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The Sticky 2009 Hash Oil Thread (Merged)

drscience said:
butane method takes 1/2 hour to have a smokeable product ready. much safer and much higher quality product is acheived also.

research "hashmasta kut" and purging techniques on tokecity.com in the mean time.
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thanks. i'll switch over to butane for suer.

please do post the details later on, if you don't mind. if you do, i'll be sure to post some pics of the method and final product.
 
Trogdor said:
dude. cannabinoids are non-polar compounds. extract them with a non-polar solvent (i.e. NOT alcohol or acetone) or it will be inefficient.
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that is an interesting point but ultimately moot because isopropanol is clearly a commonly used and effective solvent for lipids (eg. the type that trichomes are made of, which suspend the THC.)

acetone's polar btw so it would turn the whole green into a muck that i'm guessing would need to be further manipulated to separate most of the shit out.

naptha's impractical since it'll take the better part of a decade to evaporate unless it's being heated and also considering that it's biocidal as fuck makes the fairly less im-gonna-fucking-kill-you-if-you-dare-breathe-me butane rank still higher as a viable alternative and it's quite an excellent alternative i may add since the endothermic reaction that takes place flash freezes all the polar content in the plant while it strips out the good stuff.

but at the lack of getting into some complicated shit, isopropanol works great for the average pothead making hash in the kitchen/bedroom/bathroom/living room/basement. you're also a lot less likely to blow yourself up if making hash while already high.
 
1. evap time is dependent on whether or not it's heated, being excasterbated, and surface area. basically, you know it's done when you touch the gook with your finger and it's sticky as fuck instead of wet.

2. again, dependent on surface area. think of alcohol in a bottle versus when you wipe it on a surface. it doesn't evaporate in front of your eyes from the bottle but it does from the surface.

3. see 1

4. once again, dependent on surface area and with butane as well as alcohol i myself prefer to put it in a dish with corners and blow the fuck out of it with a fan rather than heating it
 
cool. what size drill bit did anyone use for the hole in the pipe cap for the butane nozzle?
 
I recently popped my butane hash cherry.Here were my findings:


I bought a certain kind of butane for 3 dollars per large bottle.
It advertizes "filtered 5 times for purity" on the bottle and was
bought at a tobacco(cigarrete)store. When I get
my shit together I will post the brand name because if you use
just any butane, some brands are less pure and it can make
for unpleasant to smoke hash, and let me tell you this stuff
is wonderfull to smoke if done right!

I then went to lowes and bought a pre-threaded 1 1/2X3 "
(give or take)pipe and I got a cap for one end, which ended up
being the butane injection end.I did not use a drillbit as it's
not entirely necessary.
Upon taking the cap off my butane there was several plastic
adaptors for filling different brands of lighters. I simply put
an end on the butane can and heated a roofing nail ( pretty
easy to find) and made my injection hole (into the 3-4" pipe's
cap.The other end just leave open.

Now pack your clean deseeded consistent weed into the chamber
and tie wrap a rubber band or other plastic tie wrap. THe butane
will disolve glue into tape.

squeeze the butane into the little hole-out till it looks and feels like cold gasoline is coming out running onto the plate. evap is easy.Just a little warm water.scrape and enjoy

note that the reaction is VERY EXPLOSIVE AND SHOULD BE DONE OUTSIDE AND THE REACTION GETS VERY COLD SO MAKE PLANS
 
what about doing a naptha wash after an iso extraction? You would have to evap less naptha, maybe end up with cleaner product?
 
thujone said:
naptha's impractical since it'll take the better part of a decade to evaporate unless it's being heated
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If you heat it (for example: if you set your pyrex dish on a space heater, it will evaporate in less than 12 hours IME. I have only used naphtha in DXM extractions but that is how it went.
 
Get it super cold. Chill it in the freezer first, it will be more selective and grab less chlorophyll and tarry junk.
 
^-- a tip for iso.


if you put a strong fan next to your naphtha evap dish so that the air blows parallel to the surface of the solvent, it will evaporate your naphtha a lot more quickly.

somebody should do a straight naphtha extraction. i'd like to know the quality of the end product.
 
I can get Methylated spirits which is 98% Ethanol and 2% Methanol. I know Methanol is a horrible poison that they put in too stop people drinking it but it also evaporates efficiently.

So if I chop up the weed into dust and chill both the weed and the Methylated spirits. Then shook both them together for 5 minutes and filter the mixture would this be at least a half decent yeild?

New Zeland has different laws regarding Naptha, iso alcohol etc so it makes it hard. On the flip side I can easilt get a gas canister of lighter fluid .... but that's in gas form?

Thanks for any replies.
 
ihateyou

thanks. was your pipe made of PVC, steel, or copper?

i've read bad things about PVC. but it seems like everyone saying that it's bad hasn't actually used it to make anything. then, all the videos and older recipes call for using PVC for the tube.

what the heck

chairmanMAO
 
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the pipe method is the best. i wouldnt use copper or pvc though. Stainless steel is the way to go.

pipe with 1 cap, small hole in cap, open on other end. fill with weed, and CLOSE WITH COFFEE FILTER. run through with refined cigar butane. ( Collibri brand if possible NEVER RONSON)

and one important detail, PURGING.
when the product is finished, it should be a glassy transparent amber or red colour.

when the solvent is mostly gone, (after doing the run OUTSIDE), you should put the plate in a dish of boiling water. spread the oil around on the plate as if it were drywall compound always looking for smooth even distribution. (more surface area, more evaporation of solvents. keep doing this until there are no more bubbles in the product.
 
thujone said:
that is an interesting point but ultimately moot because isopropanol is clearly a commonly used and effective solvent for lipids (eg. the type that trichomes are made of, which suspend the THC.)

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naptha's impractical since it'll take the better part of a decade to evaporate unless it's being heated and also considering that it's biocidal as fuck makes the fairly less im-gonna-fucking-kill-you-if-you-dare-breathe-me butane rank still higher as a viable alternative and it's quite an excellent alternative i may add since the endothermic reaction that takes place flash freezes all the polar content in the plant while it strips out the good stuff.

but at the lack of getting into some complicated shit, isopropanol works great for the average pothead making hash in the kitchen/bedroom/bathroom/living room/basement. you're also a lot less likely to blow yourself up if making hash while already high.
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I had pretty much the same reasoning. To my surprise, 100% pure isopropanol was really easy to get and its worth about 20$ a gallon.

Everything is ready for the operation but I just didnt have time to do it yet. As soon as its done i'll update with pics, notes taken during the procedure and of course, results :)
 
Zzyzx said:
Everything is ready for the operation but I just didnt have time to do it yet. As soon as its done i'll update with pics, notes taken during the procedure and of course, results :)
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we should just throw all our herb together and see what comes of it. i'll be trying my first BUTANE HONEY OIL extraction tomorrow. can't wait.

pretty excited about this thread too..
 
8ft-Sativa said:
I can get Methylated spirits which is 98% Ethanol and 2% Methanol. I know Methanol is a horrible poison that they put in too stop people drinking it but it also evaporates efficiently. So if I chop up the weed into dust and chill both the weed and the Methylated spirits. Then shook both them together for 5 minutes and filter the mixture would this be at least a half decent yeild? New Zeland has different laws regarding Naptha, iso alcohol etc so it makes it hard. On the flip side I can easilt get a gas canister of lighter fluid .... but that's in gas form? Thanks for any replies.
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I wouldnt let the bud soak for more than 40 seconds if your using an alcohol product to extract. The longer its soaked the more chorophyll and other non wanted additives get in. Everytime I use iso alcohol to do a hash oil extract i only soak and shake for 10-20 seconds and get a good yield and good product.
 
i fucking SLICED my thumb open today scraping the goo outta the bottom of my glass baking dish.

i want to say something tho before this thread ends...


BHO is awesome. i shared some with my friends today. it was also awesome. it has just been a day of complete and utter stoned-ness. please go make some. especially if you are one of those bluelighters that can't get good weed but loves smoking grass, please make some of this shit.

the fucking internet rules!
 
Help?!?! said:
I wouldnt let the bud soak for more than 40 seconds if your using an alcohol product to extract. The longer its soaked the more chorophyll and other non wanted additives get in. Everytime I use iso alcohol to do a hash oil extract i only soak and shake for 10-20 seconds and get a good yield and good product.
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Thanks Bro! Right now I have some iso chilling in the freezer and have just finished powdering 2 grams of dank.

I love the paranoia free high hash gives me!

These buds are giving me mad paranoia compared to the Nepalease hash/pollen I was smoking a few months back. All they smoke in that part of the world is extracts there's many different types and they all have one thing in common and that's a pretty clear headed paranoia free high.

Will update with photo's when it's finished.
 
No problem theres always a misconception that you should soak it for along time but that will give you more quanity but a lot lower quality. I think thats the main reason people look down on hash oil but a short soak will give you some good hash. The best route for highest quality though is honey oil using butane.
 
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