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The Psychoactive Substances Act - Update: Illegals R Us

Another concern I have is the possibility that traditional dealers may stock up on current legals when the sales start so they can cut their product with them. It's one thing taking unresearched substances knowingly, but I don't want to buy weed and end up with it half full of AB-FUCMENACKERS...
 
Another concern I have is the possibility that traditional dealers may stock up on current legals when the sales start so they can cut their product with them. It's one thing taking unresearched substances knowingly, but I don't want to buy weed and end up with it half full of AB-FUCMENACKERS...

My thoughts exactly. Whatever crap stims are leftover are bound to end up in the £50 grams of joke-aine that all the chavies rail every night in the pub. Whoever thinks this is going to have a positive impact on anything, especially the current purity of controlled drugs needs their head examining.
 
I would be stocking up on your 3FPM FUBAR cause i dont reckon it will continue to be available after the ban. I could be wrong but i dont think it sounds like it is well established enough and have wide ranging demand for it to be a feature of the black market.
 
I would be stocking up on your 3FPM FUBAR cause i dont reckon it will continue to be available after the ban. I could be wrong but i dont think it sounds like it is well established enough and have wide ranging demand for it to be a feature of the black market.

Mate, its neigh on impossible to stock up on 3fpm without just caning the lot asap. Just gonna have to bite the bullet...
 
I would be stocking up on your 3FPM FUBAR cause i dont reckon it will continue to be available after the ban. I could be wrong but i dont think it sounds like it is well established enough and have wide ranging demand for it to be a feature of the black market.

It wont be. When the Misuse of Drugs Act was brought into force, it banned both amphetamine and Phenmetrazine (3-fpm's parent compound), both popular stimulants at the time. As phenmetrazine was seen as a less potent, short acting version of amphetamine (it was popular as a 'smart' drug among students who used to use functional doses for studt purposes) there was no black market for it following its ban, as the black market for amphetamine filled the niche for this kind of drug. As such I can't see there being a being a BM for 3-fpm as it remains a niche drug, used only by drug enthusiasts who are clued up about what they are taking (which are in the minority)
 
Another concern I have is the possibility that traditional dealers may stock up on current legals when the sales start so they can cut their product with them. It's one thing taking unresearched substances knowingly, but I don't want to buy weed and end up with it half full of AB-FUCMENACKERS...

Remember when mephedrone was legal loads of people were cutting K with it, and some other cathinone with benzocaine as "coke".
 
Remember when mephedrone was legal loads of people were cutting K with it, and some other cathinone with benzocaine as "coke".

EPD got sold as Coke too, as well as flooding the NW as "Magic"...

4F-MPD is a terrifying possibility, especially given it's like 20p/dose right now. Some cunts gonna have a heart attack racking up lines with it...
 
Bring on the meth! May as well do things properly :)

At least it's known how to make meth properly, I don't think anyone's figured out how to make consistent good quality 3fpm yet - though they're getting there slowly...

I couldn't think of anything worse, imagine what it would do to ex-industril cities, n towns up north. or any major city, London, manchester, birmingham.
we got enough people hooked on crack, H, and now spice.. SPICE, i mean what the fuck even is it (Synth Cannabinoid).. shows you that brits don't wanna know, or care what they take as long as they do it. As much as i have enjoyed meth abroad, i wouldnt want to see it being dealt on my street
 
I don't think it's a good idea, prohibition has never proven to work, and what i've learned recently is that many of the poeple behind the labs creating these RC's
areto find more effective, less harmful, and less addictive chemicals whether for recreational, or medicinal purposes. Like how in New Zealand, which had a huge meth problem affecting all people of all ages and classes as the cocaine boat never stopped there, a chemist started working on safe alternatives. He invented methylone, and also another drug i can't remember, but also substituted meth. He then pitched his intentions to the government, and they agreed to legalize it, manufactur it, and brand it to sell in clubs and other places. And to no surprise NZ's meth crisis diminished rather quickly.
Another one is the Benzo pyrazolam. it has little to no recreational purposes, and has supposedly 12X the anxiolytic characteristcs as Diazepam, and a very long half-life.
also unlike all other benzo's it does not appear to undergo metabolism. this should so replace so many addictive, and abusable benzo's handed out like candy, and killing people in America. But obv. pharma companies won't let that happen as long as they keep filling politicians pockets!

But no one can deny that there's a lot of very messed up chemicals out there, which have no place to be so easily accessible online that even kids can order a bag of mystery, and wake up in hospital after.
 
I don't think it's a good idea, prohibition has never proven to work, and what i've learned recently is that many of the poeple behind the labs creating these RC's
areto find more effective, less harmful, and less addictive chemicals whether for recreational, or medicinal purposes. Like how in New Zealand, which had a huge meth problem affecting all people of all ages and classes as the cocaine boat never stopped there, a chemist started working on safe alternatives. He invented methylone, and also another drug i can't remember, but also substituted meth. He then pitched his intentions to the government, and they agreed to legalize it, manufactur it, and brand it to sell in clubs and other places. And to no surprise NZ's meth crisis diminished rather quickly.
Another one is the Benzo pyrazolam. it has little to no recreational purposes, and has supposedly 12X the anxiolytic characteristcs as Diazepam, and a very long half-life.
also unlike all other benzo's it does not appear to undergo metabolism. this should so replace so many addictive, and abusable benzo's handed out like candy, and killing people in America. But obv. pharma companies won't let that happen as long as they keep filling politicians pockets!

But no one can deny that there's a lot of very messed up chemicals out there, which have no place to be so easily accessible online that even kids can order a bag of mystery, and wake up in hospital after.

Wasn't the NZ situation you're referring to BZP, not methylone? Methylone was one of Shulgin's iirc. The guy who created the BZP market in NZ did so after seeing his friend disembowel himself with a samurai sword in the grip of meth psychosis. However, BZP is not exactly safe either...
 
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