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The "smack" tab myth

Inso said:
Here in the UK, there are some pills with heroin in them, a friend of mine took some, and reported a small sort of heroin withdrawal the next day. It's rare, but not impossible.
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Did you not read the fucking thread before you posted. Yes, it's not impossible but it dosen't happen. End of. You're not going to get opiate withdrawl from one night of one off heroin anyway.

I'm sorry for being a dick and I appreciate that you're new here and don't havent had time to educate yourself on the subject yet.
 
Don Luigi said:
Did you not read the fucking thread before you posted. Yes, it's not impossible but it dosen't happen. End of. You're not going to get opiate withdrawl from one night of one off heroin anyway.

I'm sorry for being a dick and I appreciate that you're new here and don't havent had time to educate yourself on the subject yet.
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I only read the original post, where he says that it's impossible for heroin to be in any E pills. Then I just said what I'd heard, that there is heroin present in some pills around. Mate of mine said he'd had some pills with H in and described a very different high and a sort of craving the next day. Maybe it was something else don't know...sorry for just jumping in with a reply...
 
Tranced said:
I'd say the ketamine myth is just as abundant as the heroin one.
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What would be the effect of mixing small amounts of DXM in exstasy pills? Large amounts would be dangerous, but small amounts would cost next to nothing and potentiate MDMA while (alas) modifying the effect. In many countries (eg where I live) you still get DXM in pure form OTC. Have such pills been tested for DXM?
 
"Ecstasy" pills have been known to contain a laundry list of compounds, including ketamine, fentanyl, DXM, amphetamine, methamphetamine, and whatever the makers think will make a salable "feel good" pill.

I'm not a fan of this stuff myself, but if I was, I'd get me a test kit. Or, start pulling up sassafras seedlings.:)
 
Hoss said:
Isn't the bio-availability for heroin poor if taken orally anyways???

At any rate, the cost ratio in order for a manufacturer to produce E pills with H in them wouldn't make sense in my eyes.
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it all gets converted to morphine. bioavail basically 0%
 
Junglistvibe said:
K is active oral and I once had a site where they had tested many pills, I think it was either USA or Japan, and quite a big amount of the pills that had meth also had MDMA and ketamine in them.
I can't seem to find the site anymore though.
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The bioavailability of oral K is extremely low meaning that you need to take quite a bit orally to get any effect (or a desired effect anyway).

Here is the link to erowid:

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/ketamine/ketamine_dose.shtml
 
The same problems i face, Being a frequent X user, The most frequent in my school. Bad yes i know.


I hear so many people talk shit about what the stuff does to you, and what it contains. E.g. Rat poision, Heroin etc.

And it just annoys me, I mean i know what it does, and i know whats in it. Get's very frustrating.
 
Junglistvibe said:
It's all about the synergy, eh :)
Most people wouldn't feel 50mg of caffeine.. In combination with MDMA it can really give a boost to the trip.
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I understand that there is synergy between mdma and k. I guess it's going to be dependent on how many milligrams of K are put into the pill.
 
Rat poison?

Man, that one's so old, that last time somebody repeated it with a straight face to me, I nearly fell off my dinosaur...

Time was, they used strychnine for rat poison. They haven't for decades. Now, they use something called warfarin, which inhibits clotting. No psychoactive properties at all. They use it because, in case some kid eats it, they just give massive doses of Vitamin K, and the effect is neutralized.
 
I get pissed too when people insist they're eating "heroin pills". I used to try to tell them it's most likely ketamine, but I don't care anymore let them be ignorant. Heroin HAS been found in ecstacy pills people, so don't think they never have heroin, it's unlikely, NOT impossible.
 
Ahem... may I direct the attention of da Hatazzz to this link:

http://www.ecstasydata.org/viewtablet.php?ID=1139

I realize it is rare as fuck as one might say, but still the possibility remains. I find MDMA to be like rolling (literally) in a gravity less ocean of velvet and compassion. I've eaten pills that've made, I said made me dance and others that've been more on the order of what MDMA pre-1986 was described like. I think PFF hit the pill on the bevel when it wrote about pills containing an upper. Much more common, but still we must retain our objectivism AND empiricism, no?
 
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