So your assault v. rape criteria requires other people present to hold her down and locked doors/physical barriers? What kind of Amazonian tribe do you live in?
If these women are grown adults with their own volition, not under the influence of alcohol or drugs, and there's no barrier to them actually getting up and walking away then all I'm saying is I find it hard to believe they were raped. How exactly do you 'coerce' a fully grown adult into being raped when they can remove themselves from the situation if they sense it's going in a negative direction. They're not minors that are susceptible to manipulation, we're talking about adults.. so, what's stopping them from leaving? That's all I'm saying.
spacejunk said:
People automatically doubting rape claims is exactly the reason stuff like this is able to happen.
So what if this happened in an industry notorious for sexual exploitation?
If anything that should make the claims more believable, not less so.
I doubt rape claims because I'm a cynical bastard, I trust no one and doubt everything. Just because it's women and the subject of rape doesn't mean they automatically get a free pass. People lie for their own benefit or twist the truth, this is no exception - and when there's a lot of money involved there's even more reason to doubt (both ways I might add.. thus we need evidence). It doesn't help that women have begun to utilize the accusation of rape and sexual assault charges more in recent times, or at least more are getting caught out and convicted for it.
Assuming there was no physical barrier to leaving, stuff like this happens because the individuals don't value themselves enough in the first place and/or get frozen into inaction because of the potential prospects (in this case, a lot of money through acting).. if they did value themselves they would have gotten up and left at the first sign of trouble. They're adults, they're not stupid.
spacejunk said:
Contributing to the culture of shaming and ostracising sexual assault victims isn't edgy or funny - it's creepy.
Until all the facts are in I reserve the right to make light of the situation and criticize freely. I'm not doubting the guy is probably a sleezeball who's abused his position of power.. it's Hollywood, he's a wealthy powerful man, it's not that unlikely really. On the same token and in light of that context you can't automatically give women a free pass on this. When there's smoke there is usually fire for sure, but until evidence is in again there is nothing wrong with doubting.
My doubting and cynicism might annoy you, but it didn't cause this stuff to happen and it doesn't contribute to it happening either.