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the pain never ends. please help

duneplanet

duneplanet

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first of all im withdrawing from benzos. im down to 3 mg valium and it is really hitting me. even though im on 225 mg lyrica. someone told me that i wont be able to recover from benzo withdrawal cause of lyrica. this really upset me cause i thought since lyrica was gaba-b that i could heal and then slowly taper the lyrica. Also, would phenibut once a week hurt? cause i can't take much more. my life has been hell. I'm 20 now but my body is probably that of an 80 year old since ive been in constant stress since day 1. I used to use a lot of psychedelics and have hppd. Ive never had many or any friends until 2010, and then i fucked it all up by getting addicted to benzos. i FINALLY have a girlfriend but im scared shes gonna leave me cause shes cold to me now. she used to love me so much and now shes so cold and unloving. doesnt care to say goodbye when i leave. I love her so much. if i lost her id just lose it. im sure you people can relate while withdrawing from benzos// From here my life doesnt sound so bad, but trust me it has been. My head is so fucked up i can teven explain it. Someone help me. Even just someone to tal;k to thats gone through hell like me. I wanna be connected with people who understand. is there anybody out there?

and seriously can i heal while on lyrica?
 
I have no experience with benzo withdrawal, Lyrica, etc. Perhaps it would be best to talk to your doctor as soon as possible.

I'm sure some Bluelighters with benzo experience will chime in soon and offer you some ideas.

In the mean time please take good care of yourself, try not to think too far ahead, stay in the moment, and treat yourself as gently as you possibly can.

You'll get through this challenging time. Hang in there friend!
 
I dunno if this helps cause I'm not too experienced with benzos but at the rehab I went to they gave people there for xanax phenobarbitol for the first like 5 days to ease them thru withdrawal. also there was one kid who I think lied about using opiates too and was on subs and he seemed to be doing pretty okay (albeit nearly knocked out) the whole time except for some anger issues about a week or so in. I dunno if this helps at all but I hope everything works out for u. :)
 
ur not alone here by any means..... im having to come off xanax right now and due to the ammount i have left and its short halflife, i fight and fight to just hold off another few mins etc but its fucking hell....
my doc gave me this anti psyc, thats helped fuck me up more in only a few days of takin it, i just threw that shit in the bin .... the lyrica should help with anxiety but yer the benzos r just a fucking nightmare to kick. im hopeing that i can taper with klopin and from what ive heard, id love to be given lyrica after that as ive heard good things about it and anxiety... anyways thats irrelivent to wyh i posted in this thread... ur not alone feel free to PM me if u eva wanna, not like id b a great help being currently addicted to xanax, but i came off them once before and know how fucked it is as many others here would also.
by the sounds ur almost there but 3mg right? hang in there hey things do get better, it just seems that right now they wont:\
 
it sucks doesn't it? i am in your same situation except i am already off benzos for a year. the withdrawal is still going strong though and every day i worry it's not going to go away and i will have to either kill myself or go back on benzos (which is just a slower suicide).
 
You will need to slowly taper if you're serious about quitting xanax. 3 mg is
what you're down to? Ok - for the next four or five days take 2 mg and space
it out during the day. After that, try getting by on 1.5 mg a day and see how
you feel. If you can't get by doing a taper then get with your doctor and I'm
hopeful that he will help you out. Benzo withdrawal is so hard, not just on
your body but emotionally. My sister had to suddenly get off xanax and she
was so very ill from it, vomiting for several days and couldn't function at all.
I really think it's best for you to see your doctor, or check yourself in at the
hospital. Forget about the girlfriend, if she doesn't understand you then you
can take that as an indication that she's not the right one. ~Theresa
 
nvan7891 said:
I dunno if this helps cause I'm not too experienced with benzos but at the rehab I went to they gave people there for xanax phenobarbitol for the first like 5 days to ease them thru withdrawal. also there was one kid who I think lied about using opiates too and was on subs and he seemed to be doing pretty okay (albeit nearly knocked out) the whole time except for some anger issues about a week or so in. I dunno if this helps at all but I hope everything works out for u. :)
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I rarely say this but please, don't fucking abuse the substance I marked in bold. Lol...
 
This post was real detailed 8). If you're detoxing on your own you need to wise up and go to a hospital. If your girlfriends being a cold ass douche then leave her. If shes upset you've been taking medicine that you're prescribed fuck her(sorry mods but anyone whos on medicine and gets shit from their gf for a doctors script is not worth your time been there and dealt with that). If you have been doing this on you own without a prescription and it hasn't been that long it wont be real bad. It will be nothing compared to several years of using. I can feel when I'm in w/d and I get sick. It's not fun. Hospital. Hospital. and Hospital.


and that lyrica thing...seriously?

NO.
 
T. Calderone said:
You will need to slowly taper if you're serious about quitting xanax. 3 mg is
what you're down to? Ok - for the next four or five days take 2 mg and space
it out during the day. After that, try getting by on 1.5 mg a day and see how
you feel. If you can't get by doing a taper then get with your doctor and I'm
hopeful that he will help you out. Benzo withdrawal is so hard, not just on
your body but emotionally. My sister had to suddenly get off xanax and she
was so very ill from it, vomiting for several days and couldn't function at all.
I really think it's best for you to see your doctor, or check yourself in at the
hospital. Forget about the girlfriend, if she doesn't understand you then you
can take that as an indication that she's not the right one. ~Theresa
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sorry i may have caused confusion here it is Valuim that OP is weaning off not xanax,,, thats me my bad was just kinda compareing situations with mine, And Lyrica id kill to have that for anxiety any day above benzos, where u put on lyrica for a while or just towards the end of ur taper OP?
<3 hope ur dion ok today:\
 
thank you all so much. one question. Is 3 mg a very low dose? can i expect the pain to increase much by going from 3 to 2? Or am I getting a taste of how bad it is gonna be already cause im on a very low dose? I ask because they must make 2 mg pills for a reason. they must do something for someone
 
duneplanet... imo 3 mg of valium is a babys dose, the 2 mg pills will i assume be next for you, also youre on lyrica that is a world of blessing ud probably be feeling much worse right now without that. hang in there bro, it seems to me that ur just about there, i can say nothing more than shit gets better over time
il b folowing this thread to c hows ur going.from what uv said ur hurting but ur nearly there..so stay tough, we r all here 4u<3
 
ty so much. right now contemplating whether to take relax all with phenibut. it has valerian, jujube, magnolia bark, l theanine and phenibut. magnolia worries me cause i read it works on gaba a. it couldnt hurt like alcohol would could it?
 
^^^ I am on 4mgs of valium myself, after tapering down from 3mgs of xanax daily for almost 5 yrs. I am not on any other drugs, and can sometime do with 2mgs of valium a day. Buy some melatonin to help you sleep. Also, exercise a lot. I was prescribed the xanax, so had only gone over 24hrs without it maybe 2x in the 5ys I was on it. Since being switched to the valium, I usually dose every 26 hrs.

What was your usage like before? I know that my 3mgs of xanax was not that high of a dose, but the length of time that I was on it is what makes it worse. My valium taper has been fine so far, lowering by 2mgs every 3weeks to a month.
 
guys my life got a lot worse.. I think my gf is leaving me, and the reason was because I was too worried about her. SOmething happened that I thought was dangerous and I tried to protect her and im withdrawing so I was intense about it and now I think shes leaving me... not something you want to happen while you are withdrawing from benzos. Ive wanted to be loved for so long... I wanna cuddle with her again. I don't know how I keep going. And i still fake a smile.
 
Benzos fuct me up so bad. I have close to 2 years off klonopin/ativan [minus the 2 months when I started to take them again] and it was a nightmare. My advice would be to bite the bullet and hop off now and jump start your recovery because it is a long process. I still get shaky and sweaty [<-- hate that shit] but that is about it sometimes I wonder if that is from benzos or opiates. I guess it doesnt matter.

How long have you been taking them daily? If your 20 I would hazard a guess of a couple years. As for the Lyrica increasing the w/d's or something, I took Neurontin [same thing pretty much] for 6 months to help ease some of the w/d's. It might have helped a little bit but I think that was just a mental suggestion from swallowing pills. After awhile I noticed it definitely increased my jitters/shakes and stopped taking it. Ive have used phenobarbital syrup in the past for benzo w/d and had MUCH better relief from the symptoms but I only stayed on it for a week or two.

peace.
seedless
 
Lyrica should not be mixed with any sort of Benzo as the two together double your anxiety as well as your risks of fits. It is also affecting the neurotransmitters in your brain that are probably adding to the depression and slightly delusional thoughts regarding your girlfriend [please, I do not mean that offfensively. It is just how the brain works]
Everytime I went into rehab they would always try to tale me off Benzos AND Opiates with no positive result because a benzo detox is much more harsh mentally as it is a psychotropic drug as opossed to opiate or opiod. So you get the physical harshness and the mental strain.
*this is my experience. Others may differ* Being a clinical psychologist helps since I usually got my benzos back :-p
3mg is quite a low dose and why you are feeling it so heavily. As mentioned in an above post, taper off slowly and do so in three day intervals allowing yourself a bit of comfort rather than beating them out of you. It is natural as an addict to chase the original sedation you once felt making it even more difficult and the added use of psychedellic drugs depending on LT damage may draw your detox out further.
Another suggestion given was to go into hospital which may not be a bad idea, but I would suggest you say you are on a bit higher of a dose than 3mg since they do not detox for much less than that. I agree that may not be sound advice, but at least you will be comfortable and in a controlled enviroment.
Sod your G/F and worry about yourself. You are far too young to end up like some of us dinosuars on here in and out of rehab your whole life.
I do wish you well and hope that I or anyone else on this board has been of assistance.
MR
 
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