Dissociatives The Small & Handy PCE (Eticyclidine) Thread

[Hexagon Sun]

You are not spamming, but the opposite, gving super interesting datapoints on one of the most obscure compounds out there. Its a pity that you are finishing your eassys with it.

OTOH; I totally relate to your conclusions. I myself quitted 98% of porn usage during the last 2 years. It feels fantastic. Also quitted most drugs except psychs and some spare dissos too. Feeling healthier than ever.

Other changes that felt great this years: hitting the gym and going mostly carnivore. Totally gamechangers...

 

[Bitchniggaz]

Feel like I'm spamming the PCE board at this point but I have indulged in this substance a couple more times over the past two days (making for 8 experiences total). Each of these last two days I combined it with ketamine that I dried out of a vial.

Today it was blustery, grey, and rainy but I somehow got down to a secluded beach under a cliff overlooked by some amazing homes. Sat there thinking while alternating between listening to music and the waves. Felt really good and the visual effects were quite pleasant. Felt like I was able to really resolve an unhealthy relationship during this time, and I reached a place where I'm happy to be moving forward. Once it got dark I hit a pizza place up and had a nice lil conversation with some local fellow. Made it home safe afterwards and hit the wax pen which made the effects much more prominent. Thought about chilling out with a BZD but felt like I could make some good progress by facing the effects, and ended up being glad I did so.

It's crazy because the times that I was in the house over the past 2 days I felt so depressed and these substances didn't feel recreational at all. They felt like a chore I had to face. But when I got outside and saw how beautiful the world was they became recreational substances and I felt much happier than I otherwise would have.

Hopefully I won't have any more PCE reports going forward my New Year's resolution is to quit all substances other than psychs because I've been consuming far too many drugs over the past year and have become much stupider as a result. My motivation has become shit as well, but I think that's mostly the increased porn intake (my other resolution). Anyways, mostly I blame the former on the months of daily phenibut usage which I was using to deal with my stomach. But thankfully I'm at a somewhat better place with that and I've been able to eliminate the phenibut. But I had been using alcohol and weed way too much lately and they certainly don't do my brain any favors either.

Have you tried 3-meo-pce?
Never seen pcp or pce anywhere ive been.
But i did find some use with 3-meo-pce, esp mixed with ket it was quite something.

 

[ecstacylover]

Have you tried 3-meo-pce?

I used it a number of times back in 2017-18. Probably my favorite non-ketone ACH along with PCE, although I prefer PCE. They are similar visually, although 3-MeO-PCE I remember having more of an "oil painting" quality. PCE is visually gorgeous though, colors become much deeper and more dramatic.

3-MeO-PCE had a deeper headspace too, but it also made my muscles feel quite stiff so I disliked moving around on it. Although one of my best 3-MeO-PCE experiences was hiking up to an outcropping overlooking Boulder, Colorado and coloring with my friend, so you can still get around on it. PCE just feels much more transparent in the body than 3-MeO-PCE.

Oh yea, and 3-MeO-PCE always left me with insane amounts of motivation for a couple weeks afterward, which is something I never really got from any other dissociatives. It's one of the only ACH's with significant DAT affinity, so I imagine this DRI activity might be part of the reason.

Other changes that felt great this years: hitting the gym and going mostly carnivore. Totally gamechangers...

I made a lot of progress in the gym this year and my upper body lifts are at all time highs, that's the main reason I'm not thrilled about taking dissociatives for days in a row. Thankfully my weight hasn't really dipped, but that may be because I haven't been redosing.

Btw I took PCE for the 3rd day in a row today. Was feeling really good and decided to push onwards for one more day. I feel fairly charismatic and capable of emotion on it so it wouldn't be a bad social drug, which is in contrast to ketamine, which makes me want to hide inside my house. I will point out that my initial experience with PCE had a very blunting emotional effect (although that was in combination with phenibut). Clearly the effects of dissociatives on emotions are quite complex and depend on a number of factors.

 

[Bitchniggaz]

I used it a number of times back in 2017-18. Probably my favorite non-ketone ACH along with PCE, although I prefer PCE. They are similar visually, although 3-MeO-PCE I remember having more of an "oil painting" quality. PCE is visually gorgeous though, colors become much deeper and more dramatic.

3-MeO-PCE had a deeper headspace too, but it also made my muscles feel quite stiff so I disliked moving around on it. Although one of my best 3-MeO-PCE experiences was hiking up to an outcropping overlooking Boulder, Colorado and coloring with my friend, so you can still get around on it. PCE just feels much more transparent in the body than 3-MeO-PCE.

Oh yea, and 3-MeO-PCE always left me with insane amounts of motivation for a couple weeks afterward, which is something I never really got from any other dissociatives. It's one of the only ACH's with significant DAT affinity, so I imagine this DRI activity might be part of the reason.


I made a lot of progress in the gym this year and my upper body lifts are at all time highs, that's the main reason I'm not thrilled about taking dissociatives for days in a row. Thankfully my weight hasn't really dipped, but that may be because I haven't been redosing.

Btw I took PCE for the 3rd day in a row today. Was feeling really good and decided to push onwards for one more day. I feel fairly charismatic and capable of emotion on it so it wouldn't be a bad social drug, which is in contrast to ketamine, which makes me want to hide inside my house. I will point out that my initial experience with PCE had a very blunting emotional effect (although that was in combination with phenibut). Clearly the effects of dissociatives on emotions are quite complex and depend on a number of factors.

Not sourcing or anything, but im curious in what circles pce is even exists?

Because even pcp is this mythical thing here in Europe.
Ive never heard of anyone trying it except a friend who did it at some Russian psy festival.
From what ive heard its quite non existent except some cities in the US and Canada.

But pce is another level of niche, is it like chemistry students who make it for fun?
Or is there some kind of weird pce scene?

 

[ecstacylover]

Not sourcing or anything, but im curious in what circles pce is even exists?

Basically none. It's schedule I here in the US and it's UN schedule I as well.

Or is there some kind of weird pce scene?

I will say that I've had very little cognitive impairment for having used dissociatives 3 days in a row (used about 500mg K and 25-30mg PCE in that time). I actually feel quite sharp currently. If I had used phenibut even a couple days prior, my mind would be much cloudier. At first I thought this was a quality of the PCE, but now I'm thinking it might be that I've taken 1.5g/day Lion's Mane for about the past week. Thought about having more PCE today but it was rainy and I ended up going to the gym instead. Felt really, really good regardless so I'm glad I held off. Had a bit of weed just vibing listening to rain sounds.

Edit:

I see now that after my first experience with PCE I noticed some deficits with semantic object recognition along with some psychotic thought-patterns, which is something I generally observe after taking dissociatives. Dissociatives generally trash my working memory as well, especially if I'm mixing with weed. However, I've noticed like zero issues in those departments over the past few days. The only thing I noticed was a very brief OCD-like thought pattern earlier today, which is something dissociatives have always brought to the surface for me.

So now I'm thinking definitely it is the Lion's Mane, which is cool, because it didn't really interfere with any of the positive effects.

 

[Bitchniggaz]

Basically none. It's schedule I here in the US and it's UN schedule I as well.




I will say that I've had very little cognitive impairment for having used dissociatives 3 days in a row (used about 500mg K and 25-30mg PCE in that time). I actually feel quite sharp currently. If I had used phenibut even a couple days prior, my mind would be much cloudier. At first I thought this was a quality of the PCE, but now I'm thinking it might be that I've taken 1.5g/day Lion's Mane for about the past week. Thought about having more PCE today but it was rainy and I ended up going to the gym instead. Felt really, really good regardless so I'm glad I held off. Had a bit of weed just vibing listening to rain sounds.

Edit:

I see now that after my first experience with PCE I noticed some deficits with semantic object recognition along with some psychotic thought-patterns, which is something I generally observe after taking dissociatives. Dissociatives generally trash my working memory as well, especially if I'm mixing with weed. However, I've noticed like zero issues in those departments over the past few days. The only thing I noticed was a very brief OCD-like thought pattern earlier today, which is something dissociatives have always brought to the surface for me.

So now I'm thinking definitely it is the Lion's Mane, which is cool, because it didn't really interfere with any of the positive effects.

Yeah dissios really shred your memory and cognition in weird ways.
Esp on ket if i do high doses where i hole out.
But the same dose spread out over longer time doesnt give me as bad effects after.

So i dont think its purily the chemicals having side effects.
Its probably also related to the subjective effects.
Like doing 500mg spread out over 6h vs 2h etc.
Its the same total amount for my body to break down.
But if i aim for a deep hole i will be alot more sluggish for a few days compared to if i just spread out the dose a bit.

 

[ecstacylover]

Ended up using PCE 6 of the past 8 days. Bit of a pyramid set (3 days on, 1 off, 2 on, 1 off, 1 on). Sticking to 1 dose plugged (~8-10mg) per day, no desire to redose. One day I did use a higher dose (13mg) and it wasn't as enjoyable, as I started to enter the claymation/putty zone. At lower doses it's more stimulating, warm and colorful. higher doses it becomes darker, colder, more removed, and less cheerful.

Damn I like this stuff though. Although a few days ago I was on it at the beach along with I guess a good bit of THC and I lost my phone. Didn't have it backed up so I lost all my pictures and my BTC wallet. Looked everywhere for it but nothing. Normally this would have absolutely ruined my day and probably the rest of the week but as I was starting to get upset I was able to calm myself down and think positively. I feel like I was able to flip some master switch that assigns a negative bias to my internal assesment of basically any situation (whether that be the unknown outcome of some event, other people's intentions, etc). My mom used to be like this and while it might be a strategy to occupy some stable evolutionary niche, it's not at all enjoyable way to live. I've been so much happier, friendly, less judgmental, etc, ever since that happened.

I've been surprised how little cognitive impairment there has been on the off days and really even most of the on days. I actually feel like my brain has woken up, which after months on phenibut I felt pretty dumbed down. None of the psychiatric symptoms that dissociatives often give me, which is surprising to me especially considering that I've been using THC more than average. I think a big part of this is the Lion's Mane, which I can't say I know much about how it works, but it's something I want to look into now. Also have been taking 850mg NMN and 150-200mg caffeine each morning,

Pretty good duration on this stuff, as the effects don't really wane for the first 8 hours. Feels very comfortable in the system during that time, after which it develops a bit of a pressor effect, although I've been combatting this with 10-20mg propranolol. It definitely has an effect into the next day (actually the days I abstained were two of the best days I had the past week), but it's more stimulating, colorful, bright, and not really dissociating at all.

Doesn't seem to alter basal metabolic rate or fluid levels much, as I've been able to almost maintain my weight (down a couple pounds over the past week, but I haven't been eating as much either). A lot of dissociatives tend to throw off my body temperature and can also make me perspire, but I haven't really gotten those from the PCE either.

Best part is this stuff is super social. I feel like my interactions with strangers over the past week have been much more beneficial for me. I was able to say things I felt were original and they didn't feel like empty interactions. I'm pretty cool with my neighbor and we've hung out a couple times, but even talking to him I felt so much more connection and camaraderie. It's like I don't care what people think of me anymore (which is a big issue for me normally), but not in a superiority-type way either.

Overall the past week has been really good. I feel like I'm getting back to myself after I spent much of the past year trying to be someone that isn't true to me. I even made a really big change that's gonna keep me a lot busier going forward, and I'm really happy about that.

PCE you amazing lady