitballs. It's taken me years to finally get a set of friends that are intelligent, always do whatever they can to help, and never steal. People I can bring around my parents and such because they're not slobbering and mumbling gibberish all the time like many druggies. It was different in college, which was mostly just normal kids having fun. And I've given up on finding good people that are IV fiends like I am... about to give up trying to change the stereotype myself.
 
Try and hang around the drug culture after you sober up [somewhat]. The people tend not to be so cool.

Sure, most of my friends, do, or have done drugs on a reasonable scale in their lives. But they're my friends, and the drug use doesn't make shit all difference. When my coke dealer decided to sober up, and I did (partially) as well, as did a lot of my friends, we all realised pretty quickly who we were really friends with.
 
I'd say its pretty pretentious to say that drug use makes people "more interesting" and allows them to "figure out what it's all about".

The drug culture definitely has a much higher rate of assholes than straight society, but I think a lot of it has to do with prohibition. I'd also have to agree GreenMachine that some drug users can be some of the nicest/most interesting people out there.

I think about this issue quite a lot, mostly because pretty much all my friends (and definitely my close friends) are drugs users. Is that good thing or a bad thing? I don't know... All I know is that I find it harder to make good friends with completely straight people (the ones who don't simply not use drugs, but also don't know anything about them), then again this might also be due to the stigma associated with drug use and my particular environment.

Then again, there really is something about being high together with good friends. For a short period of time all of you are on the same drug induced wave length. Social inhibitions, ego centrism and all that garbage is brought to a minimum. Drugs definitely can bring people closer together.

I think it's wrong to say that drug users are better or worse than regular people. But I would agree that drug users as a whole tend to be crazier and more interesting, at least in my subjective opinion. And this is my life, so I'll go with what works for me.
 
Yah drug use tends to attract the underground, the downtrodden, the lonely hearts; those who survive on the fringes of society. It's not the drug culture per se... becase it attracts as much people just trying to be hip or with mental problems, thieves, scum, pleasure seekers etc.

This is a seperate culture in itself which is hard to categorize. You'll find the same type of people to a more or lesser extents into anime, music, furry, tv shows, movies, wiccan, new age, buddhism, video games, hell pretty much anything you can think of.

Which I think is crippling. You've been shit on by society, you're starting to see the truth through all that pain and you suddenly decide to devote your life to a "life-style" and make yourself that? It makes you just as bad as mainstream society. Like sheep to the herd.

Not that i'm not guilty of the same exact thing, i'm just musing.
 
'drug culture' is something that only grows in a petri dish. where there's money involved, people will turn into animals and drop any pretense of moral responsibility.

that's why i like bluelight; nobody here is looking into each other's pockets we just like being on drugs and talking about drugs :)
 
AreksPurpose said:
I've found that drug users and the drug culture in general, when dealing with the RIGHT people because I don't deal or hang with shady people, is respectful, kind and caring of the members of this underground society.

The people, the users, are just different. They have a different view of life than non-users and they tend to realize what life is about more than others. generally they are more donw to earth and listen to better music.

Has anyone any thoughts about this?
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I'm guessing you've just started out in the drug scene, where it's a few (insert DOC here) every other weekend.

I had this same view over 10 years ago, it lasted for a while, then I started being drawn deeper into perth's underworld, not against my will but it was certainly not something I had intended on.

pretty soon any boundries you set yourself, either drugs or drug related activities get blurred and confused unless you keep the drug world at arms length.

I learnt real quick the people who seem to share a fellowship with you, are the same people who'll put a knife to throat for 50bucks.
 
swifty said:
I learnt real quick the people who seem to share a fellowship with you, are the same people who'll put a knife to throat for 50bucks.
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And if they're not now, give them a few years abusing their drug of choice.
 
Nessa B. said:
I have experienced that in my town there is plenty of people that do oxy and methadone and every single one of them are liars....they act so nice to each other when talking to each other but all scam each other out of pills, money and/or try to get the hookup all to themselves....Even if they do help out each other when each other are hurting they are deceitful (sp).....Thats all Ive got to say about that....I have experienced some cool people in the weed culture though, of course!!
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This is true and they have one more main thing in common that you left out. They are all unemployed.
 
I suppose if they are the right people, but the 'right' people can go bad on you fucking quick.
 
People that revolve their lives around drugs are scum.

Honestly, I was at a friends house and one guy came over to score a bag (small ass $20 sack) and next thing you know, fucker is trying to get more, but wants to pay for it with a computer monitor.

If that isn't sketchy, I have absolutely no idea what is.
 
I dont think i could even begin to count the number of ppl i have shot dope with over the years that have fallen off, ripped other friends off or just vanished into thin air. I can relate to most weed entusiests, but thats about it. Back when i was locked into the dope cycle most of the ppl i would chill with were pretty much like me. Even though we had the same habits as the less informed "street junkies", there was a difference.....WE WERE INFORMED. haha....like ive seen ppl cook shots and not filter, or cold shake pills, all sorts of shit that if you take 5 minutes to read up on, you can really do yourself and your friends a great service.

Nothing is worse than the ppl who hear all the crazy mis-information about drugs and fight tooth and nail about its authenticity.
 
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