TDS The Suicide Support Thread

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I am so lost right now. I only have 3 weeks clean after my last relapse and im just trying to get back to normal but it seems impossible. I lost my fiance, my other half, my only reason im still here because of my addiction. Its killing me. I finally turned a corner and feel like my old self again except for the fact that i feel like a part of me missing since she ended it. I know most people nowadays dont believe in true love but this was it. She was my one and only. We were supposed to be getting married, have children since we lost our first child and now shes gone. Too little, too late. I dont know what to do. I overdosed more times than i can count in the past 6 months. I had a death wish but now i want life but i dont want it without her. I wanted to end my life today and then I decided to hold on after reading these forums but right after we got in a huge argument and it just further reminded me how done she is. I cant do this without her. I dont know what to do. I dont want to run back to dope but im having trouble thinking about anything excepet purposefully overdosing myself. I need help. I want life but i just dont want the life i have. Everything is so clouded right now. I cant think straight. I just want to end it all. As long as im breathing, I feel like I'll be in pain. Im sorry if this doesnt make much sense. My mind is going a mile a minute. If anyone is out there, please help.
 
Blazinglow1588 - you can have the life you want - you just have to get clean. You are on the right path, just focus on doing what you're doing and keep moving forward. I am sorry you lost your fiancé, but that happens during addiction. You will eventually meet somebody, or once your clean it's possible you will get back together with you're fiancé - who knows. What we do know is that there is no chance of that, or meeting someone healthy while you are actively using. Take this time now to focus on you, figure out the issues that are motivating you to want to use and address them.

Stay focused on recovery. You want a good life and you know that's not going to happen while you use. If you are worried about relapse there are some medications that can help with craving and addictions - I'm guessing you are addicted to opiates based on your thread history - try naltrexone (pills) or better yet the Vivitrol shot (naltrexone in long lasting shot 30 a days). Because of Vivitrol I am alive and sober today - neither of those would have happened without the shot.if that is not an option and you do relapse consider maintenance therapy for a while - and give yourself time to step down slowly. Keep in mind it's absolutely critical that you address the issues driving you to use.

I am sorry you feel so low right now - I can relate and was in that position 5 years ago. I too know you feel like you will never have a healthy life, and will be alone, but life has a way of working out and can change rather quickly. I got sober in 2010, then quickly relapsed, and got sober at the end of 2011 for a year. during that time I got a fantastic job and met the man of my dreams. We got married and bought a house together. I relapsed again. I went back to rehab. I've been clean for two years and still have the man of my dreams with a beautiful house on the golf course in a beach town working a low stress (albeit low paying) job. Considering I thought I would be dead by now, life has really surprised me with so many positive changes that wouldn't have happened if I we not sober. It just took time, and the best things happened to me when I was sober. It will happen for you as well, just give it time and focus on staying sober. I wish you the best!
 
I knew about Vivitrol. Didn't know it was so effective. It's good to hear you have beated the addiction and adapted so well, although it seems it took a lot of work, efforts and time to get to where you stand right now. Good endings are rare to hear in some threads but definitely accomplishble. I encourage others to share how tough it was to go through bad moments in life. That endorses that most of suffering are divided in phases and even if it takes time, life is too important for us not to loose hope. And for those who are around hoping our best.
Wish you all a great weekend!
E.
 
I knew about Vivitrol. Didn't know it was so effective. It's good to hear you have beated the addiction and adapted so well, although it seems it took a lot of work, efforts and time to get to where you stand right now. Good endings are rare to hear in some threads but definitely accomplishble. I encourage others to share how tough it was to go through bad moments in life. That endorses that most of suffering are divided in phases and even if it takes time, life is too important for us not to loose hope. And for those who are around hoping our best.
Wish you all a great weekend!
E.

I think the stories are rare because the true healing and recovery time is much longer than most think - it certainly was for me and I know I am not totally healed, but I feel better as more time passes so I know I am still improving. Personally, I will never beat addiction - my opinion. Addiction is a part of who I am, and it will always be there. I choose to not engage it, and as long as I don't engage it I will be fine. I know if I were to pick up a drink I would be right back to where I left off, though I wish there were a cure.

I think a lot of us fail, myself included, because we do lose hope and we get tired of all the hard work for seemingly little results and so it's easier to go back to what we know, and what we know will give us an exciting dopamine response. The first time I failed I was expecting to feel better soon, and I thought a year was more than enough time. I also thought that all I had to do was stop drinking, and good things would happen. Getting healthy is about so much more than just stopping using, it's so much more complex than what addictions specialists make it out to be with having to break a habit, going through an extreme imbalance such as withdrawal, learning healthy habits, dealing with the root mental health issues and processing the emotions, waiting for neurochemical balance, trying to get emotionally healthy while your perceptions are totally skewed, relearning how to live, etc. that is not an exhaustive list either, but just the main ones I could think of. When someone struggles for so long, and consistently feels terrible and there isn't a noticeable "better", it seems perfectly rational to relapse and use - just for a break from the misery. I think the only way I could have had true pleasure during that time was to use, but I denied myself because I didn't want to start all over again, and I didn't want to put my family through all that. I knew if I picked up again I would most likely omit suicide. I truly believe that's where the phrase "you have to want sobriety for yourself" comes into play because if you don't, there is little or no incentive to continue.

Honestly, it took around three years for me to get to a point where I even felt human, by that point I had lost all hope of a happy life, and was just waiting out the clock because I wasn't going to commit suicide while my parents or my kitties were still alive - I had already put them through enough. I also didn't want to die an addict, so there was no turning back. Regardless of how I felt, I was resolved to be sober. It was the only passion I had left in me. I wanted it. I wanted to be in control of my body, and I forfeited that control when I used.

I thought that anhedonia was the new normal, and though it want as bad as the first year of sobriety, it wasn't enjoyable. It was living purgatory. Then one day out of the blue my Dad mentioned how much healthier I seemed, I was getting ready to make an acerbic comment when I realized he was right. The anxiety was half of what it was, I was rational, I could carry on a conversation, and my memory was getting better. Still not great, but it was significantly better than what it was and that, for the first time in three years, gave me hope and motivation. However, had I not wanted sobriety, truly wanted orbiter more than nothing else, I would have failed again within the first is months.

I hope all this makes sense, I have been writing this off and on all day as I started responding while I was at work, and now I'm getting ready for bed, so it wasn't continuously written. I'm too tired to proof read it now, so if there re mistakes (I'm certain there are and my autocorrect is useless), they will get fixed tomorrow.
 
I think you articulated it very well, M. I especially like the wording (and the concept) of something in you that you simply don't choose to engage anymore. That makes a lot of sense to me. It speaks to the self-acceptance that is so often difficult for us humans--especially in regards to something we feel ashamed of or that causes us to face our own fallibility. I've not had to do it with addiction, but I have had to do it with guilt (an addiction to guilt?).
 
It does make sense I do relate with most of those feelings as I'm still going through my second year. So things are still adapting, regardless of how well we follow the rules it's really not as perfect as I had expected. But by getting better and having people noticing about our behaviour it starts to become an incentive together with your own efforts and self realization. It's quite a relief to hear that it takes longer than we think to feel totally back to 'normal'. Like you mentioned I had also expected things would have been very different during my second year when I no longer had to struggle with things I had fought with in order to understand that my previous life was really over and that I had to follow a different path.

It's good to understand others go through feelings that also belongs to life itself except that they are under the microscope and we are constantly wanting our life back. One of my things that keep me going is also looking back and see how far I have gone. How happier and calmer my family started to feel. The trust issues are on the table again and that encourages us to go for the extra mile.

Thanks for having shared this and for having taken the time to do it carefully covering everything you've gone through. I'm not that different, I'm just in a different phase, but I'm sure this will also help others and create feel something we try a lot to express in recovery which is HOPE!
 
To EXjg n Moreaux I have always known the bond of unconditional love of animals I had a dog that got me thru my mom's death in 99..she would lay her head in my lap n just look at me so I couldn't do it coz then she wouldn't have me to take care of her.... Just saying things can get better in ur own self..I was feeling hopeless myself a few months ago n actually looked up the mld (minum lethal dosage) of amitriptalline so I would go to sleep n not wake up again but luckily I didn't have enuff to do it n I got on here n talked to Erik n Herbie n they actually helped me get thru the worst of it...(btw..Hello to y'all I see that y'all are still going strong with this thread ...)
 
Kat, that's really awesome, thanks for sharing. I feel awful right now, but you reminded me of one positive thing, which helps a lot. Thank you.
I'm doing some voluntary dog walking for a charity that helps the terminally ill/ elderly with their pets. I highly recommend doing this to anyone who has spare time and loves animals. I had my first dog yesterday, a really energetic yet well behaved little jack russell. I'm having surgery in a few hours but will hopefully be dog walking again on Sunday.

What other things do you all do to keep busy/ distracted/ not acting on self-destructive thoughts? I can't stand being in my head.
 
just beat cancer and somehow i feel more depressed than ever. shouldn't i be happy? i'm so fucking fatigued after my treatment, i'm afraid i'm never going to go back to normal. and so anxious that i'm going to get some secondary problems from the chemo. my risk for so many diseases is so much higher now.

you'd think after fighting cancer, the struggles of every day life would pale in comparison. but they're more overwhelming than ever.

i think about suicide every day.
 
just beat cancer and somehow i feel more depressed than ever. shouldn't i be happy? i'm so fucking fatigued after my treatment, i'm afraid i'm never going to go back to normal. and so anxious that i'm going to get some secondary problems from the chemo. my risk for so many diseases is so much higher now.

you'd think after fighting cancer, the struggles of every day life would pale in comparison. but they're more overwhelming than ever.

i think about suicide every day.

Kudos for beating cancer!!! I'm sorry you're so depressed. Much of that depression may be a side effect from the chemo, it should get better in time. I understand your fears regarding the repercussions of chemo but try not to let them consume you. Worrying about them is not going to accomplish anything but increase stress which us negative effects on overall health and immunity. You have been through so much you need to go easy on yourself and recover. I know it's so much easier to say than to do, but somehow you hve to find a way to push it out of your mind. That being said, stay vigilant about doctor's visits and checkups, but there is only so much you can do. You've been given an opportunity that many don't get, try to make the most of it! I wish you the best, and congratulations again!
 
just beat cancer and somehow i feel more depressed than ever. shouldn't i be happy? i'm so fucking fatigued after my treatment, i'm afraid i'm never going to go back to normal. and so anxious that i'm going to get some secondary problems from the chemo. my risk for so many diseases is so much higher now.

you'd think after fighting cancer, the struggles of every day life would pale in comparison. but they're more overwhelming than ever.

i think about suicide every day.

You'll be fine. I agree with Moreaux, this is a phase probably triggered by the treatment itself.
It takes a bit of time until your body and mind find the balance you need. But you'll get there.
When we get accustomed to deal with certain conditions, like Cancer this becomes our shield and it's normal to feel down when you get rid of it.
This too will pass. <3
 
i was really depressed even before i was diagnosed. had a suicide attempt and a psych ward stay in the beginning of december, didn't start cancer treatment til the end of february.
 
I think you may need to see a therapist. Engaging in new activities may also help. Take classes in something completely foreign to you. My husband signed us up for ballroom dance classes when I was really down. I knew nothing about it and surprisingly really enjoyed them. The challenge helped to pull me out of my funk.
 
yeah that is part of my problem, lack of class... i was attending school full time until i got sick, and have been unable to work or attend class since. cabin fever sucks.

i am signed up to see a therapist, first appointment is next monday. i've tried therapists before, and they haven't helped... but i think mostly because i wasn't willing to open up. still not sure it will help this time, but i'm going to try.

hopefully when i get in to see the psychiatrist there, he listens to me when i say i want to try medicine other than SSRIs. i'm experiencing a lot of chemo fatigue, and have been told all my life that i have ADD but have never actually gotten treatment for it. hopefully those two factors along with the fact that i'll be starting school back up in september will convince him to let me try a stimulant as an antidepressant instead of an SSRI...
 
Overcoming an illness can definitely leave you depressed. Chemo affects body and brain. It's really important for you to be doing the best self care possible right now. Boost that immune system anyway you can! Surround yourself with positive people who care. You've just faced your mortality... That would shake anyone. This is a very high risk time for a readmission so I agree on getting some meds. Have you tried a specialist for ADD? The downside is the Stims have bad come downs as you probably know.... Long acting is best... Can you begin preparing for your studies in any way now? Something that helps you feel accomplishment. Like I said.... Self care right now is most important... :)
 
^ Absolutely!
About the therapy, it's mostly about trust. Once you've passed this, you'll naturally let it go.
Sometimes in order to achieve this you should probably forget what you have to say or not say.
Even the silence between both of you can work towards trusting. Let people in, it's difficult in the beginning but overwhelming with time.
Take care!
 
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