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The Pain Management Mega Thread v2.0

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@ Closeau, I'm real sorry for your pain, I can only imagine, but as a chronic pain sufferer myself, I know what you're going through.. the frustration is probably the worst too! Not having anything that works!

So, when the Ocycontin stopped working for me after my surgery, I needed something stronger. They gave me Dilaudid which was for breakthrough pain, but that's all I had. I wasn't using anything ER for a while. The Dilaudid really helps with the breakthrough pain. I know your Doc is reluctant to give you drugs for breakthrough, but it might work instead of the MS Contin and Oxycodone like it did for me. I went off Oxy for a year or so, and now I am back on the OC and the Dilaudid for breakthrough (long story). But there was a time where the Dilauded was enough and I didn't need the long acting OC.

Maybe you could just ask him about it?
 
Hey guys, I'm new here and was hoping for some answers / advice!

I got in a very bad auto wreck back in 09 and I broke my left femur in 3 places. Now I've got a rod, and 6 screws in my leg and after 2+ years the middle of my bone still hasn't grown back together, it's about 1.5cm from touching either side of the rod!

My pain management doctor I was going to for 6 months had me on the Oxycodone 5mg IR (Fast 5's) and I had to eat about 059834092834 of them to take the pain away period. Now the Doc I'm seeing is prescribing me the pink Oxycodone 10mg. He prescribed me these on 1/6/12 and as it gets farther through the month, and the colder it gets the more it seems as if its just not giving me that extra "umph" it did to take the pain away. I'm very curious about asking him to up the dosage for me, but I'm also scared to as 2/6/12 will only have been the second time he has seen me. When I first got in the wreck I was getting 120x Roxicodone 15mg's every 2 weeks, and those I have to say are the best thing I've ever ran into besides the Oxycodone 20mg & the 30mg pills. My question to you guys is: What would you say/do to somehow get the mg's bumped up even on the second visit? Now realize I'm 21 years old, and sometimes that may seem suspicious to a Doc as it did my old pain management doctor, but yet I got shafted at that place and stuck with 120x Oxycodone 5mg and a girl I went to school with who was 19 at the time was getting 240x Roxicodone 30's AND 90 Opana 30s...

I'm just not quite sure what to do here, I want to be in as little of pain as possible but at the same time I do not want him to think I'm just going to be a "junkie" - Somebody, PLEASEEEEEEE help and give me some good valuable information / assistance! Thanks, Ronnie!
 
Advice appreciated

Thanks for this thread. I've read the entire thing and feel some comfort just knowing that other people have similiar issues. In fact my pain does not seem as serious as many people in this thread who appear to be coping better. I wonder if anyone has any useful advice.

I'm a 25 year old who for the last 4 years has suffered from chronic gut pain. It varies in intensity but when it's bad it feels like there are dozens of hot knives pressing on my diaphragm while someone is melting led in my stomach, pummelling my abdomen and grabbing a fistful of bladder to pull and twist. Fortunately, it doesn't get this bad all that often, and mostly it's the chronic nature of the condition that I find hardest to deal with, rather than the physical pain at that specific time.

I've had every physical investigation possible (including some pretty cool ones - my favourite was when I had to swallow a pill with a camera in it). They haven’t found a physical explanation for the pain so at this point it’s probably fair to say I expect the issue to continue indefinitely.

I have a pain management doctor, who has tried pretty much every random thing he can think of: antacids, anti-inflammatories, antispasmodics, SSRIs, SNRIs, tricyclics, Pregabalin, various other things. I’ve also tried some pretty creative treatments through him, including bio-feedback and acupuncture.

None of the above provide effective pain relief, and some of them increase the pain.

I have also been prescribed Dihydrocodeine and Tramadol for the last 3 years.

The codeine became a bit of a problem. The pain is chronic so I found it very difficult to ever have a reason not to take codeine, even though all it did was take the edge off. As no doubt people reading this are aware, when you spend your life feeling like someone has put a hook in your gut, twisted it and started pulling, thoughts of potential tolerance and dependence seem less tangible than moment to moment living.

But tolerance and dependence apparently still exist. I was supposed to take 60mg of codeine when needed, but found myself taking 250mg at around 7pm every night. My days became a bit of a codeine roller-coaster – I’d start to get a headache around 3pm, be biting people’s heads off by 5pm and really itching for my meds by the time I took them. I was obviously taking more than the doctor prescribed me so I found myself doing ridiculous things, lying to friends about why I couldn’t see them and travelling all over town on my own trying to find pharmacies which would sell me a bottle of codeine linctus.

I was taking Tramadol throughout this time but it never became problematic: it messes with my emotions too much for me to want to take it frequently.

Anyway, the height of the codeine thing was around March last year. I tapered down incredibly slowly (I was reluctant to stop) and stopped taking it completely in December. Obviously the pain is still there and since December things have been quite difficult. I’ve slept fitfully and sometimes not at all, had to cancel nights out and even a trip away because I just haven’t been well enough to do much except lounge around the house. Having said this, I have had 2 or 3 good nights out. The problem is that the pain varies in intensity and when it’s bad, there’s little I can do.

I’ve been taking Tramadol occasionally after it gets really bad – but it stops me sleeping at night, and if I take it in the day there’s no way I can go to work, and I hate taking sick days, even though if I go in at my worst I might as well not be there. I’m starting a new job next week and I’m concerned about this as I need to make a good impression.

I’ve also been taking diazepam and particularly zopiclone occasionally to improve sleep – basically if I get some sleep, I can deal with the pain in the day most of the time, although it still makes me feel like shit. But with each of these, there has been quite rapid dose inflation, and I’m reluctant to go down the same road as I did with codeine. Definitely not a long term solution.

I’m basically done with the codeine now – it doesn’t actually decrease the pain a great deal and seems to cause more problems than it solves. I hate the daily codeine rollercoaster and never want to go back there. I think I’ll occasionally take it when I recreationally take tryptamines, as they give me an intense awareness of body pain and it seems to help with this and make the experience pleasant rather than painful. But this will be like once a month.

The pain management doctor thankfully doesn’t know I’ve had any issues with codeine. He offered me stronger opiates a few months ago but I said no. If I have problems with codeine and the pain is chronic, I can’t imagine that other opiates will be a good idea.

In the last month, I’ve taken up mindful meditation. I don’t know if it’s working yet – I guess it takes a while.

At the moment, I don’t think I can live with just Tramadol because while it provides effective pain relief, I can’t practically take it very often. A couple of times since coming off codeine I’ve found myself extracting morphine from several bottles of Kaolin & Morphine mixture to decrease the pain and get some sleep. I don’t think this is a good solution.

I suspect that – if the meditation doesn’t help me manage the situation better – I need to go back to my pain management doctor and explain some of this. I’m reluctant to go near issues of dependence, given that thankfully at the moment I am not physically dependent on anything (a real relief to be able to say this), and responses in this thread confirm my suspicion it would make accessing legitimate pain relief much harder.

I suppose I ought to ask the doctor for an alternative to codeine or Tramadol that I can actually take. But if I won’t take Tramadol in the morning because it clouds my judgment at work, are there likely to be any feasible opioid alternatives out there? I saw someone mention time-release MS Contin – would this be a good solution? Even if it were, am I not likely to suffer from the same issues of tolerance and dependence as I did with codeine?

Any advice appreciated. I’m in the UK, if it makes a difference.

P.S. I hope this doesn’t seem melodramatic. I know others have more serious pain issues and are dependent on stronger opiates and for many my complaining about codeine dependence will seem ridiculous. But for me it has been and remains a big deal. Also, sorry if this is too long. Don’t really get to talk about these issues very often.
 
Thanks VaderisBaddAss. I appreciate the reply. Yup, Dilaudid works great for my pain when Im in the ER grtting it thru IV. Its the only medicine that takes away most of my pain but, the ER is reluctant to administer large dose if Dilaudid. Usually give me morphine which dosent help as much. I will ask my Dr about the Dilaudid for my pain. What mg dosage do they have in pill form. Ill investigate. Thanks again!!
 
I am on Opana ER 30mgs 2 x's a day until around the 20th and then I will have an Rx for Opana ER 20 3 times a day. I was making up a taper plan today, but I will have to break the pills in halves and quarters in order to keep weaning my daily dosage down. I am hoping to get completely off them by the end of Feb. I feel like if I do see a pain management doc in the new state I am moving to in a couple weeks, I do not want to be on anything stronger than percocet to take as needed. Man, getting off this stuff is hard. I do not get high off them, and get little pain relief, but when my body goes longer then 8-10 hours without it, I can feel it, especially in the mornings. How would you suggest I taper from Opana ER's 20mg 3 x's a day?? Oh, and thank for helping me!!!!!
Rose

You could try cutting down 5mg every 3-5 days, then after a few weeks you could switch to something weaker, like low dose tramadol or hydrocodone for a few days before stopping entirely.
Have a read of these threads - http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/482413-Tapering-Plan-Mega-thread-community-project
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/562628-The-OD-Opioid-Withdrawal-Megathread-and-FAQ

I would really recommend loperamide - it will ease a lot of the withdrawal symptoms, start at 4-6mg and work your way up.
Also hot showers or baths are amazing, relaxing activities, thinking about how much better you will feel off the opiates, something to help you sleep, and maybe some sort of benzo for any really rough days. PM me if you have any more questions/whatever :-)
 
Thanks VaderisBaddAss. I appreciate the reply. Yup, Dilaudid works great for my pain when Im in the ER grtting it thru IV. Its the only medicine that takes away most of my pain but, the ER is reluctant to administer large dose if Dilaudid. Usually give me morphine which dosent help as much. I will ask my Dr about the Dilaudid for my pain. What mg dosage do they have in pill form. Ill investigate. Thanks again!!

Yea, IME, morphine does nothing compared to Dilaudid IV. I think, not 100%, but I've seen 2, 4 and 8 mg pill form Dilaudid's. Highest I've heard of is 8. I was rXd 4mg p/4hs 6x p/d. But I usually take two twice a day, after taking the OC first thing in the am. It seems to be working for me.

In the ER, they give me anywhere b/w .5mg and 2mg IV Dilaudid, depending on the severity. But lately they've only been doing up to 1mg and won't go over. But I get it like every 3-4 hrs. Some people can go 6-8 hrs with it. It depends on your tolerance. I've also been on it a while do my tolerance is really high. But they said they prescribed the 4mg and it's the equivalent to the 1mg p/4hrs.

IV definitely is faster acting, the pill may take a little longer to kick in, but it might last longer. I can't really suggest what to try, you could ask your Doc about that, but the pills work for me! I've been crushing them recently, and that makes them kick in faster when my pains real bad.

Good luck! Let me know how you make out!
 
Thanks VIBA!! I completely agree with you. They used to give me 2-4mg of IV Dilaudid evrytime I went to ER. Now, they treat me totally different. Might give me a perc or something. I have plenty of evidence that proves I am in pain. I guess theyve seen me so much in the past 2 years Im seeking or something. Gonna have to cross my fingers for 3 more weeks. Thats the quickest i can get into my pain dr. Just gonna have to stick with the methadone (which is working ok i guess.) Ill let ya know whats up. Thanks!
 
If the methadone is working, it's a good way to go from the IV Dilaudid to the oral Dilaudid, that's how I did it! It worked. Take the methadone, try it for a few days, I believe it takes a while to start working effectively, you may need 3 or 4 doses before you start feeling effects, but you can stay on the methadone and try to use it to go off the IV Dilaudid completely, or you can use them then switch to the oral Dillies, which is what I did.

I was on IV Dilaudid, went to methadone, then to oral Dilaudid.. And that's why I was just on the Dilaudid for a while. Then I saw the pain dr, he took me off the methadone and put me on just the Dillie's. (i was still having legit pain at this time and really wasnt trying to taper off the meds because i still needed them) So then he decided I should have something for long term pain management along with the Dillie's, when I told him they weren't lasting long enough, and that's why I'm also on 30mg of OC 2x p/d. This seems to be working (as I already mentioned).

I kinda typed that a little back and forth, so if you don't understand PM me and I'll be more than happy to explain the whole thing from the beginning for you, no problem!

Good luck! And definitely let me know how you make out :)
-V :)
 
Thanks for this thread. I've read the entire thing and feel some comfort just knowing that other people have similiar issues. In fact my pain does not seem as serious as many people in this thread who appear to be coping better. I wonder if anyone has any useful advice.

I'm a 25 year old who for the last 4 years has suffered from chronic gut pain. It varies in intensity but when it's bad it feels like there are dozens of hot knives pressing on my diaphragm while someone is melting led in my stomach, p

Congrats on getting off the codeine!!! Yay.
I would just explain to your pain doc your med issues (although probably leaving out your past dependency!) and see what he suggests.
MS Contin could be an option, although with daily use there will still be tolerance/physical dependence. (its morphine)
Theres also slow release DHC or tramadol if its available in the UK. Have you tried taking the tramadol on a full stomach? That could help.
Are you using the zopiclone and diazepam daily? Because that will cause the same dependency as you experienced with opiates. I find they work
much better just taken as needed.

I probably missed some of your questions you long poster you. Let me know.
 
Thanks a lot for the response, brighton. I don't find taking Tramadol on a full stomach helps hugely - it just takes longer to come on but still has quite a strong effect. The doctor suggested I take a lower dosage (currently usually take 100mg or 150mg) which frankly really irritated me as I take what I need in order for it to have an analgesic effect - don't know why he has to prescribe me a painkiller which is also an SNRI (although don't get me wrong, I'm thankful there is something which actually can get rid of the pain).

On the zopiclone/diazepam, I'm probably taking them 2-3 times a week at the moment - when I'm in the most pain, or really need a good night's sleep. It's just I'm really conscious of how frequency eventually creeps up. With codeine it was "when needed", which was at first once and then 2-3 times a week, then after about 18 months it was like, "as long as there's one day a week I don't take it that proves I'm not addicted". A couple of months later it got to that one day and I was in a lot of pain and had a huge amount to do at work the next day and couldn't really face the idea of not sleeping, so I took it that night (couldn't sleep anyway, ha). After that I decided I probably was dependent and was reluctant to withdraw, but as tolerance crept up so did dosage and then BAM you're drinking half a bottle of cough syrup just to make the headache go away - a familiar story, I'm sure. So yeah I'm not convinced that zopiclone or diazepam are likely to be long term solutions.

I didn't know there were other slow release opiates/opioids. I will ask the doctor next time I see him. Still slightly worried about tolerance and dependence but I suppose that is the inevitable issue with chronic pain and "as needed" painkillers. Still much rather have the pills than not - suppose I will just need to find a way of ensuring I don't take them too often. Hmmm...
 
Taking tramadol in lower doses, more steadily, throughout the day works much better for analgesic pain management in my experience. I recently was able to get Rx'd Tramadol (I'm 22 and openly admit that I smoke marijuana, but I don't smoke cigarettes ever, and only rarely drink alcohol), and even this has been a hassle. Regarding the Tram though - from my reading, the liver will better metabolize the Tramadol to o-desmethyl-tramadol (I believe it is) if you take 50mg 4x (or whatever your interval needs to be), rather than 100mg 2x. Taking larger doses of Tramadol gives me more of the anti-depressant (SNRI) sub-profile than it does for actually relieving my pain.

I have constant back and shoulder pain resulting from several cases of lyme disease and generally quite poor joints and such (as well as stressing activities as a younger-youth).

My best wishes and condolences to all that have to deal with being in miserable pain all day long for no need. <3
 
Thanks a lot for the response, brighton. I don't find taking Tramadol on a full stomach helps hugely - it just takes longer to come on but still has quite a strong effect. The doctor suggested I take a lower dosage (currently usually take 100mg or 150mg) which frankly really irritated me as I take what I need in order for it to have an analgesic effect - don't know why he has to prescribe me a painkiller which is also an SNRI (although don't get me wrong, I'm thankful there is something which actually can get rid of the pain).

On the zopiclone/diazepam, I'm probably taking them 2-3 times a week at the moment - when I'm in the most pain, or really need a good night's sleep. It's just I'm really conscious of how frequency eventually creeps up. With codeine it was "when needed", which was at first once and then 2-3 times a week, then after about 18 months it was like, "as long as there's one day a week I don't take it that proves I'm not addicted". A couple of months later it got to that one day and I was in a lot of pain and had a huge amount to do at work the next day and couldn't really face the idea of not sleeping, so I took it that night (couldn't sleep anyway, ha). After that I decided I probably was dependent and was reluctant to withdraw, but as tolerance crept up so did dosage and then BAM you're drinking half a bottle of cough syrup just to make the headache go away - a familiar story, I'm sure. So yeah I'm not convinced that zopiclone or diazepam are likely to be long term solutions.

I didn't know there were other slow release opiates/opioids. I will ask the doctor next time I see him. Still slightly worried about tolerance and dependence but I suppose that is the inevitable issue with chronic pain and "as needed" painkillers. Still much rather have the pills than not - suppose I will just need to find a way of ensuring I don't take them too often. Hmmm...

Cool, sounds like you are really on to it. Thats about how much I use zopiclone/lorazepam - 3 times a week at the most. And usually half a zopiclone works for me. Have you tried slow release DHC? I think almost all prescription opiates have a slow release formulation option.

I've been going for long walks every day for the past month and its made a huge difference to my pain. (at least I think its the exercise!)
Im also waiting to see a pain psychologist. While opiates work great for pain, there are a lot of other options
 
StretchOutandWait: I feel your concerns re: dependance/tolerance, however that codeine with such a short half-life and generally being the dinosaur of the oral pain meds, lacks in efficacy for a chronic pain patient and your need to go up as you did comes as absoloutely no surprise.
a longer acting opiate medication and/or an extended release medication is the logical answer for you. greater efficacy of analgesia, longer half-life will translate into taking fewer pills at lower doses. the feeling of euphoria will disappear quickly, but the important aspect: the analgesia, will not. Just be responsible and don't get greedy. good luck. I havent really said anything too profound, but hope it helps.
 
To All:

I made a thread in the BDD open forum but received a lackluster response. I'll perhaps rephrase my question.

The new year has reset my insurance deductible, and my 15mg Opana ER 3x/day has become too expensive for the time being. I've been on Opana for less than a year and have worked up to my current dose, which has probably run it's course as a standalone offense against my pain as I really don't use an IR med. If I were to keep it that way, I'd prolly be going up in the Opana dose.

Anyway, anyone have any recommendation for a cheaper ER med? I guess anyone with experience as to the full retail cost of Opana would be helpful. Im currently checking into the patient assitance program but doubt Im eligible.

So, the most obvious answer is going to MSContin generic as its the big cheapo med. If I did end up there, would say 60mg BID be the place to start?
Anyone here switched from Opana to something else, like MSCOntin?
Im thinking of digging deep into the budget to maintain Oxymorphone as an IR med if my doc would go for it seeing as how say the MSContin even at the "comparable" dose of 60mg BID prolly isn't going to cut it. The Oxymorphone has just been an awesome med for me, so adding an IR med to my new regime as the "opana" IR would be solid way to keep it in my attempt at a pain free lifestyle.

That said, id also consider hydromorph as my new IR med if someone could comment on its efficacy vs Oxymorph, assuming it were more affordable. Ive yet to try it in any form.

Hope my slew of conjoined questions make sense.
 
To All:

I made a thread in the BDD open forum but received a lackluster response. I'll perhaps rephrase my question.

The new year has reset my insurance deductible, and my 15mg Opana ER 3x/day has become too expensive for the time being. I've been on Opana for less than a year and have worked up to my current dose, which has probably run it's course as a standalone offense against my pain as I really don't use an IR med. If I were to keep it that way, I'd prolly be going up in the Opana dose.

Anyway, anyone have any recommendation for a cheaper ER med? I guess anyone with experience as to the full retail cost of Opana would be helpful. Im currently checking into the patient assitance program but doubt Im eligible.

So, the most obvious answer is going to MSContin generic as its the big cheapo med. If I did end up there, would say 60mg BID be the place to start?
Anyone here switched from Opana to something else, like MSCOntin?
Im thinking of digging deep into the budget to maintain Oxymorphone as an IR med if my doc would go for it seeing as how say the MSContin even at the "comparable" dose of 60mg BID prolly isn't going to cut it. The Oxymorphone has just been an awesome med for me, so adding an IR med to my new regime as the "opana" IR would be solid way to keep it in my attempt at a pain free lifestyle.

That said, id also consider hydromorph as my new IR med if someone could comment on its efficacy vs Oxymorph, assuming it were more affordable. Ive yet to try it in any form.

Hope my slew of conjoined questions make sense.

I'll just say that if he suggests Exalgo (time realesed hydromorphone) it wont even come close in mg's for pain relief. I just remembered, its expensive as F' also...
 
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Ok so tip #1, stay away from Exalgo. Too expensive and won't compete pound for pound. If I'm going to be stuck with something that isn't as efficacious, it better be cheap.
 
My dilemma. I've been w PM since my 2nd and last low bk surgery. 10 yrs later now I thought I found an outstanding pm Dr. Been w him 2+ yrs now..
THE SITUATION : My last appt I got my scripts. 90 60 mg er morphine & 120 oxycodone 30 mg. Here in Fl every place was out of the oxy. 8 days later I saw my Dr to switch it. I got 1204 mg dilaudid 1 every 6 hrs? WTF?? I went to an rx conversion site. Should be getting 10.2 D's. Every 4 hrs to be equivalent. Actually be 8 mg tabs.
So how do I address this with him?
 
My dilemma. I've been w PM since my 2nd and last low bk surgery. 10 yrs later now I thought I found an outstanding pm Dr. Been w him 2+ yrs now..
THE SITUATION : My last appt I got my scripts. 90 60 mg er morphine & 120 oxycodone 30 mg. Here in Fl every place was out of the oxy. 8 days later I saw my Dr to switch it. I got 1204 mg dilaudid 1 every 6 hrs? WTF?? I went to an rx conversion site. Should be getting 10.2 D's. Every 4 hrs to be equivalent. Actually be 8 mg tabs.
So how do I address this with him?

I know exactly what your talking about, I was on Oxys and OC after my surgery in Miami, one day my dad and I called about 15 pharmacies, and drove from Miami all the way to OverTown trying to find a pharmacy that had them! NO one did. We had to go back to the Dr, wait 3 fn hours, because he was always behind, just so he could call one of his pharmacy buddies he sends all his patients to, but they got the meds for me. We just had to drive 1/2 hr out to one of the keys to get it! They told us there was a limit on the raw materials being brought into the country that produces the meds. Fn bullshit. But eventually he switched me to the Dilaudid, 4mg 6x p/d.

But what did you get switched to, 12 4mg dilaudids? Cause 1204 makes no sense. Can you clarify that a little, what should you be getting? 10 mg pills? They actually don't make 10 mg dilaudids, not that I've ever seen...8mg is the highest they go.

But you can try telling your doctor these aren't covering the pain, or they don't last as long and you need something more frequently. Maybe even ask him how he's doing the conversion and explain to him how you came up with the mgs you should be getting. Though I'm not sure if that would work, because he could be taking things like your taking the Morphine too into consideration, which he probably is.
 
To All:

This is my first post here, so I apologize if I am in the wrong section (and would gladly accept redirection if offered). I am in pain management for 2 disc herniations (L4-L5 and L5-S1). My injury occurred exactly one year ago (Jan. 21, 2011) and I've been on some variety of opiate since then, and have thankfully evaded surgery which I hear only makes things worse. I had been on hydrocodone 7.5/325 (6-8/day) from my Internist, but since my move to Colorado, I am now in Pain Management and currently on the generic Watson for Percocet 10mg/325 4x per day. I usually take 1.5 pills 3x per day so I'm ingesting 45 mg of oxycodone plus 2 350 mg Somas daily. My receptors are completely uptaked to this dosage, so its not like I get a recreational buzz or anything. Honestly, it just helps with my pain and discomfort, but I know that I am tolerant (and hence, probably addicted in some way) to oxycodone. Anyway, I just had my second epidural steroid injection, and things seem to be going a quite a bit better with my back. My sciatica is gone (fingers crossed!) and I'm mostly just getting this weak/burning sensation in the middle of the night after my medication dose wears off. I actually wonder if it is something that I've once seen referred to as "reflex pain" which happens in response to using opiates for a lengthy period of time, i.e. at least one year. I'd like to taper off of these drugs, and since I live in a medical marijuana state, go back to that since I have a license. [My PM doc made me choose one or the other at the beginning of our relationship, and I haven't used mmj once since being under his care.] So, four questions.

1) Given that I've been on some variety of opiate for a year now, and I know how painful cold turkey is, would a slow or a fast taper off of my Percocet be best? I have a feeling that slow would work better for me, but perhaps that is the devil of addiction speaking from the back of my mind.

2) Has anyone had withdrawals from Soma? I've been told by my regular physician that it is addictive, but he seems to think that everything is.

3) And, this is for someone in a medical marijuana state (of which thankfully there are quite a few now). Do you think it advisable for me to approach my doc about the taper and ask if it is ok, as long as I plan on weaning completely off, to use mmj to moderate some of my withdrawal symptoms? I also have some Xanax .5 mg pills. And, I've only taken about 60 over the past 6 months by breaking them in half. I'm hoping the mmj will help at night for sleep and the xanax will help during the day for my anxiety during the worst few days of withdrawal.

4) Lastly, and this may be so specific there are no answers out there. Would it be out of line to ask my doctor if after trying to manage with mmj and the success of the injection that I could go back on the Percs if I once again found myself in a moderate-severe pain situation. I find that the mmj works wonders for mild pain, but does little to nothing for moderate to severe pain. At the very least, this will give me a vacation from the pain meds because I'm not liking how the tolerance is building, and I really do think that controlled (non-smoked) mmj is the safer long term option. I'd just like to know that if things move into the 'acute' phase (or even a moderate to severe chronic pain situation) again that I have the option of going back to what has worked for so long, at least until another steroid injection works (which I won't be able to have for another 6 mo- 1 year).

Sorry if this has been overly long. Lots of questions. Can't wait to hear a response from some of you.
 
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