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Opioids **The Oxycodone Mega Thread.** - Can't find your thread? Its in here.

how much oc is to much

First time poster long time reader. I wondering how much oc intranasal is to much. And no I'm not talking about the tolerance aspect of it obviously only you can answer that question because everyone is different. More I'm wondering how much is over kill for your sinuses and not being absorbed and lost into your stomach or lugs. Take me for example I can snort 200 mg and I'm starting to think must of it is being lost into my stomach(I hope and not my lugs) and I guess what I'm wondering is if I should just stop taking them intranasal begin taking them orally and only snort a small amount to get the rush. What do you guys think? Sorry if this has already been discussed I looked but maybe I'm just to relaxed right now and missed it or something.
 
First time poster long time reader. I wondering how much oc intranasal is to much. And no I'm not talking about the tolerance aspect of it obviously only you can answer that question because everyone is different. More I'm wondering how much is over kill for your sinuses and not being absorbed and lost into your stomach or lugs. Take me for example I can snort 200 mg and I'm starting to think must of it is being lost into my stomach(I hope and not my lugs) and I guess what I'm wondering is if I should just stop taking them intranasal begin taking them orally and only snort a small amount to get the rush. What do you guys think? Sorry if this has already been discussed I looked but maybe I'm just to relaxed right now and missed it or something.


Yes you can IMO. Im assuming were not talking about 5mg pills. I wouldnt inhale it all in one big thick line, I would inhale one line after another, one pill as one or two or whatever lines, alternating nostrils, the majority will be absorbed intranasally IMO. With large amounts and larger lines just try to keep it all in the nasal cavity where it can be absorbed, sometimes this means easing up on the inhale, when you feel or taste the powder making it to the throat or mouth you probably need to ease up on the inhale. Large amounts may take getting used to, as with most things, I believe you get better with experience. I believe doing it all at once gives you a stronger rush, and anything that makes it past the nasal cavity will be absorbed anyways.

Some people when it comes to large amounts prefer to do a line or two every 10 minutes or so until the amounts done.

If you more of the rush you get from snorting, then I would snort it all.
 
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^ Yeah for sure the 5mg pills are usless for intranasal use. I tried snorting like 60 mg one time with the 5s it was so much powder and it burned so bad I don't think I even got a high I was just in pain. But what I'm talking about is the 80s I'll take two and a halve of those and it seems like I just can't get the rush I used to. And I am used to snorting softly and slowly due to the fact I'm scriipted opana ers and you have to take small lines and get them right up in the sinus cavity for them to absorb well and give you there strong rush. I'm afraid that maybe my tolerance has just gotten to high and I'm only going to be able to take oxy via oral.
 
^ Yeah for sure the 5mg pills are usless for intranasal use. I tried snorting like 60 mg one time with the 5s it was so much powder and it burned so bad I don't think I even got a high I was just in pain. But what I'm talking about is the 80s I'll take two and a halve of those and it seems like I just can't get the rush I used to. And I am used to snorting softly and slowly due to the fact I'm scriipted opana ers and you have to take small lines and get them right up in the sinus cavity for them to absorb well and give you there strong rush. I'm afraid that maybe my tolerance has just gotten to high and I'm only going to be able to take oxy via oral.

I use Opana as well. Problem with Opana is once you use it, its very hard to go back to oxycodone.

I think you will be fine doing that. One thing you may want to do is lay down afterwards for 15 minutes to avoid any runny nose, and so any excess is absorbed orally. I prefer laying down afterwards anyways.
 
I don't think it's a waste because when you do a line that is too big, the rest of the powder that comes in your throat will drip down and gets absorbed. I always snort a tiny amount of water after a few lines which does help a lot.

Snorting technique is important as well tho, I have been practising with Ritalin for 5+ years now ;) so I had plenty of pills to waste before I got experienced enough. :)

I'm not planning to touch the 80's yet, I will get there eventually with my chronic back pain I guess :| :p

-- Peace o/
 
It's true opana is just so much more powerful than oxy its just never been the same since I started using it. The euphoric body high it gives you is just so different it may be just me trying to compare apples to oranges. Truth be told I can't feel much anymore with out adding a line of opana with it. Sorry if this isn't making any sense I just railed a opana 40 and ate 3 roxi 30s and 1mg kpin.
 
guys ive been smoking MANY oc everyday for the past month on tin foil... how horrible is this for my body?
 
Why smoke them? With the oral BA% so high, it's silly. Thats something Ill never understand.

In regards to your question: It's not good at all, you have all the fillers/binders/junk going into your lungs.
 
Yep, it makes no sense to me to smoke pills. I cant figure out why anybody would start using them in that way. Just knowing the oxycodone wasted during the process would make me use another way. Crush em and blow em, thats my opinion.
 
I just don't understand the whole:

"I put things into my [veins, lungs, nose, butt, mouth] that aren't supposed to go there even though everyone my entire life has told me this is bad for me. Is this bad for me?"
 
I just don't understand the whole:

"I put things into my [veins, lungs, nose, butt, mouth] that aren't supposed to go there even though everyone my entire life has told me this is bad for me. Is this bad for me?"

What is it you dont understand? People do things that are unhealthy even though they have been warned that these activities are unhealthy.

Based on your screen-name, Im assuming you are on suboxone and thus have likely found yourself in a situation where you went too far with opioids and turned to suboxone for help. So is it really so hard for you to imagine that people will engage in unhealthy activities?-DG
 
Oxycontin Mega Thread v1.0 (closed;no posting)

Originally written by Lacey K

We see so many threads about this on here so I thought maybe a informative 'Whats the real deal' thread might be helpful. If it aint, mods do what it do. :) If a mod can think of a clearer or better title it would be cool tho, since I cant come up with a good one.

What Happened to Generic OxyContin? What is the update on the situation now?

In this thread I put the current status of all the generics at the end, so if that is what you are here for just scroll down. For the people who are confused about how it all happened and all that stuff , read on....Once Upon a Time, Purdue Pharma had a patent on OxyContin, and there was no generic pills. In 2005, the US court of appeals decided that Purdues patents on the pill were partially unenforcable, since they had lied and claimed that there was a special mechanism delivering the medication , which was un true. They said Purdue was illegally blocking manufacture of generics. This is when the whole circus started. Endo, Impax (Now distributed through Dava Pharma), Watson/IVAX, and TEVA were the main generic brands. Im sure there might have been other ones but its hard to get that info.

-Endos had the E7XX stamp on them. (E702, E703, E705, and E710 for 10 20 40 and 80 respectively.)

-Impax had the G16X stamp on them. (G161, G162, G163, G164 for 10 20 40 and 80. These were the white 10s, pink 20s, purple 40s, and orange 80s. They were the only generics AFAIK that did not have the usual oxy colors of 10/white 20/pink 40/yellow and 80/green which is why I mentioned it.)

-TEVA was the first generic manufacturer and makes the "football" pills, ( Stamped with 93 on one side, and 24, 31, 32, 33 for 10 20 40 and 80.)

-Purdue (ABG's) manufactured the ABG stamp pills, with IVAX pharma originally bein the distributors, and then later Watson earned exclusive rights to be the marketers of the pills. Purdue made the pills and sold them to these 2 companies, with purdue makin a share of the profits from the distributing companies. (These were the most familiar stamped with ABG and 10 20 40 and 80)

-Purdue makes the brand name of course, and yall know what that looks like but just for continuity sake they say OC 10 20 40 and 80. (FYI, Purdue reversed the decision to stop making 160mg OC's and they are listed on the Purdue website as being a current product. Those 160's got stopped for a while after 2001 when the crazy OC publicity really started goin but are back in business now, tho I doubt any of us will see them, since they only get prescribed to 1% of OC patients.)

This went on for a while with all these pills bein available. Then, in 2006, Purdue kept appealing and eventually scared all the generic companies into shutting down, or coming to some kind of agreement to work on in the future.

Endo's were the first to go, and Purdue came to agreement with them that by December 31, 2006, they would stop selling all generic oxys. To read the whole official document (NSFW to save space and eye strain):
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Purdue and Endo have now settled the patent infringement lawsuit between them that was pending in the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York. According to the agreement, Endo will stop selling infringing versions of OxyContin by the end of 2006. In exchange, Purdue Pharma will not pursue damages against Endo for Endo's past infringement of its OxyContin patents.Under the terms of the settlement agreement, Endo will no longer dispute that the Purdue Pharma OxyContin patents are valid, enforceable and infringed by Endo's extended-release oxycodone product. The parties also have agreed to propose to the Court a consent judgment holding that Endo is infringing the Purdue patents and prohibiting Endo from infringing sales after December 31, 2006.

Impax was next, but they didnt get totally shut down like Endo. They agreed that by June 14 of 2007 they would stop marketing their generic OCs, with a possible deal in the future that might allow them to continue making and marketing the pills. They had to stop by that date but may be still making pills, I could not find info about that situation I dont think they set the conditions yet. The whole announcement:
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Purdue Pharma announced, on April 2, 2007, that it had reached a settlement ending the OxyContin® suit with IMPAX Laboratories. Under the terms of the settlement agreement, IMPAX acknowledges the validity and enforceability of the OxyContin® patents and concedes that IMPAX’ extended-release oxycodone products infringe Purdue’s patents. In return, Purdue agreed to cease pursuing damages against IMPAX for past infringement. Purdue, additionally, agreed to grant a license, which allows IMPAX to continue marketing its extended-release oxycodone products through June 14, 2007 with possible continued distribution rights in the future. The settlement agreement is presently being reviewed by federal antitrust authorities before being submitted to the federal district court for consent.

TEVAS are still in production right now, but must stop at a later date that they did not determine yet. Official statement:
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Purdue Pharma L.P. of Stamford, Connecticut and Teva Pharmaceuticals USA, Inc. of North Wales, Pennsylvania have agreed to end their lawsuit concerning certain Purdue Pharma patents on OxyContin (oxycodone HCl controlled-release) Tablets. Under the terms of the settlement agreement, Teva will cease selling its infringing oxycodone products at a future date and Purdue Pharma will not pursue damages against Teva for past infringement. The settlement agreement is subject to certain contingencies, including review by the United States antitrust agencies and the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York.


Purdue stopped selling the generic pills they manufactured to Watson to market and sell. The Watson does not list any generic OxyContin on its product list on its site, only generic percocet. I couldnt find a official statement that they did stop , but judgin by the Watson site, and a couple listings I see that say the status of ABG is DISCONTINUED, its safe to say that there is no more ABG's that are bein manufactured.

So.....To end the question once and for all.....

PURDUE BRAND : STILL AVAILABLE
ABG BRAND : DISCONTINUED
ENDO BRAND : DISCONTINUED
IMPAX BRAND : STILL AVAILABLE, with license to produce limited amounts thru Dava Pharma until at least January 28, 2008, or until it sells its quota, whichever is first.
TEVA BRAND : DISCONTINUED
MALLINCKRODT BRAND : STILL AVAILABLE


Now, dont get confused and think that some of these pills are bein made just because there is still some of the generic G-stamp and ABG stamp pills goin around. since the pharmacies were stocked with these and they take a while to sell out ,some people still have these. but they aint bein made no more, so once these stashes are gone, that is is. Endo pills stayed around til about New Years but I aint seen one since.I hope that can help some people who always got questions about how the whole generic oxycontin lawsuit and result came about. That is all the history that I know on the situation, and its up to date right now. If it changes in the future I will try and update it.

UPDATE; Edited November 27, to include new info on Impax generics thanks to allovers research. see availability chart
 
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Pictures of Oxycontin/Oxycodone IR Pills by Brand

Originally Compiled by sixpartseven

PURDUE BRAND NAME - All Doses AVAILABILITY: AVAILABLE - Does Not Gel

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TEVA GENERICS - 10mg, 20mg, 40mg, 80mg AVAILABILITY: DISCONTINUED - Gels When Wet

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ENDO GENERICS - 10mg, 20mg, 40mg, 80mg AVAILABILITY: DISCONTINUED - Gels When Wet

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IMPAX GENERICS - 20mg, 80mg AVAILABILITY: DISCONTINUED (as of 01/28/2008.) - Gels When Wet

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ABG GENERICS - 10mg, 20mg, 40mg, 80mg AVAILABILITY: DISCONTINUED - Does Not Gel

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MALLINCKRODT GENERICS - 10mg, 20mg, 40mg, 80mg AVAILABILITY: AVAILABLE - Gels When Wet (Severely)
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Still need pictures of 10mg and 40mg Impax brand. If anyone knows where they can be found, PM me (sixpartseven).
 
Oxycodone/Oxycontin FAQ by sixpartseven

This FAQ is going to cover a few of the most basic questions asked in OD. Any other questions can be posted in this thread, and possibly edited in to this FAQ.

Whats the difference between Oxycontin and Oxycodone?
Oxycontin is a brand name of the extended release formula of Oxycodone, which is an opiate analgesic.

Whats the best route of administration for Oxycodone?
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=266339

Even though it may seem obvious that IV would be the best ROA, its actually not, simply because IVing pills is not a good idea. The upside with Oxycodone is that its oral BA is so high, that its not a huge trade-off to take it orally rather than by IVing. You will miss out on the rush, but its debatable whether Oxycodone even has a rush. Of course its subjective, and the only way to know is to find out yourself.
Of course you can always insuffulate the Oxycodone. Its probably the most prefered method of injestion by many Bluelighters, next to oral injestion.

I want to IV it, so how do I do it?
First, know that if you are going to shoot, you can only shoot Oxycodone brand pills that DO NOT have APAP (Tylenol) in them. The ones that are acceptable to shoot are brand name and ABG brand Oxycontin, and Roxicodone or its generics.
If you are deadset on IVing it, you need to know that its not like prepping heroin. A lot is the same, but there are a few key steps that are different.
First, you need to get the wax coating off. DO NOT PUT THE PILL IN YOUR MOUTH. A lot of people like to suck the coating off, but remember that this pill is going to go inside your veins. The bacteria inside your mouth could, at the very least, make you sick if you inject them in to you. So instead, get a Q-tip, get it wet, and scrub the coating off with that.
Next, place the pill in a clean cup or spoon and crush it. Be careful to not make little pieces go flying evrywhere. Thats the worst thing in the world when half your pill goes flying across the room at 100 mph, then you have to try and find it on your white carpet.
Once its crushed up, add .8ml - 1ml of water to the powder in the spoon. Stir it up nice and good.
This is where it gets different from prepping heroin. You can heat heroin, but you do not want to heat Oxycontin. Heating any pill will cause unwanted fillers and binders to go into solution.
Filtering is the most important step. Its best to have .22 size micron filters to keep particles and bacteria out of solution, but, you should first filter the solution with cotton, because if you dont, youll have a hard time getting the solution to go through the micron filters.
Once the solution has been filtered, you are ready to inject it the same way you would anything else

How much do I need to get high?
This is a question no one can really answer except for yourself. There is one thing that can help you figure it out though, and thats the opiate dose converter:
http://www.globalrph.com/narcotic.cgi
Its not an exact method, but it will give you a good idea.

Dosage Scale from Erowid.org

 
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Yeah people do things that make them feel better yet damage their bodies. I had a friend that did so much oxy that it constipated him to the point of having to go to the hospital to get the shit removed from his ass... that's dedication!
 
I have a really low tolerance to opiates. I started doing OC's a few months ago, and kept it to a once or twice a month thing. Last time I had it was a month and a half ago.

My buddy wants to give me a free 80 and I want to do it tomorrow. I know it depends on a few things but, does anyone know approximately how long oxy stays in your system? I don't plan on doing it again anytime soon after tomorrow. Also, are there ways you can "flush" it out of your system faster? I know with weed you have to drink plenty of water, exercise/sweat, etc.

I apologize if this has been answered before.

Thanks.

It is prolly too late but if you have really low opiate tolerance then taking a whole 80 will likely make you sick and could potentially kill you in the right circumstances. You should really not do more than 1/4 of it crushed 1/2 tops. 1/2 crushed will be really intense. You can get a pretty good high with no tolerance taking half of an 80 being careful not to break it too much(leave it as whole as possible). If you did already take the whole 80 I hope you are ok.
 
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It'll last in your system 2 days tops. But yeah do NOT do the full 80. Do 20mg, wait an hour and a half. Do another 10-20 as needed.

But yeah drink lots of water and work out the next day. Oxy stays in your system 2-3 days MAX with a single dose. With enough fluids, probably <24 hours.
 
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