Positive The Tapering Supportive/Social Thread

[Nas47]

There is an artist named Christ Bearer from a rap band/group called ‘Wu Tang Clan’. He’s a black man in the USA. In 2014 he had a revelation while on PCP that his problems in life (i.e. three children by 3 different women and paying loads of child support for all if them) could be traced directly back to his “9 inches”.

He was high as hell, at home with a few friends in the house, and in the kitchen by himself when the whole idea passed through his mind that the solution was to cut off his penis. So he grabbed a pair of scissors and amputated it. Then he jumped off his balcony (2nd floor) and landed in some bushes in an attempt to commit suicide.

He lived but he doctors were not able to reattach his manhood. He believes to this day that it was the right thing to do and he is truly at peace with the ‘new direction’ his life has taken. (He also acknowledges that it was crazy and stupid).

Clearly the move towards the drawer with the scissors was a mistake but there’s no doubt that PCP gave him a revelation that he wasn’t able to achieve in any other way. It has a bad rap for a good reason. Seems though that it could be incredibly helpful if used with supervision.

There was some even more horror movie.American rapper(forget the name) high on PCP killed and eat his friend.Now with lifetime sentence.I am far from that to think that PCP(which i never tried) is the reason to do that.God knows what has happened.But this case is in my memory.To kill and eat somebody in modern day society is not common.

 

[papercuts]

There is an artist named Christ Bearer from a rap band/group called ‘Wu Tang Clan’. He’s a black man in the USA. In 2014 he had a revelation while on PCP that his problems in life (i.e. three children by 3 different women and paying loads of child support for all if them) could be traced directly back to his “9 inches”.

He was high as hell, at home with a few friends in the house, and in the kitchen by himself when the whole idea passed through his mind that the solution was to cut off his penis. So he grabbed a pair of scissors and amputated it. Then he jumped off his balcony (2nd floor) and landed in some bushes in an attempt to commit suicide.

He lived but he doctors were not able to reattach his manhood. He believes to this day that it was the right thing to do and he is truly at peace with the ‘new direction’ his life has taken. (He also acknowledges that it was crazy and stupid).

Clearly the move towards the drawer with the scissors was a mistake but there’s no doubt that PCP gave him a revelation that he wasn’t able to achieve in any other way. It has a bad rap for a good reason. Seems though that it could be incredibly helpful if used with supervision.

A vasectomy might have been a better idea...

 

[Squeaky]

A vasectomy might have been a better idea...

No kidding.

 

[Squeaky]

There was some even more horror movie.American rapper(forget the name) high on PCP killed and eat his friend.Now with lifetime sentence.I am far from that to think that PCP(which i never tried) is the reason to do that.God knows what has happened.But this case is in my memory.To kill and eat somebody in modern day society is not common.

Big Lurch..... he ate part of his roommate’s lungs (female). His friend called the police when he was found standing in the street naked and covered in the dead girl’s blood. I forgot about him. Scary as hell.

I couldn’t ever use PCP, not without some very responsible supervision. I don’t judge anyone and their drug use but that crap scares me. I get angry and stupid enough when I’m sober. That’s one of those moments when your whole life gets flushed down the toilet and I know I would commit suicide if I hurt someone I care about.

I have a young friend in his 20’s. About 10 years ago his dad got really drunk and brutally murdered his roommate(female). Bludgeoned her so badly that the cops couldn’t tell if it was a man or woman, and he had blacked out so he has zero memory of the incident. He gets out of jail in about 5 years. I’m hoping he has hit rock bottom and never drinks again, but only time will tell.

We all do stupid crazy when we’re ’under the influence’ but I have never gotten that kind of drunk.

 

[sedgewick1]

Buprenorphine is an excellent pain killer in patch form, it takes a week to kick in properly, but if all you wanted was pain relief with no real high, then slow release bupe is that med.

Really? I think I've had a lot in my system orally and never noticed that. How do you make the poppy tea? I used to just grind them, add hot water, steep then drink all the grounds and liquid for max benefit. Awful taste.

There was some even more horror movie.American rapper(forget the name) high on PCP killed and eat his friend.Now with lifetime sentence.I am far from that to think that PCP(which i never tried) is the reason to do that.God knows what has happened.But this case is in my memory.To kill and eat somebody in modern day society is not common.

I think I ate a whole pizza once on PCP, but if I had ever started on forkfuls of my wife I think she would have called the cops on me earlier than she did.

 

[Nas47]

Really? I think I've had a lot in my system orally and never noticed that. How do you make the poppy tea? I used to just grind them, add hot water, steep then drink all the grounds and liquid for max benefit. Awful taste.

I think I ate a whole pizza once on PCP, but if I had ever started on forkfuls of my wife I think she would have called the cops on me earlier than she did.

I like the taste of poppy tea.Like the Kratom taste too,but when i put a psylocibe in my mouth get nausea immidietly.Have habbit to chew any pill too

 

[sedgewick1]

I couldn’t ever use PCP, not without some very responsible supervision.

Well, the info is out there on the research chemical PCP analogues (PsychonautWiki for harm reduction purposes, no sourcing). I'd never reveal sources here, but its all readily available over the clear net and dark net with some knowledge of how to use bitcoin. Loads of scam sites too so its kind of a minefield. I've also had international shipments seized by USA Customs several times and have gotten "Love Letters" from Customs regarding the seizures. Kinda unsettling, but I've never had anything come of it or have heard of others this has happened to having problems who have ordered only personal use quantities. I'm a firm believer in informing people to the max and then letting them decide what they want to ingest.

Well, I've probably hijacked this taper thread enough with all this PCP rambling. My real angle for jumping in is that I really do believe that the stuff can help a lot with an opiate taper and provide some info from someone with a lot of experience with both opiates and PCP . If you're thinking you might go down this road, better do a lot of research ahead of time, eyes wide open, and realize the fire you could be playing with.

 

[sedgewick1]

I like the taste of poppy tea.

LOL. Can't say I ever liked it. But I drank the grounds plus liquid. Few times I've done it I'd rather chew mushrooms over the tea taste-wise. Been a while but I'd say peyote cactus is on par with the tea from a culinary perspective.

 

[Nas47]

LOL. Can't say I ever liked it. But I drank the grounds plus liquid. Few times I've done it I'd rather chew mushrooms over the tea taste-wise. Been a while but I'd say peyote cactus is on par with the tea from a culinary perspective.

Even eat the pod right out of the stem and suck the latex.Never tried peyote,but like to chew dried San Pedro.Like the biterness of iboga rootbark too.Bitter is great

 

[papercuts]

Really? I think I've had a lot in my system orally and never noticed that. How do you make the poppy tea? I used to just grind them, add hot water, steep then drink all the grounds and liquid for max benefit. Awful taste.

As a transdermal patch it's constant and very good for chronic pain, not acute pain, but even for that it probably helps. Ever since I had a patch I keep bumping into things too, dunno why, it's a long time now.
I've tried many pod tea methods, I strain it, never ate the ground up pods. Currently I find the effort:effect ratio is best when I put the powdered pod in a flask with boiling water and shake it, leave it ten minutes (I figure most microbes are dead by ten minutes), strain and repeat.
Only until I get another smoothie maker/coffee grinder when everyone sells their unwanted christmas presents in January.
Once I have one of those, I'll grind the pods in the smoothie maker then add boiling water directly and whizz it all a few minutes until the water is dark. Done that way the second rinse has almost nothing, seems it all goes quickly into the water with enough heat and friction, but the pressure needs released a couple of times or it might explode boiling water everywhere.
My old smoothie maker never had any other plant near it gave up within it's warranty, but it was so dark brown around the edges I didn't send it back, lol.
Then there's the expresso method, but usually I can't be arsed getting out that and waiting by the stove for it to go upwards. I think there is too much heat in that method, destroys some with the heat of the steam imo.
I think any coffee method can be used, it shouldn't be burnt, same as coffee. Dissolves in hot water, same as coffee.
As awful as the taste is, I actually quite like it, it's the association I guess, it's unique.
It only came up again once, maybe a year ago, but I was well into withdrawal at that stage and panicking about how I was going to get that tea into me if my stomach wouldn't take it (one of my failed attempts at quitting, my stomach was ok second time).

 

[papercuts]

Even eat the pod right out of the stem and suck the latex.Never tried peyote,but like to chew dried San Pedro.Like the biterness of iboga rootbark too.Bitter is great

Yes, I've spent many a happy afternoon wandering around discretely chewing up poppy pods then spitting out the fibre. Usually with headphones on completely oblivious to the world and weeding my veg patch at the same time. I miss summer.
Bitter is good, yes.

 

[sedgewick1]

Yes, I've spent many a happy afternoon wandering around discretely chewing up poppy pods then spitting out the fibre. Usually with headphones on completely oblivious to the world and weeding my veg patch at the same time. I miss summer.
Bitter is good, yes.

Oh, so you have access to fresh pods too? They probably taste a lot better. I dimly remember sometimes getting fresh in with my dried shipments, but don't recall the taste.

 

[papercuts]

Oh, so you have access to fresh pods too? They probably taste a lot better. I dimly remember sometimes getting fresh in with my dried shipments, but don't recall the taste.

Taste awful, better or worse I'm not sure, but somehow it absolutely doesn't matter how they taste at the time.

In fact I'm not sure I taste them at all after my mouth goes numb.

 

[Squeaky]

Well, the info is out there on the research chemical PCP analogues (PsychonautWiki for harm reduction purposes, no sourcing). I'd never reveal sources here, but its all readily available over the clear net and dark net with some knowledge of how to use bitcoin. Loads of scam sites too so its kind of a minefield. I've also had international shipments seized by USA Customs several times and have gotten "Love Letters" from Customs regarding the seizures. Kinda unsettling, but I've never had anything come of it or have heard of others this has happened to having problems who have ordered only personal use quantities. I'm a firm believer in informing people to the max and then letting them decide what they want to ingest.

Well, I've probably hijacked this taper thread enough with all this PCP rambling. My real angle for jumping in is that I really do believe that the stuff can help a lot with an opiate taper and provide some info from someone with a lot of experience with both opiates and PCP . If you're thinking you might go down this road, better do a lot of research ahead of time, eyes wide open, and realize the fire you could be playing with.

Thanks for the information. I’ll be staying far away from anything psychedelic. I have enough addictions to tackle already.

 

[hylite]

Here it is 3a.m. in the morning well now almost 4. ♡

And of course I woke myself up sick because I needed a pill. And I just took a little bit. Only about 3mg's hydrocodo. It helped so dearly though.

That's it. Just a little bit. I had some really good oxycodone last week. Oh it was so good. Heaven. I might opt to take one today on my way to get some wax.

I am going to take my Budie and stay warm and have a Day. ♡

I love my dog. Should this be in recovery.

I can hear the wind blowing. Not used to this wintey weather. But it hitz harsh when it does.


Thank you dear jesus for weed because I am going to need it.


Are their any doctors reading this on here.
Please prescribe medications to you patients.

Good pain medication.

Edit: But yes I do seem to taper from the oxycodone to the hydrocodone. They might actually be the same thing but I don't pay that much attention anymore. This is because I am headed toward sobriety. Real Somber.

 

[hylite]

Someone out and about. BL confidentiality stuff. Anyway to go get my ganglion cyst removed. The doctor said it was tendonitis.
It's wrecked from bad injury stress. Bad bad bad.
Like Bad as in the worst of the worst. Sad also. Very much more sad because it can't be fixed.
F.I.A. Sorry.
K back to the pain.
Life ahh bites back at all.

Edit: And like very Bad.

 

[Squeaky]

I wanted to be back in control of my oxy script so badly. It’s not even because I want to get high whenever I want. It is really only because I want these damn pills to stop controlling my life. It’s clear that I’ll probably never get control back, or at least not anytime soon (as evidenced by my serious overuse of my Percocet right now). My last refill of 2021 has come and gone. Next year starts a new insurance deductible. It feels like a good time to cancel my next Dr appointment and never go back.

I won’t do it. I have said it every month since May and I just keep trying to cut the problem in half, all while making it 2x worse. Someday soon I’ll have to rip off the bandaid and start quitting for real.

 

[Squeaky]

I’ll be sooooo happy when the holidays are past. Too much traffic, too much stress, too many obligations. The whole thing makes me want a time machine just to travel 2 weeks into the future.

Every day I wish I had more of my pills. I tell myself that it would only be to comfort my aching back. I make little promises to myself that I would only use them in the morning, or only the evening, or only on weekends. And then I realize I said it before breakfast, after lunch, a couple of hours before bed, and every day since I ran out. It’s not just the holidays, but that definitely makes it worse.

I caught myself thinking about looking for the pills my wife has hidden for me. The house isn’t big, and I’m guessing I could find them. Again.... I tell myself it would only be one time. Thankfully I pulled my head out of my ass and realized that if I did find them, it would NOT be just once and then I would go stir crazy for the rest of my life trying not to think about them. I decided it was better to suffer with my aches and pains than to drive myself insane for all of eternity, so I didn’t look for them.

 

[papercuts]

Damn, the dentist says my teeth are fine which means me having this pain in my ear/jaw/mouth isn't dental. It might be a recurrence of a tumour removed 11years ago. So they are referring me as urgent to the hospital, but covid means we basically have no doctors available and it'll take months, if I'm lucky.
I would be in melfdown without dope right now, but I feel calm and whatever will be will be.
I think this is a great excuse to get slaughtered over the next week, lol.

 

[Squeaky]

Damn, the dentist says my teeth are fine which means me having this pain in my ear/jaw/mouth isn't dental. It might be a recurrence of a tumour removed 11years ago. So they are referring me as urgent to the hospital, but covid means we basically have no doctors available and it'll take months, if I'm lucky.
I would be in melfdown without dope right now, but I feel calm and whatever will be will be.
I think this is a great excuse to get slaughtered over the next week, lol.

That sucks...... hopefully you can wait until the “winter surge” of Omicron passes. Medical staff have been in short supply worldwide lately and the next two months are going to be worse.