I tried this chemcial several days ago, you can see the full live trip report here -
also I just want to say my only disso experience is dxm and tiletamine, quite a number of trips on both.
First of all, I was incredibly stupid with this drug, essentially saying "these edibles ain't shit" with a completely unknown drug. I consumed around 90mg, followed by another 90mg 1.5 hours later and then the rest of the bag (250mg total) another 1.5 hours later. The effects were nice, I was able to go to the closed eye disso land although I didn't find it very visual at all but the feelings of my body travelling through space listening to OTT was magical as it always with with dissociatives. On the comeup I was very much aware of the smell of an old friends house and felt very nostalgic as well this cementing in my mind this was a dissociative, even tho the fairly intense yet still functional dissociation at that point should've been the bigger indicator. There was definately some subtle Euphoria as well which was nice. Something i've noticed with tiletamine is a buzzing sound from the distortion of background noise and i got that on this as well. I'll come back to that in a second.
I was fairly happy with the experience, made my reddit post about 5 hours post ingestion. i was especially a fan of no negative physical side effects. no nausea or restlessness or phsycical discomfort. I was thinking this is the next big drug with perfect effects. and it was nice until I felt that it had plataued around the 6 hour mark and vaped some HHC. within minutes the experience became VERY intense. I went from being just dissociated to feeling ass tho reality was falling off of it's hinges in ways i'd never expereienced. I've had tiletamine experiences where I've completely lost track of reality and dxm experiences where entities came down to give me divine knowledge. But this was something different. It felt as tho i was constantly having to avoid complex mental pitfalls, my mental state was very strange and i was scared, i think a reason was that I was having an intense experience on a drug with nothing known about it. My heart rate felt like it was going a million miles an hour. At one point it felt as tho one side of my body had gone limp and i'd had a stroke. Then a few minutes later i was convinced my finger had snapped completely. i was freaking out, but decided the embarassment of explaining that I was overdosing on a drug that, as far as i knew, only one other person had tasted to emergency services would be worse than dying so didn't call for help hoping it'd be over soon in one way or another.
I ended up binge watching american dad for a few hours to get my mind on something else and convinced myself that I could tell my brain nothing was bad to stop my immune system from killing me. I eventually calmed down and went to bed at around 3am (about 9 hours after the last dose) but I felt razy and couldn't sleep. I was lying in bed my brain feeling like an insane box of fireworks, thinking every possible thought. Throughout this whole thing i did feel pretty fine physically. This is when i started hearing whispers. the distortion of background noises was getting more and more intense. i tried sleeping without music but it felt like a cacophany of strange noises was bombarding my brain and I wanted it to stop so badly. I got up at half 6 (about 12 hours after last dose) and drank a cider but that just made the disortions I saw when I closed my eyes feel a little sluggish. This whole time every time I close my eyes i would feel as tho my mind was violently shaking. I got up at 8 and decided to just try and play video games. the whispering was very loud at this point, an undercurrent to everything but i found i could ignore it, although it was harder to ignore all the visual distortions out of the corner of my eye keepinng seeing inanimate objects jerking around eratically in my peripheral. My apetite was completely shot (this was sunday/monday it is now thursday, i have eaten very little and still have a very small apetite). Around 5pm (almost 24 hours after last dose) I would say I was sober. Still mentally shaken and sleep deprived with some visual distortions but the whispering had stopped completely. At about 11 I had a few ciders and passed out. i propbably would've slept longer than the uninterrupted 8 hours I got but had a tattoo appointment the next day so had to be up. (not sure how tha went so well considering the 2 days before it)
Something I really dislike about how dissociatives is how indescribible they are. In my current mental state (as in sober) i cannot actually know what the more intense parts feel like and accurately explain the sheer weirdness that they often provide. I love the experience, I'm mainly thinking about the first part of the report before vaping the hhc, that feeling of your body tumbling through the ether guided by amazing music. i'm sorry for the "structuring" of the report, i'm just trying to say everything i remember from the experience, but a lot of this isn't from memory but context. Describing what was goinf on mentally is impossible. i said in my live report that I felt like a pond at midnight. I remember that, I remember that feeling, or at least a shadow of that feeling. But i cannot explain it anymore than that. i'm sure people who've done high disso doses can relate.
I think there was a big mental aspect to this expereience, when were going bad, due to the fact that this is largest dose recorded of a drug with comnpletely unknown activity nothing was out of possibility. If I'd simpley taken too much of a psychedelic or edibles (as I have many times before) there would be a part of me that knows I'll be ok because many people have taken much more and been completeyl fine and I'm just really high. With this there was no "mental buffer" of that kind, in hindsight the whole thing was a stupid, reckless, self destructive act with no thought of self preservation. Me vaping HHC probably led to a panic attack (as i have experienced many times with hhc) and thus the very intense experience afterwards, although I don't know if I can attribute the pschosis like effects to that as I have had a similar experience with tiletamine, staying up all night on the drug and hearing whispers and having the world violently shake when I close my eyes. This drug definately has long legs, backed up by Personal_Industry (the only other uer who has reporte on this drug) saying how "taking enough to trip is enough to carve out your brain the next day and be incapable of normal conversation". I didn't speak to anyone throughtout the experience or the next day so cannot verify this. Although i was talking to myself a lot throughout the expereince. I'd be having a lot of deep thoughts and vocalise random half sentences from these thoughts which would've proabbly made me appear a mad man.
I think in the proper setting and lower and not mixing it, this could be a promising chemical. Notably it does not feel toxic. I haven't felt great following it but I don't belive that any of this is a direct result of the drug but as a result of barely eating combined with the sleep deprivation. I have a cold sore, so maybe that's evidence of a lowered immune system? but again that could be due to lack of nutrients. I'm not sure, it's all speculation. Someone with better self control can do the research.
but still fascinating. I guess thanks are owed for being a guinea pig as far as acute toxicity is concerned.